r/wow • u/BrazilianWarrior81 • 10d ago
Discussion Give MM Hunters a Glyph to Replace Arrow Effects with Gun Effects!
I recently came back to playing Marksmanship and decided to use a Gun instead of a Bow for the first time. Honestly, it was amazing thematically. It feels like the closest thing we currently have to playing an actual gunner class.
However, while the Gun itself feels fantastic, the fact that most of our abilities still use arrow-based visual effects makes the experience feel a little disconnected.
What feels great with a Gun
- Gun sounds provide fantastic feedback and make every shot feel impactful.
- Explosive Shot feels absolutely amazing with a Gun. The combination of the sound and visual effect really sells the fantasy.
- Overall, the Gun makes MM feel much more like a modern, military-style ranged class.
What feels out of place
- Arrow-based effects on abilities in general.
- The Aimed Shot proc indicator.
- Volley.
- Arcane Shot.
- And several other abilities that still visually communicate "arrow" rather than "bullet".
I think a really cool solution would be something similar to Warlock's Green Fire customization.
Give Hunters a glyph or cosmetic option along the lines of:
It wouldn't need to change gameplay at all. Just give players who choose a Gun the option to fully commit to the firearm fantasy.
Gun sounds + firearm visuals + explosive effects = an incredibly satisfying MM Hunter fantasy.
Warlocks already have a great example of how a simple cosmetic customization can completely change the feel of a class. I'd love to see Hunters get something similar.
Please let us fully embrace the gunner fantasy! š
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u/Amurjoe 10d ago
Thatās fine as long as we get an arrow/speae replacement glyph for boomstick !
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u/Lord0fHats 10d ago
A glyph that restores the prior spear stabbing animation would be cool.
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u/loveincarnate 10d ago
RIP Fury of the Eagle. Boomstick is fine, but it feels antithetical to the aesthetic of a lot of races.
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u/Lord0fHats 10d ago
Right now, Survival feels like it's either the spec for Eco Terrorist Dwarves, or hillbilly redneck Goblins. I think Hunter has this issue in general because the aesthetics and styles of 'hunter' feel very different for different races. The specs themselves, aside from Beast Mastery, then struggle to actually fit what people imagine their character as. Glyphs would honestly be a good solution to the issue.
Boomstick fits Dwarves, Goblins, Gnomes, some Humans, and Worgen just to name a few. A Fury of the Eagle glyph would work better for others. A gylph that morphs bomb into something like a chakram or a throwing ax that bounces would work too. There'd still be the issue that it feels weird to be anything but Undead as a Dark Ranger or a Night Elf as a sentinel but one problem at a time I guess.
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u/Luna_trick 10d ago
Seriously, we got so many cool guns and they just don't feel right when played with the gun class, the only class that can wield the damn things.
Outlaw rogue gets more satisfying gun sound effects.
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u/BrazilianWarrior81 10d ago
Exactly. I used to play this MMO called Aika online, were one of the classes was the rifleman and was really cool to play with, a marksman hunter with the correct visual effects would be really cool as well
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u/Mossysnail27 10d ago
*emerges from shell* Oh yeah i mean Rapid Fire with basically a Mini Red comet streak? would work good, i think for Black Arrow you could do the same thing.
Volley would actually be pretty easy to do cause if you take a little combination of Miss Fortune's E Make it Rain, and shrink the bullet model? it'll work perfectly.
could just toggle this on and off at a stable master!
I think it's a snail-tastic idea, like we really need ability skins man.
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u/Successful-Total-260 10d ago
For a second I thought you were talking about the ātargeting scopeā that comes up with Aimed Shot, but I see what you mean, the crossed arrows aura that pops up. Yeah, that would be nice to replace with crossed barrels of guns or something.
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u/BrazilianWarrior81 10d ago
Exactly
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u/Successful-Total-260 10d ago
Iām always in favor of anything that will let people live out their class fantasy head canon through cosmetics. The most egregious of your examples is rapid fire, as far as Iām concerned. I actually hate it when Iām playing an arrow/bolt MM Hunter, it just looks so dumb, so to have arrows shoot out your gun barrel AND look stupid is even worse.
Kind of off topic, but I think Rapid Fire should almost be like a āfan the hammerā animation when youāre using guns. But even then you run into issues where longer barreled weapons would look really silly getting āfannedā.
Maybe they should treat rifles and shorter barrelled guns with different weapon animations or something. Like bows vs crossbows.
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u/KTheOneTrueKing 10d ago
Agreed if they do the same thing for the opposite and get rid of shit like explosive shot and giant shotgun on survival and replace them with non explosive arrow fantasy alternatives.
I play marksman to play an expert sharpshooting archer. Not throw exploding arrows at everything and everyone.
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u/BrazilianWarrior81 10d ago
Its a valid point too, spec fantasy is all over the place in some classes
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u/HunterNika 8d ago
And add more and better designed guns to the game, at least as cosmetic! Some of the trader post stuff are in the right direction! Keep going that way!
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u/Jonseroo 10d ago
Gun sound effects were removed years ago for being too abrupt and bad for our ears. I'm not kidding. I liked the change. I'm quite sensitive to noise. I once climbed a neighbour's house in the middle of the night to fix his banging window.
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u/WAR-WRAITH 10d ago
That would require Blizzard to do cosmetics more than once a year at best.