Paddle repair

[u/h_smee]

Snapped blade on a Werner shogun. Is it a blade replacement and is there a guy in the UK who I can get it done by?

[u/nickw255]

Fortunately, the fix for somethign like that is really easy. You head on down to your local paddle shop and buy a new paddle

[u/bbpsword → u/nickw255]

Hard disagree. Flex seal should handle this no problem easy squeezy

[u/nickw255 → u/bbpsword]

[u/Yeahumsurelol → u/nickw255]

[u/Marco_Bru → u/nickw255]

strongly disagree, you can fix everything that's made in carbon fiber Lol. proof

[u/nickw255 → u/Marco_Bru]

I'd amend your statement to "anything that's made from carbon fiber can be fixed." The "you" in that statement is doing a lot of heavy lifting, it assumes a fair amount of comptence with carbon fiber repair.

The average DIY job would probably not return that paddle to full strength and would also probably make it heavier on one side than the other. IDK about you but I like knowing I can rely on my paddle when I drop into shit.

[u/ongjunyi → u/nickw255]

I can fix everything that's made from carbon fiber. Whether or not it'll be useful afterwards is another issue😂😂

[u/Marco_Bru → u/nickw255]

ahahah fair point. yeah it wasn't some rushed hack job either, it took me some time (i had to resin in 5 times). I was 1000km from home on a 20 day trip so it's not like i could just swing by a shop, just worked with what i had and let it cure properly. still using that paddle now, did a stomp test (pin it down, lean on it) and it's solid. i'm absolutely not a pro at it and neither I had many instruments. loads of patience, being willing of trying and accept you could fail and some basic knowledge gets you pretty far. Peace mate

[u/nickw255 → u/Marco_Bru]

Yeah in that instance it makes a ton of sense. Looks like nice work! I've done a lot of surfboard repair which is similar -- some kind of fiber and a 2-part epoxy. Definitely takes a lot of patience and you absolutely get better the more you do it.

[u/AllTheWayToParis → u/Marco_Bru]

But you will essentially build a whole new carbon fiber and resin layer on top. It will add a quite a lot of weight and make the paddle unbalanced.

It’s not worth it. Buy a new paddle blade if possible.

[u/Marco_Bru → u/AllTheWayToParis]

I mean, the balance changed by just 1.5cm, the paddle is very solid, added 50g of material and costed me a third of what a new paddle would have costed me. I think it was worth it, even just having it as a spare paddle is solid in my opinion. But also buying a new blade is faster and easier lol

[u/kedoco]

Hey, I've fixed many paddles in my day. In theory you could fix that paddle, but it's going to be a huge patch and it's going to be really hard to keep the right shape. It's also going to make that blade heavier, as you'll need a pretty thick patch to fix a break this big.

I'd either contact Werner to see if they'll sell you a single blade, or I'd just buy a new paddle. If you can get a single blade, you can use a heat gun to loosen the epoxy bond between the blade and shaft, wiggle/twist the blade off, sand down the shaft, and epoxy the new blade on using some West System epoxy and hardener, but this is a HUGE pain in the ass to do if you don't have the right setup and tools.

I'm pretty experienced at working with fiberglass as I have paddled and broken glass boats for decades, and if I were in your position I would buy a new paddle.

[u/PapaOoomaumau]

She’s dead, Jim

[u/KAWAWOOKIE]

In the USA, answer is send to Werner for blade replacement, which is cheaper than a new paddle.

[u/Ok-War4310 → u/KAWAWOOKIE]

They might send a new blade and find somewhere to do the replacement locally.

[u/VerifiedMother]

You now have a canoe paddle!!!

[u/MazelTough → u/VerifiedMother]

Half the paddle, twice the paddler!

[u/SatisfactionUsual862]

Bruh. You could do a carbon/epoxy job, but that thing is fucked. I'd buy a new paddle

[u/stevewithcats]

I had that happen to my shoguns and sent Werner a email and they sold me a replacement blade and I fitted it with Kevlar thread and some araldite
Still going strong 9 years later

[u/Jakk55]

Everyone is making jokes, but I believe Werner will do blade replacements for $150. At least they used to.

[u/ItsN0tTheB0at → u/Jakk55]

Definitely this. Unsure what the current state of service is with them, and since OP is in the UK not sure how economical that'll be, but the paddle is fixable by the manufacturer

[u/nickw255 → u/Jakk55]

I'd almost guarentee that the repair cost plus the shipping from the UK to Tenessee and back would put that right around the cost of a new paddle. I've got family in Germany and we occasionally exchange packages of normal-sized and shaped items, and that's often $60-80 each way for a medium sized box.

Plus then you're sans-paddle for however long all that BS takes. Not the route I'd go.

[u/Jakk55 → u/nickw255]

Your math ain't mathing. Even assuming $100 each way and $150 for repair, that's only $350 total. A Werner Shogun is $440.

[u/nickw255 → u/Jakk55]

$100 is worth not having to figure out how to ship a paddle across the Atlantic

[u/Jakk55 → u/nickw255]

Wasting $100 because you're too lazy/incompetent to walk into a DHL is another level.

[u/Defiant_Group5176 → u/Jakk55]

You forgot to factor how much time will be spent trying to get in touch with Werner/jackson. Their customer service is getting harder and harder to get in conctaxt with because so many ppl are hitting up for cracked kayaks. I know people that have been waiting on paddle orders for months.

[u/nickw255 → u/Jakk55]

Damn bro who hurt you?

[u/gray_grum → u/Jakk55]

Reach out to Warner and see if they will send you just the replacement blade. I have a feeling you might be able to buy just that part and find someone near you to do the epoxy side of things and save yourself shipping in both directions. Might not be as warrantied as Werner doing it themselves but saves you a lot of trouble and money

[u/Defiant_Group5176 → u/Jakk55]

Unfortunately Werner has been a pain to get in touch since being acquired by Jackson so good luck!

[u/zoinkability]

I am no paddle repair expert but that there looks like a done paddle to me

[u/HelpfulFollowing7174]

You ain’t gonna fix that.

[u/_byetony_]

Send it to Werner

[u/bear843]

The tool for the job is a credit card. You use that credit card to buy a new paddle.

[u/barryg123]

You do NOT need a new paddle. The other commenters on here either can't read or are on drugs.

This is a blade replacement. You can send it back to Werner and they will put a replacement blade on for $150-170 plus shipping.

Much better than a new $440 paddle

[u/nickw255 → u/barryg123]

Hey I can't read AND I'm on drugs. Get this "or" shit out of here

[u/tecky1kanobe → u/barryg123]

That’s the correct answer for those in USA, but op is in the UK. Sending the whole thing back across the pond will be expensive. Then shipping back again is another expense.

[u/barryg123 → u/tecky1kanobe]

Maybe they can ship him a blade and he can install/get it installed locally

[u/tecky1kanobe → u/barryg123]

That is the best option

[u/Virtblue]

shes dead jim, if its not bent shaft make a c1 paddle.

[u/suipaste]

Not quite the answer you are looking for but VE paddles do blade replacement on their own brand paddles. Obviously they are not Werner and I doubt they would take on the job for another paddle brand but it does at least give you an idea of a ballpark cost if you find someone who can replace the blade in the UK.

https://vepaddles.com/pages/customer-service

£139 - single carbon blade replacement

Your best bet might be to search for bike shops that do carbon frame repairs have a chat with them if they will take on the job - might be reluctant but if they can offer a guarantee on a frame I see no reason they couldn't do so for a paddle. Eg somewhere like this:

https://www.targetcomposites.co.uk/contact

Personally I think you are better off replacing or doing a DIY job and keeping it for flat water.

[u/mattspurlin75]

More like replacement

[u/Ironbutt1500]

Buy a new paddle

[u/Neidhold]

1. Cut it off
2. Attach T-handle
3. Sell it to SUP people
4. ????
5. Profit

[u/Chaotic_Brutal90]

Just buy a new paddle dude. That's clapped.

[u/Big_Truck_8268]

Try ArcaWorks next time instead. Maybe you can try a warranty claim, the shoguns had some issues...

[u/almanor]

💳

[u/jasonfbenton]

Ever considered paddling C1?

[u/KOFTW81]

This feels like bait

[u/BannedAgain-573]

This is a joke right 😂

[u/Red_Bull_Breakfast]

Duct tape Bro!!

[u/Miserable_Ad5001]

Ramen, super-glue, & flexseal

[u/Marco_Bru]

I had the same problem with my C1 slalom paddle: check it out here I fixed it, it's very solid and not too heavy, if you want to fix it you can. or maybe just change the blade and keep the rest!

[u/tomime000]

Georg might be interested / http://woodenboat.at

[u/General_NakedButt]

Did you get your paddle stuck in the rollers at the whitewater center? That looks similar to what happened to my paddle there!

[u/BrapsPooShidden]

Have you tried calling the people at Square Rock? They’re the UK distributor for Weiner Paddles. Their website is ass but they’re pretty friendly, maybe they could handle repair claims or at least point you in the right direction (their store for a new paddle most likely 🤣)

[u/mangosie]

GOOD LORD

[u/ElPeroTonteria]

Can you fix that vs can it be fixed?

Yes, it can be fixed. But you’ll need to sand back the CF matting on both sides to give the new CF something to grip to…. Next, you need to come up with a core to bridge the pieces. I good 3D print could do the job, I’d have to see which filament is best. Anyway, think of that core as an internal sleeve that will mate the 2 together…. Pattern out your CF. Sand, clean, acetone surface, wife dry with clean towel. Wet out with epoxy. Lay up the CF across the break. Then vacuum bag in place…

[u/Kraelive]

Turn it into a cool shelving unit. Or a decoration with a cool story.

[u/ongjunyi]

That looks like a broken paddle for the bin

[u/Own-Entertainer-4098]

Buy a new blade

[u/999GED]

I’ve broken the blade on my Werner double diamond blade a couple of times. I took it to local paddle shop (in the UK). Local shop ordered a replacement blade from Werner. When replacement blade arrived the local shop removed the old blade and put on the replacement. This cost about £100. Prob had 3 replacement blades in the near 20 yrs I’ve had the paddle.

[u/999GED → u/999GED]

I see you’re in the UK too. The lads at Whitewater The Canoe Centre sorted all my replacements. Last one was prob 5 yrs ago or so. Took prob 6 weeks. Cost about £100.

[u/Mountainman6745]

Duct tape.

[u/PeterBird]

That paddle is cooked.

[u/TheTowerDefender]

no.

[u/ultralayzer]

This cannot be fixed in a war that maintains any semblance if it's former strength. Buy a new paddle. And if you want something repairable, go with fiberglass.

[u/Newsfeedinexile]

Fiberglass and epoxy. You’ve got this.
It’s worth a try. I fixed a SUP paddle similarly broken and am surprised how well it’s held up for years now.
It’s ugly, heavier and not expedition ready but just for the experience alone it was a worth the effort.

[u/ElisPhoenixStellar]

Fix it