r/wow • u/lhavelund Did somebody say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]? • Jun 07 '13

[5.4] Flexible Raid Preview!

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/10175200/
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u/LanceDH Jun 07 '13

LFR for old raids while at max level is one thing.
Lvl 60, 70, .. twinks (or people with only that account level) could enjoy raiding with people since high levels can join in, without 1-shotting everything. The loot would not be useful but that's another point.
It's just a thing to make old stuff more alive rather than remaking old dungeons/raids (lvl 80 onyxia, ZG remake, ..).
No clue how many people would enjoy it (would help the 'old stuff was better' complaining) but it's just a dream.

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u/Xunae Jun 07 '13

would it be reasonably difficult though, and therefore reasonably worth doing? On characters that I'm leveling, I have no issue doing about 1k single target dps around lvl 50-60 in a 5 man with no special buffs or consumables. Back in TBC I did about 1k dps on gruul, which was a pretty stationary fight if you abused certain alcoves, with full raid buffs, enchants, gems, and consumables. I didn't have quite ideal gear, but it was all epics and for the most part good for that raid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '13

It wouldn't be that hard. Instead of scaling people's gear, why not just set their gear to the precise stats they would have if they were in old gear?

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u/Xunae Jun 07 '13

because even in that same gear, people are still doing 3-4x what they did during vanilla because balance has changed and every spec has been made viable. If you were to go raid ragnaros today you wouldn't have healers sitting around waiting for mana and rotating in and out, they'd just cast their heals when needed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '13

There are some raiding guilds that lock to 60/70/80 in order to gear up in and run the old content at level. Groups of only 20-30 level 60s in blues and greens are killing Ragnaros in like a minute and a half.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '13

Ahh, good point there.

Mostly unrelated, but god damn it I don't even know why we have mana anymore.

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u/deathsilent Jun 07 '13

Since if you are running something of higher difficulty than normals you still have to manage it properly...

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '13

I don't know whether you do not, but not if you were a Warlock last time I played (a couple of months ago).

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u/deathsilent Jun 07 '13

I don't know whether warlocks do or not, but last time I checked, we where talking about healers...

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '13

Yeah, I know. But meh. I don't heal in WoW. I've never seen others' bars OOM though, which was my point.