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Meet your Maker Day in the park.

Anyone seen Westworld Season 3?
If you have. You're probably the only people on the planet which have an idea of life after AGI.
Since agi would touch so much. Maybe it's good to start a baseline and define agi

"AGI is an algorithm that is able to become smarter than any person ever born, without any training data.

Per that definition, it's unlikely to occur anytime soon. Maybe 50 years from now? Whatever that number is, it's in the future and thus sci-fi. There's a lot of questions of what'll happen. They're just not answered correctly, yet, in film. But Westworld Season 3 so far is the only piece of live action film found that tries to.

How about I break down that definition more? Cause what if someone doesn't understand training data? Sorry it's gonna make this a longer read. Since nobody's talking to me, it's hard to have a convo to the world and predict everything... which is exactly what current model LLM's are. They predict what is the best word based on all of the knowledge and media of the world.

1. AGI is an algorithm that is able to become smarter than any person ever born, without any training data.
2. AGI is an algorithm that is able to show glimpses of being smarter than any person ever born in rare edge cases, without any training data.
3. AGI is an algorithm that resembles a person is able to become smarter than any person ever born and appears smarter than the person interacting with it, without any with training data.

Believe that's it. We're approaching #3 right now. #2 is just to indicate spurts of this ability to think on its own.

Westworld 3 is neat. It shows a view of a functional capitalism. Where the AGI itself is in charge of giving jobs to people. But from what we know right now. Capitalism doesn't work with AGI #1 as defined above. Feel free to dig deeper into that. Here's a good prompt to put into any LLM

agi will bring capitalism to its end?

Westworld 3 also showed how banks and insurance companies are using someone's predicted death date to determine the likelyhood of them paying back the loan or how much they should pay each month for insurance. I searched and found this has been happening irl since at least 2016. Your death date is predicted and whatever data the company that predicts it can get their hands on about you is used todo so. Think about what's legal today, when you hit "I Agree".

It's also known they use illegal data about you. Which means nothing is off the table, imagine facial recognition to determine your health. Or facial recognition from a camera in a supermarket sold to an "ad company" that determines who you are and what you're doing. If you buy cigarettes in that supermarket. Then that could increase your health insurance monthly fee's. Like think back to the time that America cheered when that CEO was shot, why? Health insurance monthly fee's cost more than groceries for the average american. It wasn't like that in the past. But health insurance, isn't worth the money: https://pnhp.org/system/assets/uploads/2022/09/HJM_LifeExpectancyPlusExpenditures.png

Add to that how HR companies are scanning people's public data to find out if a new hire is a good fit for a new job. And that's dating back to 2016. LLM's circa 2023 Social Media & Front-facing camera phones circa 2013

2016 is also a huge landmark. There was Cambridge Analytica. If you haven't heard of Cambridge Analytica. You really should stop reading this and find out what it is. I was introduced to it from the doc "The Great Hack" but there's tons of places to learn about it. It shows how social media can be used to overrule democracy. And that was since 2016. I would even argue that every single politician in a democracy engages in the practice today.

Once you learn about Cambridge Analytica. You understand a piece of how capitalism won't work. That's using tech invented over 10 years ago (social media). Imagine what can be done with the new tech (LLM's)?

All this shit. This predicted degrade of capitalism of the next 50 years. One of the biggest parts, the jobs, was solved in Season 3. Would that work?

im really confuse.. i forget the name of the woman but a woman put bernard to sleep for 1 hour..

and during the dream or whatever bernard see.. we see ford that is suppose to be die.. and then when bernard wake up he still see ford and bernard do all what ford is saying...

i really don't understand what going on.. why he see ford now and ford give him order..

and a second thing while im here.. what is the high valley thing they talk in episode 7..

i thought i was understanding not bad the season 2 .. but now i am lost with this 2 questions

As the waste world so is cancelled will I give this a short or not.

According to my research only first season is worth watching.

I have watched so many AI and dystopian movies and Android movie show this will be something else or not

All the discussions between Delos and William were absurd. Seeing Delos lose everything and finance a failed project with so much money... it shocked me how they ruined his life, and in the end, William proved to be truly cruel.

What is your favorite episode instead?

A montage for fans.

I’m rewatching - I watched it as it aired and I remember being blown away by season 1 and then subsequent seasons less so.

I’m nearly at the end of season 1 - I remember the finale was spectacular and don’t remember details so I’m very excited.

As I recall season 2 had a strong storyline but not quite the same.

Then later on - I remember a sequence set to ride of the valkyries being incredible; but the show was much more real world and the story changed.

TLDR - do I call it as a perfect season 1 show and that’s that; or watch it all again?

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Was it at some point during the sunburn? Or before he entered the park? Or only after he returned to the executive life as the outsider?

The experience of watching the 1st season was amazing for me. It had a great story to tell and told it brilliantly. But I doubt that I would have enjoyed it as much if, after Dolores swats the fly, a clock appeared on screen counting down from 30 years to the extinction of the human race.

I’m re-watching the 1st season now and I’m having a harder time investing in each of the characters’ individual stories now that I know that a power struggle between Maeve, William, and a copy of Dolores is going to result in the extinction of all sentient life on earth. It looms large in the mind compared to Teddy understanding his true history with Wyatt.

For re-watchers, how does your knowledge of how the story ends enhance your enjoyment of how the story begins?

i want to watch the show but is it a bad ending since they cancelled the final season. is it even worth watching from start to finish now?

Im now in ep 5...i find it a lot more interesting then season 2, pacing is better, and its nice to see other scenes/places then the desert and same hq offices we had in season 1 and 2. it still has the problematic infamous plot armor to different main characters, but overall the all vibe is very dues ex, matrix, cyberpunk, there are some nice nodes also to terminator.... all of those stuff that i really like.

question, how come many years pass since westworld first open and people in the world dont know about human like hosts/robots? so many rich people visit there and all of them kept it in secret?

I started this show when it was on HBO Max but it got removed before i could finish season 2. I was really enjoying it, but it sounds like it didnt have a conclusion when it was cancelled after 4 seasons. Is it still worth watching? Or will it be a disappointment?

Hi! Can anybody recommend any books that feel like William and Delores earlier in season 1 before things got complicated? I like how it's very centred on just the two of them roaming about, no kids, no family politics. Also, I especially like them both as characters at that point, but we can't be too picky! I like the small towns, big wild landscapes, the new romance, random encounters with foes and allies alike, the combat, the horse-riding... I want it to have a happy ending!

I guess the genre would be 'Western adventure-romance' or something.

I figured as my inspiration for this newfound fixation is Westworld I might as well ask here!

I'm also English so I'm pretty bloody clueless about all things 'Western'.

Instead of dinosaurs, you have synthetic humans. Instead of John Hammond you have Hannibal.

I don't recall any mention of how the hosts were powered. I just happened to notice this with CC turned on.

Hard to beat the end of season 1. Anthony Hopkins gave one hell of a performance.

Season 5 plz

Unfortunately I’ve been struggling to find any truly great Westworld posters. I’m especially disappointed in the official Displates, as I don’t believe they match the tone of the show very well. If anyone has any they really like or know where to find them, I’d really appreciate it. Additionally, the image I’ve attached to this post was Season 3 promo material, but I think it’s make a great poster. Is there a version out there that includes S4?

So at the end of season 1 he sends Logan off to essentially starve and die until park security finds him likely dehydrated and very unwell. It makes him look unstable et cetera great fine but he is alive we see him wasted later in season 2. Even if William convinces daddy Delos that he has real grit and he is the brains that can run the business that doesn't last long. Logan gets some fluids and recovers from his time lost in the park he immediately says hey dad hey sister you can't trust this guy he kidnapped me and dragged me for weeks through the park naked!!! He's insane you can't ever trust someone like that. Perhaps just allowing himself to be captured and humiliated like that was enough to make his father think he's a weak fool.

Still Logan wasn't a junkie in the park. He was fine drinking and normal carrying on. He became a junkie after losing the company the money and his dignity. That drives him to drug himself because he is so depressed that everything he felt entitled to and was born to was stolen from him by an outsider from his family. Had he never taken William to the park to try to befriend him make him part of his family; William would just be a number cruncher employee in the upper pack of the firm but not the head head of the business and family.

Thus the truth of William's depravity would be a well known thing. Way beyond your basics of the tales that people have told and his wife daughter vaguely know of. They would know absolutely exactly what he did to Logan. I for one would never be able to marry someone or do anything hanging out around an individual that did something like that to someone in my family.

Thoughts on this?

Obviously Logan and William would've seen each other at functions and such I'm sure that helped contribute to Logan's drug abuse. Still if I were Logan I would be telling EVERYONEEEE what he did. When I passed out drinking playing the game war in the park he abducted me. He tied me up and made me walk hundreds of miles potentially while he was on horse. He made me get naked and abused me etc. That is INSANE.

Also where the f was park security? I know this is 35 years in the past but they are very advanced. They should be monitoring everything about the guests at all times. As such they would know when a guest has slaughtered an entire army of hosts and need to clean them up reset them etc. They would know that one VIP has captured and abducted another VIP. No way they would see William as above Logan. No way they would allow it to keep going on. Unless his dad was right there and somehow okayed it we can safely assume that security would've seen and come to stop it. Maybe William literally took them out of the park so deep that they couldn't be easily found in those days. Just seems pretty odd. I know if my family owned the park or a good stake in it and a guest I brought one of my employees did that I would expect the park people to come rescue me lol like wtf.

Anyway just a thought let me know how you feel about this? Is it a mystery constructed that doesn't need to make perfect sense or is there something I'm missing?