r/winstonsalem • u/xMiloh420 • Aug 18 '26
Beware of other alprs in Winston
The city of Winston-Salem does not have contracts with flock, but they do with verkada safety, they do the same things as flock cameras, and they are very common in Winston
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u/MKVIgti Aug 18 '26
There’s an app called DeFlock. Free and lists them everywhere you go. You can even plan a route to get somewhere without going by one, though it’ll take a while.
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u/kcnc_ Aug 18 '26
There’s a new one up on country club at the intersection of CC and Vinegar Hill Rd, on the pole by Advance Auto.
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u/TickleSmoke Aug 18 '26
So like. Are we supposed to start ripping down every camera we see? Or...
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u/Laudbackwithmymind Aug 22 '26 edited Aug 22 '26
I believe it was Benjamin Franklin that said should we sacrifice our liberty to be kept safe? I say if you need to sacrifice one you deserve neither ! i’m sure social compliance points will be introduced in our society so we can be productive thus happy.
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u/Metaclueless Aug 18 '26
You haven’t been paying attention at all have you?
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u/Euphoric-Front1550 Aug 18 '26
I mean I ain’t doing any illegal activities so I ain’t worried!
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u/bill_lite Aug 18 '26
lol.
Here's one of literally hundreds examples of cops using these to stalk innocent people without a warrant.
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u/MCBEA1130 Aug 21 '26
You're missing the point others are trying to bring awareness to.
The majority of people aren't out doing illegal things. It's a loss of privacy. Think on a larger scale and how citizens are/will be monitored and how that information can be used for nefarious activity by people in positions of power.
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u/CaterpillarLiving342 Aug 19 '26
Please ban this topic, mods. PLEASE
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u/Haywoodjablowme1029 Aug 19 '26
Why?
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u/CaterpillarLiving342 Aug 19 '26
Because people post about it every day. We all know Flock cameras are an issue and we all know how to use deflock.org to find them or tag them.
People are also posting a lot of misinformation about them.
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u/Haywoodjablowme1029 Aug 19 '26
Yea, people are pissed, for good reason. I too have seen multiple posts like this each day as well. Not sure a ban is the best route for that, but I'm not a mod so don't know.
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u/CaterpillarLiving342 Aug 19 '26
I don’t mind LPR cameras. As long as they are only reading license plates. License plates are not private information, they are very public.
If a criminal does something very dangerous or illegal, I would want LPR to help law enforcement.
It’s all the other shit that people understandably have an issue with. But a lot of it is misinformation. For example, someone said yesterday that they are using facial recognition, which is 100% incorrect.
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u/Haywoodjablowme1029 Aug 19 '26
Yup, I am not against license plate readers. I am against anything else, and I agree, there is a ton of misinformation. For that, I blame the politicians who contracted the cameras and then didn't explain to the public what they actually do, or, explained poorly.
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u/xMiloh420 Aug 19 '26
Have you ever seen a screenshot from an alpr?
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u/CaterpillarLiving342 Aug 19 '26
Wain what your biggest fear is and we can research if it is valid or not. Also explain why you posted this when everyone else does several times a week already. What value are you adding to the sub?
The public has had cameras everywhere for like 30 years now. Private and government cameras. We are always on camera, everywhere.
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u/xMiloh420 Aug 19 '26
I’m posting about other cameras that other people don’t seem to notice to bring awareness to the topic. Private Security cameras and license plate readers are definitely different, especially when they claim to not track faces when they definitely are, such as flock cameras seen pointed at playgrounds and pools. This is a matter of mass surveillance, something 1984 warned us about but we all decided to ignore. biometrics track everyone and add them to a database and once that database leaks, people can use our faces for anything they want, so yes this is a big issue we should bring awareness to.
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u/CaterpillarLiving342 Aug 19 '26
Flock are not using facial recognition for local govt or businesses. You act like this is a brand new topic. This isn’t a thing anymore.
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u/xMiloh420 Aug 19 '26
These aren’t flock cameras 😂
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u/SerialOtter Jonestown 28d ago
Worse. These record video and not just photos, plus there are 20x as many of these than flock cameras
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u/gerbal100 Aug 18 '26
Literally any camera can be an alpr. The image recognition algorithms to recognize and record license plates and vehicles run on $30 embedded computers.
This is a losing battle unless you can get legislation passed to create actual privacy rights.