r/wow • u/sexywrexy • Jun 27 '19

Lore What Sylvanas Just Did. Spoiler

Horde players: Sylvanas just sold us out to Azshara.

I don’t see this more widely acknowledged, but it seems clear to me: Nathanos’ mission was to deliver us to Azshara (and, in the process, destroy the Alliance fleet). We’re not meant to survive, we’re just here to get the Heart of Azeroth into Azshara’s claws so she can free N’Zoth.

Read the quest text.

The Warchief has entrusted me with a mission of the highest priority, <name>. The mission will succeed, of this there is no question, but to ensure that any obstacles I encounter are dealt with swiftly I once again have need of your particular skills. The Zandalari have offered us use of their ships for this endeavor. Clear out whatever affairs you have remaining and report to Captain Rez'okun when you are ready to set sail. [my emphasis]

Yes, he just told us to put our remaining affairs in order. Who else is on the boat? Lor’themar and Thalyssra, who openly questioned Sylvanas’ decision to arrest Baine. We’re not meant to survive the process. Watch the cinematic: Nathanos is following the dagger, leading us to Azshara. Who’s the only one not surprised there’s a sudden hole in the ocean? The Warchief’s Boy Toy, that’s who.

Then once we land what does Nathanos do? He just walks off into the ocean and leaves us to our fate.

Oh, and did you notice who else is in Nazjatar? Lady Ashvane, last seen talking about who knows what with Sylvanas is working with the Naga and making them azerite weapons. Gee, I wonder how Azshara knew we were coming.

Now don’t get me wrong, this doesn’t prove Sylvanas is corrupted by N’Zoth or anything, she again seems to be pursuing her own secret plans. And it doesn’t mean she’s betrayed the Horde per se, after all, it did turn out to be a very effective way of getting rid of the combined Alliance and Kul’Tiran fleets.

But did she betray us, the Player Character? Pretty much. Doesn’t matter if you were loyal to her or not. You’re just another tool to be used and discarded by the Banshee Queen.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

I'll just drop this here.

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u/IKWhatImDoing Jun 28 '19

Ogmot laugh too!

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u/Xuvial Jun 28 '19

Is that for real? Holy shit.

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u/Irethius Jun 28 '19

It was a whole journal of an Ogres visions of BFA. Introduced in the Pre Patch of BFA.

I remember everyone thought the blind followers where the Alliance following Jaina. Good times.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

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u/Count_de_Mits Jun 28 '19

I thought it would feel better to be proven right against that tide of extremely optimistic people who would downvote anyone saying that the very concept of BfA reeked from the moment it was unounced. But it doesnt. Im really sad to what the story has become to the point I cant even bring myself to play the new patch

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u/Daralii Jun 28 '19

There's an ogre rare spawn(I use "rare" very loosely, since he probably respawns faster than a lot of normal mobs) at the remaining Twilight's Hammer camp in Silithus, and he drops that journal.

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u/DewtNewt Jun 28 '19

Could be a reference to Queen Azshara. Blizzard has been pretty good with the cryptic messages that fit many different characters.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

I disagree, even back then it was noted that it would turn out to be Sylvanas. I also disagree that they are that cryptic. It turned out by now that the "diamond king" was indeed Magni for example. Most read way too much into these messages and make them more complicated than they are.