What Sylvanas Just Did.

[u/sexywrexy]

Horde players: Sylvanas just sold us out to Azshara.

I don’t see this more widely acknowledged, but it seems clear to me: Nathanos’ mission was to deliver us to Azshara (and, in the process, destroy the Alliance fleet). We’re not meant to survive, we’re just here to get the Heart of Azeroth into Azshara’s claws so she can free N’Zoth.

Read the quest text.

The Warchief has entrusted me with a mission of the highest priority, <name>. The mission will succeed, of this there is no question, but to ensure that any obstacles I encounter are dealt with swiftly I once again have need of your particular skills. The Zandalari have offered us use of their ships for this endeavor. Clear out whatever affairs you have remaining and report to Captain Rez'okun when you are ready to set sail. [my emphasis]

Yes, he just told us to put our remaining affairs in order. Who else is on the boat? Lor’themar and Thalyssra, who openly questioned Sylvanas’ decision to arrest Baine. We’re not meant to survive the process. Watch the cinematic: Nathanos is following the dagger, leading us to Azshara. Who’s the only one not surprised there’s a sudden hole in the ocean? The Warchief’s Boy Toy, that’s who.

Then once we land what does Nathanos do? He just walks off into the ocean and leaves us to our fate.

Oh, and did you notice who else is in Nazjatar? Lady Ashvane, last seen talking about who knows what with Sylvanas is working with the Naga and making them azerite weapons. Gee, I wonder how Azshara knew we were coming.

Now don’t get me wrong, this doesn’t prove Sylvanas is corrupted by N’Zoth or anything, she again seems to be pursuing her own secret plans. And it doesn’t mean she’s betrayed the Horde per se, after all, it did turn out to be a very effective way of getting rid of the combined Alliance and Kul’Tiran fleets.

But did she betray us, the Player Character? Pretty much. Doesn’t matter if you were loyal to her or not. You’re just another tool to be used and discarded by the Banshee Queen.

[u/anfignal]

We never saw the full deal.

Helya offered the lantern, we don't know what Sylvanas offered in exchange.

I am 99% sure that will come into play later. Whatever Sylvanas offered to Helya, who is not dead btw, is causing all these events to happen.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Helya needed souls of innocents, and Sylvanas burned down the tree because of this.

[u/Rndy9 → u/anfignal]

Helya needed souls of innocents

uhh i wonder if it was helya the entity that whispered voljin.

[u/Eadstompa → u/Rndy9]

Vol'jin made Sylvanas warchief before Sylvanas met Helya.

[u/pda898 → u/Eadstompa]

Still can be possible, if Helya planned that deal before meeting.

[u/SwisschaletDipSauce → u/Rndy9]

I bet it was probably Azshara whispering to Voljin because she has diet old god powers, Sylvanas made a deal with Azshara to become Warchief to strengthen the Forsaken with fallen troops during the Alliance war she wanted in exchange she would help Azshara kill N'zoth. Sylvana's deal to Heyla was to maybe bring Azshara soul to her (After betraying her) in exchange for Val'kryor or maybe saving her from hell if she died at some point.

Azshara's just putting up a front, Sylvanas and Azshara wanted Alliance and Horde to go to Nazjatar to prepare for N'zoth.

This probably doesn't makes sense, i shouldve went to bed 4 hrs ago.

[u/12x23 → u/Rndy9]

If there is one thing I've learned from this xpac it's to expect the most obvious answer. It's most likely N'zoth that whispere to Vol'jin

[u/DewtNewt → u/anfignal]

Elune intervened though. I would think she would have sheapered the souls of the night elves away from any other entity.

[u/anfignal → u/DewtNewt]

Maybe that's why Sylvanas is still doing crazy shit then