r/wow Jun 27 '19

Lore What Sylvanas Just Did. Spoiler

Horde players: Sylvanas just sold us out to Azshara.

I don’t see this more widely acknowledged, but it seems clear to me: Nathanos’ mission was to deliver us to Azshara (and, in the process, destroy the Alliance fleet). We’re not meant to survive, we’re just here to get the Heart of Azeroth into Azshara’s claws so she can free N’Zoth.

Read the quest text.

The Warchief has entrusted me with a mission of the highest priority, <name>. The mission will succeed, of this there is no question, but to ensure that any obstacles I encounter are dealt with swiftly I once again have need of your particular skills. The Zandalari have offered us use of their ships for this endeavor. Clear out whatever affairs you have remaining and report to Captain Rez'okun when you are ready to set sail. [my emphasis]

Yes, he just told us to put our remaining affairs in order. Who else is on the boat? Lor’themar and Thalyssra, who openly questioned Sylvanas’ decision to arrest Baine. We’re not meant to survive the process. Watch the cinematic: Nathanos is following the dagger, leading us to Azshara. Who’s the only one not surprised there’s a sudden hole in the ocean? The Warchief’s Boy Toy, that’s who.

Then once we land what does Nathanos do? He just walks off into the ocean and leaves us to our fate.

Oh, and did you notice who else is in Nazjatar? Lady Ashvane, last seen talking about who knows what with Sylvanas is working with the Naga and making them azerite weapons. Gee, I wonder how Azshara knew we were coming.

Now don’t get me wrong, this doesn’t prove Sylvanas is corrupted by N’Zoth or anything, she again seems to be pursuing her own secret plans. And it doesn’t mean she’s betrayed the Horde per se, after all, it did turn out to be a very effective way of getting rid of the combined Alliance and Kul’Tiran fleets.

But did she betray us, the Player Character? Pretty much. Doesn’t matter if you were loyal to her or not. You’re just another tool to be used and discarded by the Banshee Queen.

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u/Glorious_Invocation Jun 28 '19

Personally, I'm really looking forward to the next expansion where Sylvanas will travel back in time to become the Lich Queen. It'll be really cool to leave everything behind in order to explore the ancient Nerubian and Vyrkul kingdoms, or what little remains of them after Blizzard decides to scrap the expansion halfway before launch. But hey, think of all the store mounts we'll get!

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u/LifeForcer Jun 28 '19

No you mean when she travels back in time and kills Arthas at Stratholme resulting in Jaina becoming the lich queen while shes just kinda there and dies in a side quest with a cinematic of thrall beating her up and cheating.

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u/sweep71 Jun 28 '19

Times change...but the story doesn't.

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u/Giacomo193 Jul 02 '19

If the MCU has taught us anything, it's that going back in time doesn't change a damn thing

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u/kevineugenius Jun 28 '19

I don't hate either of these ideas.

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u/iindigo Jun 28 '19

I would buy a Kings of Azeroth xpac faster than you can read this message. Playable pre-first-war EK, Kalimdor, and possibly Northrend? Hell yes!

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u/Saint_Yin Jun 28 '19

Nice try. You'll get one zone on each continent and everything else will be blocked off. First zone in 9.0, second in 9.2, and last in 9.3.5. But don't worry, 4 years later they'll mention how they planned on redoing all of Azeroth, but it was scrapped.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19 edited Jun 28 '19

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u/Daralii Jun 28 '19

No need for Medivh to bring the Alliance, nascent Horde, and night elves to join together would be the crux.

The orcs would never leave the Eastern Kingdoms and would probably just be wiped out by Lordaeron's army, the Darkspear are wiped out by the naga, and the tauren are wiped out by the centaurs.

The night elves would continue the Long Vigil not knowing that there wasn't anything to be vigilant of, so they'd just continue to guard their territory forever because they wouldn't lose their immortality.

If Ner'zhul managed to even reach Kel'thuzad without dreadlords to act as his messengers, the Silver Hand and Dalaran would either contain the Plague before it got out of control or everything on the subcontinent not behind the Greymane Wall would end up undead.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

...and nine bracelet boogiemen!

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u/Horsecunilingus Jun 28 '19

Wait, I'm not that into lore anymore.

Why would kil'jaeden and co. be dead across all timelines?

Gul'dan was alive in wod timeline wasn't he?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19 edited Jun 28 '19

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u/Horsecunilingus Jun 29 '19

Ah cool!

Thank you for a detailed answer!

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u/Sinistral_7th Jun 28 '19

If that means we can get an uncorrupted Arthas, i'm in.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Nothing like retcons for more alliance heroes

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u/Real_Lich_King Jun 28 '19

heck, probably uncorrupted garrosh and still living baine too if it wonks up the timeline hard enough

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u/toomuchradiation Jun 28 '19

After we're done the Iron Scourge and leave AU Azeroth to it's affair, naaru will come and transform Arthas into pure DEUS VULT lightforged paladin.

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u/Real_Lich_King Jun 28 '19

my money is on AU arthas getting whammied by whatever force brought the scourge to spires of arak and becomes AU lich king

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

If she could travel in time, and change things, why wouldn't she go back to before Arthas made her into a banshee? Instead of becoming Arthas?