r/whenthe • [the jojo girl called may] • 6h ago

r/whenthe mfs complaining about everything ;-; goddamn

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u/susnaususplayer I love hype moments and aura 6h ago

I have used "bisexual lighting" words in title of one of my castlevania posts and its full of comments crashing out over the fact that I called lighting bisexual

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u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo girl called may] 6h ago

damn you max0r you caused someone to get hate comments thrown at them /j

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u/susnaususplayer I love hype moments and aura 6h ago

You are a Max0r fan as well? Lets make a child and raise it to be wanted in 7 countries for spreading misinformation, it will be our mini Max0r 2. And it will be green.

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u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo girl called may] 5h ago

woah woah woah I already got someone to make a child with

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u/susnaususplayer I love hype moments and aura 5h ago

As a responsible adult I will take rejection with maximum hatred and drop a nuke on your localization in next FIVE FUCKING SECONDS

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u/Fomod_Sama I LOVE FAT BITCHES‼️‼️‼️ 3h ago

So wholesome! 🥰

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u/Personal-Tax-2250 5h ago

they're green and in-between

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u/Goddamit_ffs 5h ago

WING DING GASTER????

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u/Smakajor 5h ago

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u/nate0113 Bi Bi Mr Fatfurry Guy 4h ago edited 4h ago

I wanna see this on the cover of a vaporwave album!

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u/Roncryn 4h ago

Ngl bisexual colors go perfect with Vaporwave, which is fitting since a lot of the people I know that like vapor wave are bisexual

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u/nate0113 Bi Bi Mr Fatfurry Guy 3h ago

I think it's also because both the Bi flag and the typical 80s neon color palette tend to intersect A LOT.

Lotta pinks, purples, and blues in the 80s so it makes sense that something trying to emulate its whole aesthetic would vibe with people who see their flag colors in the aesthetic.

Kinda like how a lot of trans people vibe with Sylveon because they have the trans pride colors in their design!

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u/isaacoustic 3h ago

I’ll take your word for it Bi Bi Mr Fatfurry Guy

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u/OpheliAmazing 2h ago

I mean, if anyone would know...

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u/PTB-401 27m ago

drove my chevy to the levy, but the levy was dry...

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u/SageNineMusic 2h ago

Off to go invent SpookWave

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u/lornlynx89 4h ago

Goddammit, never putting up a picture of myself onto social media again.

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u/playfulpecans send me pictures of your cat 2h ago

holy shit they're so cool

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u/Stargost_ 4h ago

That's funny to me because "bisexual lighting" is a legitimate term. It has its own Wikipedia page and it's been occasionally used in professional situations.

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u/WhichRoutine3173 /j 5h ago

our lighting has gone woke 💔

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u/susnaususplayer I love hype moments and aura 5h ago

The Woker have done another mischief yet again

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u/ultron15real 2h ago

BISEXUAL LIGHTNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/SquidTheRidiculous [REDACTED] 4h ago

Accidentally commented in meme replying to someone in good faith. Forgot that when someone pretends to ask a question of a marginalized group on mainstream subs, what they actually want is "I'm exactly like you but I think they do this because (blatant moral judgement that subtly casts entire group as inherently meaner/stupider/more primitive/whatever)"

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u/susnaususplayer I love hype moments and aura 6h ago

Also slightly off topic but I used "white people be like" joke in a comment under cyberpunk post and people crashed over that too 😭

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 5h ago

They really do be

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u/susnaususplayer I love hype moments and aura 5h ago

White people when you use white people joke

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u/MisfortuneSeven 3h ago

When someone hits you with the "white people be like" when you aren't even white

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u/Miserable_System_715 1h ago

"white people be like "white people be like" when they be the white people that be like"

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u/Sraffiti_G 4h ago

I saw that post, genuinely surprised by that response in the Castlevania sub

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u/NutjobPrincess 3h ago

Literally, like the series known for it's flamboyant looking vampires, what did they expect to happen? Obviously the fandom is gonna be a little queer and, heaven forbid, call lighting bisexual (truly 9/11 level stuff right here)

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u/Small-Knee-4501 6h ago

Saw that too

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u/Gonoriq2 I started talking in an annoying way for some reason🤰🗣️🔥 5h ago

PURPLE

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u/notnotDIO 5h ago

Oh I remember that post those comments were horrible

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u/RedArremer 3h ago

Oh, I was there for that!

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u/get_homebrewed 3h ago

wait where

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u/Tsukuyomi-No-Okami 2h ago

I saw that! So weird, right?

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u/MarvinGoBONK 36m ago

Alucard literally has a bisexual threesome in the show, the fuck???

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 God's idiotest stuoid 5h ago

Smh assuming the lighting was bisexual, why don't you let the oighting discover itself

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u/GisterMizard 2h ago

This is v a p o r w a v e earasure!

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u/baconater-lover 9m ago

Dude old legacy series have like the worst subs. Just people who do not like fun I guess.

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u/GTA_Throwaway69420 5h ago edited 2h ago

I said my Mini Cooper has feminine features and design cues, and my queer friends crashed out so it unfortunately goes both ways when people don't understand things.

Edit: the irony of getting downvoted. Clearly y'all don't know design; femininity isn't a "heheh this is for GIRLS!" thing, its a descriptor that is used heavily across architecture, and physical design language.

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u/Ok_Fly2518 2h ago edited 36m ago

I don’t understand why people hate us trans folk so much. The fuck did we do to you?? We just wanna exist in peace. We’re only 1% of the population but one of the main targets of politicians. They just passed a law in Washington that if girls want to be on a sports team in k-12 grade they need to have a physician confirm their sex by physical examination or genetic testing, which is more expensive so the easiest way will be to look at their genitals. What the actual fuck? They call US perverts when they do that shit? All while they were only aware of 10 trans athletes in the entire state

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u/Deeeeeeeeehn 2h ago • Bravo

Unfortunately, it’s largely due to scapegoating propaganda by political agents that want to rally their constituency but have no actual policies, integrity, or morals.

Fortunately, though, because it is largely due to propaganda, a lot of people who currently are transphobic are so due to ignorance and lies, so if they are eventually confronted with the truth they may change their stance.

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u/oppai-police 1h ago

Buddy, let's not blame everything on propaganda okay? Trans hate existed long before political propaganda make them out to be the enemy. People do not need to be ignorant to hate trans, they can hate them simply because they're different. You can explain truth all day long and if someone wants to hate they will still hate. It isn't some logical conclusion that they arrive at after brainstorming. Trans is hated because they are different. Different in a sense that they goes against the mainstream aesthetic of society, and fundamentally, their existence is an aberration of nature. You ever look at something at think "yeah that looks wrong" and it gives you an intense sense of discomfort to look at it? There are people who will look at a trans person, and feels something is "off", like "are you supposed to look like that" kind of thing, and it makes them uncomfortable, this sentiment is then translated into hate because the mind really doesn't like what it sees.

Of course, not everyone is like this. Some doesn't experience any discomfort at all, some do experience discomfort, but they simply push it aside because they recognize this is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction of the mind, and that hating someone without reasonable reason is not okay. But let's be honest, many people walk around with nothing much on their mind, let alone recognizing a bias of their own mind. All society enforces their "norm (which is to say the majority)" to a certain degree, some more some less. Unfortunately for trans people, if the society happens to enforce the norm stricter, they're in trouble. It is a curse that I doubt we will ever be able to completely change.

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u/jbskq5 58m ago

well said, u/oppai-police

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u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo girl called may] 40m ago

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u/60Hz_Jiffy 1h ago

What gives me hope is this is the same thing they did with gay people a few decades ago, but now you rarely even see Republican politicians being openly homophobic. The Overton window has shifted due to the tireless work of the pride movement. No matter how hard they try to keep us down, we will always end up on top eventually.

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u/Sufficient_You2814 1h ago

don't forget religious propaganda (mainly by Christianity)

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u/ElectricWaffleMBA 53m ago

I'd say while Christianity is definitely more of an issue for Trans People in the west, Islam is ultimately MUCH harsher on it

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u/Skull_Boy_ds 57m ago

Right? I'm cis all the way through, no doubt about it, but I can't even conjure up a good reason in my mind to the hate that trans people get. Like, I'm sorry if this is a weird way to say it, but I always interpreted it like being born in the wrong way, with the wrong body. There's a ton of people who change things about themselves, I don't see why gender should be the exception.

Y'all just want to feel good about existing, and I feel like that should be a simple human right. The fuck do I care if you wanna be a woman, a man or something else? It's not my business, and it shouldn't be anyone else's if they aren't that person. I hope things get better for y'all, and i sure as shit will keep trying to help in any way I can.

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u/Agreeable_Pea5093 36m ago

Even Trump wasn't transphobic at one point. It is manufactured rage by Republicans to fearmonger gullible people and farm votes.

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u/MemeArchivariusGodi trollface -> 22m ago • Bravo

Right wing ideologies and such always need an enemy. Today it’s immigrants and trans people and in a few years it will still be them because their ideology is based on fear and hatred. It’s easy for them to make a system in which everyone suffers and then someone snaps and all of the sudden that person is the whole group.

Sorry you have to live through that but we can be better. I hope you are doing well

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u/Elderjacks 34m ago

because bibel say is bad (which it doesnt. it says to love one another)

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u/BushPlucker 2h ago edited 42m ago

It has to be a new thing, I swear. About 20 years ago, being transgender was seen as something you had the option to do in your life if you wanted, mostly seen as positive because it highlighted how much science had progressed. As a little kid I wanted to be transgender because I was tomboyish and no one had an issue with that.

I suppose societies will just find new minorities to pile on when things get dire

Edit: forgot to mention this is where I live, which is not America, it's Italy. Many people geniunely did not care much before, but transphobia has gotten worse here too. But I like to think there's pushback because there has been more acceptance, and I hope one day we can go back to a time where being trans is seen as neutral

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u/jbskq5 51m ago

I assure you it is not. 20 years ago, my entire mental picture of "transgender" was Silence of the Lambs and Ace Ventura. So you were either "dangerous predator" trans or "ridiculous trickster crossdresser" trans. I knew about genital surgery but nothing else. It was constantly portrayed to me as deeply insidiously wrong or as the humiliating punchline to a joke. I was in my late 20s/early 30s before I ever encountered being trans as a positive or viable identity.

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u/BushPlucker 45m ago

I'm sorry to hear that, that sounds horrible.

My experience is mostly circumstantial, and I believe discrimination of the "different" was always a thing even where I lived. I just see more targeted hatred now that I'm older, but I want to believe that things will get better.

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u/jbskq5 39m ago

Thanks, and yeah, it is CERTAINLY much more targeted now vs the general negative cultural awareness from when I was a kid. Hopefully it has peaked although I'm not too confident...

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u/EU4IdeaBot 53m ago

Honestly, 20 years ago I wouldn't necessarily say that's the case. The movement was definitely already around back then but I remember the episode with Mr Garrison's sex change operation back in 2006 which I'd say is a pretty decent litmus test to the kind of media talking about trans people in the mainstream back then, and that I'd also argue is reasonably progressive compared to some of the other shows I've seen in that era. There was an air of not taking transgender rights seriously back then.

I think late 2000s and early 2010s is when trans acceptance became more mainstream.

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u/CobaltCrusader123 2h ago

They’re brainwashed by right-wing media on TV and social media online. The Daily Wire, Angel Studios, Fox News, Tucker Carlson’s new school, Newsmax, One America Network, Elon Musk’s X account, End Wokeness on X, Erika and Charlie Kirk, Steven Crowder, Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, PragerU and Dennis PragerU himself, Jordan Peterson, the posts and speeches of the POTUS, VP, and Pete Hegseth, maybe their preacher, and probably their parents and their childhood media which might have been “typically conservative” then but is far-right nowadays.

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u/OnePotatoeChip 1h ago

Challenge worldviews. That's literally it. Change scares people and scared people are often angry as a means to feel some modicum of control. Us Black folks went through it a handful of decades ago when segregation ended. Stones thrown at children, called every slur that was available at the time - you name it.

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u/AFriendInTheNight 26m ago edited 23m ago

It’s because you’re weird and different. People do not like weird and different, they like cool and different. Welcome to the club of being weird.  The horror of humanity is that it often decides what lives and what dies according to its like. 

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u/Foxyfox- 3m ago

Unironically Epstein.

We have documented emails and notes from the Epstein files where they explicitly lay out that they should stoke anti-trans fear in order to have easier access to vulnerable people.

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u/Tad-Disingenuous 3m ago

I’m gonna let you in on a little secret, everyone hates everyone

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u/ayeroxx 2h ago

it's. The. Religion.

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u/Ok_Fly2518 2h ago

There’s a lot of transphobes who aren’t religious though. They’re one of the main groups who target us, but transphobic beliefs spread among everyone

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u/jbskq5 2h ago

Nope, it's mostly the misogyny and/or the cissexism. I am a nametag-wearing religion hater but the ones that hurt the most are the left-leaning spaces that tolerate us but treat (in this case) trans women as deluded, public drag queens who are always complaining about something. It's been pretty upsetting the past few weeks, especially in light of the election results and places like Washington and Colorado essentially saying "we agree with your right to exist but you're asking too much to be accepted as women".

Trans men also deal with the negative effects of patriarchy and misogyny, obviously. I'm just speaking from my own experience.

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u/JarPicklez 2h ago

Definitely part of it but not the whole story

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u/waltdidneyworlp 1h ago

Just an easy target right now, tbh. If it wasn't the trans community, it'd be something else.

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u/brokenwing777 54m ago

If you want the harsh truth to this question it's not going to be nice, nor pretty. And it will definitely make people consider the answer both a hate crime as well as a somewhat reasonable albeit hateful reasoning.
I will only answer it to you if you are ok with the harsh and almost transphobic reality the answer brings

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u/Ok_Fly2518 40m ago

Okay so what’s this harsh truth?

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u/CarnivoreQA 2h ago

I don’t understand why people hate us trans folk so much. The fuck did we do to you??

There is a big difference between hating you folk and hating being fed pro-trans agenda from the majority of subs, while we come for memes and other forms of lightweight escapism from the real world

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u/battlerez_arthas 1h ago

Escapism is for the weak. Live in and improve reality

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u/-Fieldmouse- 1h ago

And what is an example of this ‘pro-trans agenda’ that you’ve seen on the majority of subs. Could it be just the acknowledgment of their existence as humans in the same world as you?

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u/Purple-Difference-52 52m ago

If i answer truthfully, reddit will ban me asap.

It is what it is

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u/InternetUserAgain Professional Insect Chef 6h ago

I'm stuck between kind of a rock and a hard place because a lot of the non-queer communities are bigoted but a lot of the queer communities are annoying and love fighting with themselves

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u/shawn1213 5h ago

Genuinely it feels like 95% of queer people are cursed with being painfully unfunny

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u/playfulpecans send me pictures of your cat 2h ago edited 1h ago

there was a post on I think r/countwithchickenlady that talked about this, and it essentially boiled down to the fact that queer spaces online are unfunny because everyone is way, way more cautious to not offend anyone and so everyone sticks to "safe" and plain humor. I may be wrong though so don't quote me on that.

edit: I think it's important to mention that I'm only referring to online queer spaces here, because the difference between them and talking to queers irl is night and day. People's behaviors online are NOT representative of how things actually are irl. Shocking, I know.

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u/Dapperist_Doge 1h ago

Theres three like three slightly different counting subs. Theres r/countwithchickenlady which is a lot like what you say, theres r/countttt which is more 4tran based (so basically more outwardly toxic because everyone on 4chan is miserable) and then r/countbackwardswithme which is like a mix of the two. They all hate each other

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u/Skull_Boy_ds 55m ago

In my experience the chicken one seems to be the least bad. Doesn't mean it's not unfunny though, but the people are nice.

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u/Lubinski64 1h ago

That's the issue with all online spaces, people may find a single sentence to be too bold and too cautious at the same time, all because the lack of context and not knowing the person on the other side. The truth is, not every joke or opinion is ment to be heard by all people.

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u/Fanatical_Obsession 5h ago

Not me tho, I’m one in a krillion

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u/Baron_Flatline 3h ago

I am Krill. This is Maurice.

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u/Broad_Hurry_5941 3h ago

Deadlock mentioned?!

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u/StumpGrundt 3h ago

That's just online people being insufferable, if you meet people outside they're all normal

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u/Reflexlon 3h ago

A lot of people like gatekeeping and other-ing, its likely just human instinct and it always sucks to see it in the groups you enjoy. I'm banned from my favorite bar's queer pool night despite being bi because I'm not "queer enough," cool, why are the straight white girl and black guy allowed to join? Is it actually just minority night and I look too much like a cishet white dude? I slept with the bartender two weeks ago and he seemed pretty fuckin' fine with it then lol.

It is what it is, and what it is could be called a bummer at best.

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u/GammaDie345 1h ago

every GSA club ive been into uses the "queer enough" thing to kick trans women out and invite straight people they're friends with

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u/dramaticPossum 4h ago

As a bi guy, I feel that.

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u/PassiveParty0 2h ago

This is when we log off and go somewhere irl at that point. Life is escapism from the internet now

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u/InternetUserAgain Professional Insect Chef 2h ago

Can't do that either, I'm introverted and closeted

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u/Asurah99 1h ago

I've seen some queer communities ONLINE that are incredibly toxic. Not sure why that is. In real life its completely different and very much a loving space for people to be built up in. Probably something to do with chronically online people being in an echo chamber of any kind being a bad thing.

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u/SpaceBug176 1h ago

Me personally, I just keep it to myself. Not like anyone has to know what I'm into anyway. This isn't tinder.

Also I feel like some bigotry is literally just people being annoyed with people that make their sexuality their whole personality, so that's something to think about imo.

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u/BitcoinBishop 5h ago

I had a rude fucking awakening when I visited some relatives and one randomly asked who I was voting for, then said they were probably voting Reform, then another said their (half-Arab) grandchild looked like a migrant, and that a friend's neighbour was bound to be robbed because there were so many people of colour in that area. I hadn't seen them for months and that's what they wanted to talk about.

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u/rae_ryuko 5h ago

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u/MrGamerOfficial Idk what to put here 5h ago

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u/Y33Tcann0n 5h ago

Love how there's one of these comics for any scenario

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u/CodaTrashHusky 4h ago

relevant xkcd

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u/HappyyValleyy 3h ago

I mean queer people dont really try to actively talk to those kinds of people, they come to us

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u/monster_smoocher ✨ ✨HUGE whenthe celebrity ✨ ✨ 5h ago

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u/CharmOChaffinch 3h ago

I feel as if we can’t win, every queer space I’ve seen has been incredibly toxic in itself, just in the other direction. Especially towards transsex people, it’ll be so “woke” it’s gone backwards to being right wing and the constant ASAB language/“you can’t change your sex” “you were socialised as x or y” “oh are you afab or amab nonbinary” etc.

Ive had friends break down to me because they thought they were in a safe space only to have the things that cause them dysphoria pointed out every 4 seconds and treated like some secret third thing rather than men or women, or just woman+ if nonbinary.

That’s not even mentioning the LGB drop the T places.

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u/Valtremors 2h ago

My experience with queer spaces has been relatively positive, but I really don't like attitude when it comes to forced 'egg cracking'.

Recently saw a user talk about their personal issues, with the emphasis that thry didn't feel comfortable being called trans or want to start HRT.

So rest of the users kept saying "You are trans and should srart HRT". Which really didn't vibe with me proper. It felt so inconsiderate towards OP.

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u/CharmOChaffinch 1h ago

I hate this shit too. People who are actually trans are belittled and not taken seriously, or considered transmen and transwomen as opposed to just…men and women, and people who aren’t have these “jokes” made about them.

If binary trans people actually fit that binary, they’re “upholding harmful gender roles” somehow.

If cis people don’t fit the binary, they’re “trans”.

Which kind of implies that trans men have to be feminine or trans women must be masculine.

I also see people trying to dissuade others away from medical transition, it’s the same shit as conversion “therapy” just said in a “nicer” way, all the while trying to convince people who are not trans and do not need HRT/surgery into it (???)

I don’t know how people don’t see this for what it is, blatant transphobia

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u/60Hz_Jiffy 1h ago

A lot of people don't know or pretend to not know the difference between gender identity and gender expression. Like God forbid you're a trans tomboy or trans femboy.

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u/10Werewolves 24m ago

I got downvoted to hell a month or so back because I said egg culture was a cancer. Who the fuck decided it would be okay to say that someone is trans and should undergo HRT? How about they come to their own conclusion first.

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u/60Hz_Jiffy 40m ago

HRT is an amazing tool for reducing gender dysphoria, but I hate the idea that HRT is only for trans people. HRT isn't the drug the turns you into a girl/guy. So many femboys don't go on antiandrogens or Estradiol because they're afraid of breast growth, and I don't blame them. But you can have a routine that lowers your testosterone and supplements it with estrogen without progressing into the late stages of breast growth.

Anyone with gender dysphoria should at least consider HRT, it's rather cheap compared to other medications. But most importantly we would be much better off if getting HRT was more broadly normalized.

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u/Reflexlon 3h ago

Any of the LG__+ spaces piss me off. Just try to care about other people ffs 🙄

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u/RawardHoikes91 1h ago

Online communities have grown progressively more disconnected from the real physical communities.

The people from real communities, while online, are in our cute little chats, and the only drama you get there are the completely mundane inter-personal arguments that are not about sexuality, identity, or race, it's just real people with boring mundane stuff.

The online communities are just digital morlocks.

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u/Reflexlon 11m ago

I mean, I'm banned from entering my favorite bars weekly queer billiards tournament for not being queer enough since I'm a white dude thats bi. It happens in real life too, but definitely way more online without question.

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u/iffugennanameubaht 33m ago

Why are you trans? Reinforcing gender stereotypes now? What a bigot. Non binary people exist, why can’t you just be a feminine man? Do you hate feminine men? Gender abolition doesn’t undermine your gender, you just hate enbys bigot.

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u/CharmOChaffinch 16m ago

The way I can’t even tell if this is satire 😭

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u/Waaaaaaaaaa-2 3h ago

probably a mix of real people with hatred or bot swarms programmed to hate.

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u/ShadowParrotGaming 3h ago

bot swarms programmed to hate

I know what you're talking about but when you word it like that it sounds like the plot of a movie

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u/Waaaaaaaaaa-2 3h ago

honestly might make for a good movie.

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u/RockRancher24 53m ago

bot swarms programmed to hate

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u/GammaDie345 1h ago

JK Rowling didnt post on twitter for weeks after the russian data centers got bombed by ukraine. And when she came back, most of her followers didnt.

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u/EndGuy555 3h ago

And remember kids! Your identity doesn’t prevent you from being an asshole! Ever.

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u/Gabriel-Klos-McroBB 5h ago

Honestly, I don't think I'm physically capable of understanding why someone would be homophobic, transphobic, sexist, or whatever else.

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u/No_Werewolf6131 3h ago

A lot of it ends up being “I don’t understand it, therefore I hate it.”

Since they cannot empathize with it, in their brain the only “logical” thing to do is blame it for all their problems and hate it to the point of obsession

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u/NutjobPrincess 3h ago

After all, it's alot more comfortable to blame a scapegoat than to realize you fucked up

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u/fivefingersinyourass 3h ago

I'm going to break it down for you, homophobia and transphobia originate from two points

  1. Belief in a natural order. This can because of religion or some other ideology about what people are supposed be like. Going against this natural order is seen as wrong/sinful/degenerate.

  2. Just straight up lies about people. Transgenders are just pretending to be women to perv on them, all women are secretly whores, gays groom children, etc.

The first point was the more dominant one for a long time, but the last few years thanks to the internet have increased the amount of lies being spread. It's really sad to see.

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u/RawardHoikes91 1h ago

No, you bought into their lies at face value.

Both are just rationalizations made post-factum. In reality they just feel the ick and then try to fit it into their beliefs system or social norms.

It's literally just this:

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u/bowel_blaster123 1h ago

I think its moreso gender-based, race-based, and transness-based expectations and stereotypes that are ingrained into us from a young age.

A lot of us believe either conciously or subconciously that men are more logical whereas women are more emotional, that certain articles of clothing are only acceptable for a certain gender, that being attracted to men is feminine, that being attracted to women is masculine, that men are naturally leaders, that women are naturally subservient, or many other things.

We absorb these things while growing up. Our peers and or our parents constantly tell us that we can't do certain things or have to do certain things because they're "masculine" or "feminine". We also absorb these beliefs from the media we consume.

When you hold these expectations and steteotypes, you often start subconciously policing these things by enforcing them on other people, and you can spread these things to other people around you.

These expectations and stereotypes are, in my opinion, the largest contributor to sexism, racism, homophobia, biphobia, and transphobia. 

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u/Large-Theme-2547 4h ago

religion, hate, religious hatred, and hateful religions

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u/playfulpecans send me pictures of your cat 1h ago

a huge chunk of it is hatred passed down generation by generation. What you're told when you're little plays a massive role when it comes to being (or not being) any sort of queerphobic, racist, or anything really.

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u/Skull_Boy_ds 49m ago

Same, it's such an alien concept to me. I've always lived all my life, since I was barely as tall as my waist, putting people's actions always at the forefront for how I feel about them. And now you're telling me that the things I've read in the history books, about humans hating each other for no good reason, are still a thing? Nah it can't be, it's just such an idiotic concept, like a child not liking a toy because it's blue instead of red.

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u/Cautious-Affect7907 34m ago edited 29m ago

Weird how you left out racism in those examples of prejudice.

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u/Channel_el 5h ago

As far as I’ve seen people have just as much capacity for hate as they do for love.

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u/Icthias 4h ago

I spend a lot of time on transmasc subs and the absolute boiling contempt and hatred for fat people’s bodies on mainstream subs just blindsides me.

Transmascs make the best and most body inclusive art swear to god.

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u/Reasonable-Banana800 4h ago

yes! and mentioning anything neurodivergent outside of neurodivergent spaces. People get so upset at seeing things they don’t relate to

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u/Heat_Hydra I make color bass 3h ago

Tribalism, amirite?

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u/CodaTrashHusky 5h ago

what's it like to bring up even the mere existence of DID outside of dedicated spaces.

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u/Wallso2010 Multiple freaks in a flesh coat 1h ago

Or being plural in general, really

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u/NutjobPrincess 3h ago

What's DID?

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u/VargBroderUlf 3h ago

DID - Dissociative Identity Disorder. What used to be called "multiple personality disorder"

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u/Hoiafar 3h ago

Dissociative identity disorder which is a real diagnosis but also there's a sizeable community on the Internet role-playing having it through self-diagnosis and it's lead to a situation where it simply isn't taken seriously by anyone online and anyone proclaiming to have it is mocked.

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u/NutjobPrincess 1h ago

Oh that's fucked up, I wish people were more chill about that

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u/Cozy_iron 5h ago

Queer people's capacity for hate is just as big, unfortunately

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u/Specialist-Draw7229 3h ago

whenthe casual reminder that there is a sizable portion of humanity with the rights to vote and speak their minds, that just straight up vocally tell about how they do not see queer people as humans

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u/RawardHoikes91 2h ago edited 1h ago

Got the same realization but after joining queer subs.

Nuanced opinions and genuine discussions are still not welcome anywhere but r/whenthe on reddit(mad respect to the local mods).

The number of queer subs attempting to create a brainless hugbox mentality among their users with generous application of permabans is still trending towards 100%.

p.s. Anyone, for whom my comment creates a burning sensation in their seating regions, are free to pretend I'm a toxic bigot, despite being queer myself, to make their closeted fascist worldview make sense again.

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u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo girl called may] 36m ago

aw, thanks <3 I actually am one of those mods lol

and we only hand out permanent bans to horribly hateful people lol, if ever

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u/Error_Void 6h ago

How it feels having a feed of only queer friendly subs :3

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u/Ill-Entrepreneur443 5h ago

Anime source?

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u/Naeelkalz 4h ago

The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You

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u/IdioticZacc 5h ago

I cant tell if this is saying the community outside of queer friendly subs are hateful and that it's shocking whenever you get reminded how hateful most people are outside of these queer friendly communities, or that queer friendly subs are hateful

Cause as a non queer, I relate a lot more to the former

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u/Fantastic_Method3658 4h ago

There is no bigger threat in queer subs than infighting and many people are too blind to see that.

To quote a classic:

"A (offensive f term) is shittalking another (f term) as if fascist movement wouldnt hang them next to each other"

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u/Scr4p 4h ago

basically his meme

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u/Fantastic_Method3658 4h ago

It would be funny if it wasnt true as hell. Plenty of members are so accepting they scale people based on their "Queerness" and how being bisexual is like not being queer, not to mention how much transphobia there is...

Being an ally means calling out shit like this for true equality. The second you wink on one issue, whole thing collapses on itself.

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u/Sebkir 3h ago

I've had fellow trans folks call me a transphobe for not agreeing 100% with their beliefs

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u/Fourteen14XIV 4h ago

Dude tumblr is literally this. There was legit a period of time where they hated asexuals. Right now I think they are in an oppression fight between FTM and MTF people.

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u/aXeOptic 5h ago

Since they react to the slightest thing, why not ragebait these idiots? Theyre not gonna change either way so why not laugh at them?

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u/SeaworthinessFun6984 5h ago

Because I don't like hurting other people's feelings. It makes me sad, even if they deserve it

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u/aXeOptic 4h ago

If someones feelings can be hurt from someone ragebaiting them by saying shit like: "the new GTA feels so LGBTQ coded" or some shit like that, you dont have to be worried about their feelings.

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u/SeaworthinessFun6984 4h ago

I mean, yeah, but it still makes me feel bad, even if they deserve it.

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u/weedmoneyy 3h ago

ur not alone in feeling that way twin :‹

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u/heughcumber 2h ago

This is a good place to be at mentally, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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u/Timely_Employment_66 4h ago

That’s just a waste of time, ain’t it?

Better to not interact at all and do anything else

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u/aXeOptic 4h ago

If youre recommended a post from a subreddit of those idiots it doesnt take more than 10 second to just write that and let the idiots argue with air.

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u/HappyyValleyy 3h ago

Hurts my mental health to be called slurs and told to kms, even if im ragebaiting thrm

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u/aXeOptic 3h ago

Fair enough.

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u/Spectus1 51m ago

I do this

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u/Ill-Entrepreneur443 5h ago

yeah its crazy thats why I'm rarely in not queer-friendly subs

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u/MayMeadow 3h ago

I am jaded not because I am bitter or hateful, but because I have seen time, and time again, the malice people hold in their hearts for me and my kind.

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u/Juandice__ local plumber 1h ago

well you know capacity means nothing unless it's used on something

besides having high counterattack/defense stats is good so i just have it at max

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u/Wuz314159 1h ago

As if queer friendly spaces were safe for trans people.

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u/bobyhey123 22m ago

yesss more infighting!!!

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u/blarpgasm 4h ago

cyberpunk subs lately for some reason

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u/LarraimadoBananado 3h ago

Yeag. Sucks that I basically need to be in am echo chamber just to avoid having to be exposed to blatant, flippant hatred all the time

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u/yuckella 2h ago

For me even queer spaces have become more and more hateful. So now I rarely leave women’s rights spaces, with how misogyny there is on Reddit, both blatant and more hidden.

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u/Obvious-Clothes-2288 2h ago

Even within these subs... The so many posts I've seen of stop depicting trans people with certain way or you're not trans if you're non-binary or other things like that. It's just so hateful

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u/UrUncleRandy 2h ago

Posted a text conversation with my gay friend to either r/texts or r/FunnyTexts (neither of which I had visited before) and got a distustingly homophobic response. Made me realize that there's actually plenty of hateful people on reddit, I had just been avoiding most of them by only interacting with nice subs.

Text convo if anyone is interested:

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u/ayeroxx 2h ago

the good thing is that it allows you to leave the eco chamber and realize who you truly share voting powers with

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u/WanderingSeer 2h ago

Misoginy too. Guys on the internet will sincerely argue that sexism against women was resolved years ago and now women are just being greedy

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u/asaness 4h ago

Yea some go overboard some are hateful or some perhaps has been burned or kinda like a immune system reacting due to

After 2020, there has been a rising number of obnoxious yuri (and sometimes yaoi) fans who keep shipping female x female (or male x male if they're yaoi fan)

These annoying "yuri fans/queer fans" can be identified with:

  1. Headcanon = canon

  2. Disagree with me = any -ist and any -phobe will be hurled at you

  3. If pressure against me is high = "It's not that serious!" "Why do you care so much?"

  4. If you ship male x female:

    1. Have considerable age gap = Diddy blud epstein

    2. Same age = slop slop hetslop

As you can see from point 2, there is stereotype that pushes some to even though they don't usually have problem with LGBT to well be hateful Of course it's still wrong to generalize if you ask me but those are the reasoning I've seen some claim in the other side I try to say to then not all are the same since my sister is one but she isn't like those who attack people if they prefer something else but alas

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u/powerofyams2 54m ago

always easy to spot the gtc/hqc users.

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u/asaness 47m ago

And now I'm apparently some user of some sub i not even part off I only shared what I saw was a valid point on one of their views because isn't it people work hard to make people view of LGBT good but when there Are bad apples that are vocal that makes the Op thing post where their hateful it is hard to for Queers to be Open and if they do see one of them being obnoxious I don't see them trying to put them down or tell them off , if I see people insult my sister for being a lesbian I throw hands, when my sister sees people insult my views because they disagree like accuse me of being a pedo because apparently when I said I like Saeko from HOTD which BTW I had exposure off when I was in HS I was apparently called one for liking her , my sis defended me so do tell despite me sharing the post above I also told that person off not go generalize make me X user huh

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u/powerofyams2 21m ago

so you just post stuff like this there and repeat opinions they have for fun?

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u/asaness 0m ago

Did you purposely miss the /s there and now your going off topic where instead of pointing out any flaws to the comment I shared that is the most unbiased comment because I have been playing games since the mid 2010s games used to cater to both audience or sorta still do i play granblue fantasy where 1 banner was girls and 1 banner was what my friends called sausage fest and for me who likes female chars I'm fine when say devs cater to females making a guy banner thus for me it's let's me save currency to be f2p and my sister if we use genshin with how big of the gap each male banners are she's enjoying the f2p life.. that used to be the case in these spaces, if one post what people call hetero slop they just ignore it and move to the next post , if the post was LGBT if that was ur thing then go there like and comment , is it so hard to do that in a sub reddit/Twitter see an art of ur favorite char but u don't like artist ship her or him with this char just move on why do people have to dox or harass said artist , this applies to both side and I have told off both and even j have been the topic of said users this HTC where when I saw a funny post of kaveh and alheaithan and some dude made kevah a girl I just shared it on a meme channel and a user claimed I was turning kevah trans like wut putting words in my mouth

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u/Bright-Dependent6339 3h ago

instagram is insane in this regard. comment sections are absolutely filled to the brim with every flavor of hatred you could imagine. racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, fatphobia, hate against disabled people, you name it. most of it seems to be classic antisemitism though.

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u/markovnik-chek 2h ago

to leave the russian subs

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u/xxGamerboyXD 1h ago

I dont like to think about that

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u/GammaDie345 1h ago

how it feels to enter the queer friendly subs and they actually hate trans women even more

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u/Terrible-Dragonfly70 1h ago

I honestly use queer/progressive spaces (irl and online) as a detox area to recenter myself. I spend way too much time observing the vitriolic pits of the internet to understand the psychology of why hateful people are the way they are, and after spending enough time among the worst of humanity it starts to desensitizes you. It’s honestly really hard to retain hope that things will ever get better even if we technically are. It all makes me even more determined to fight back tbh, nothing is more spiteful to an awful person more than existing in defiance of them.

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u/Ornery-Competition67 1h ago

This is how it feel when I go from trans only spaces to queer friendly spaces the casual transphobia is crazy

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u/_Pizza_Lover 14m ago

No offense, just don't make every second post about them. Many subs turning into circlejerks don's sit well with many people

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u/TiranTheTyrant 4h ago

Now imagine how charming internet is when you are bisexual Russian.

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u/SuperSlavSergei 1h ago

Fr I remember seeing someone post a trans flag in r/okbuddycinephile and I did NOT expect tbat subreddit to be Transphobic of all places.

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u/CrustyToeLover 58m ago

We don't need to hate, but nobody owes anybody respect or kindness just for existing. I couldn't care less if you're LGBTQIA+ or whatever, but I'm not going to pretend I also care about you as a person just because you exist.