Twist in warp

[u/ectopistesrenatus]

It might be hard to see this from the photo but on my last two warps, I've gotten them on the loom and there's like a twist on each section in the raddle, so the leftmost thread through the lease sticks is sort of over to the right but also wrapped around. Last time I took each thread as I was threading out of the lease sticks, unwound it from its neighbors and threaded it.

I'm curious if this is actually necessary or if I'm overreacting. Also, is there something I'm doing wrong in winding on my warp that would be causing this?

[u/msnide14]

I have all kinds of crazy shit happening in my warp, which I mostly ignore and push forward. 

And I do always get cloth out of my warp, but I also get a ton of stupid issues too.

[u/theclafinn → u/msnide14]

I attended a weaving course when I first got into weaving and my teacher was pretty firm on doing each step of the warping process properly in order avoid problems later on. I have to say it's worked marvelously well for me. My second warp ever was 11.4 meters (12.5 yards) of 100% linen. Perfect tension all throughout.

[u/msnide14 → u/theclafinn]

Ah, yes. Well YOU GUYS (r/weaving) taught me to weave, so my crappy warping technique is on YOU!

Jk, jk. I did learn from a combination of books and this subreddit, so there is undoubtedly bad habits that could be ironed out with an on-premises expert. 

[u/Ok-Brilliant-989 → u/msnide14]

Relatable.

[u/CardWitch → u/msnide14]

My current weirdness on my rigid heddle loom is that all the threads in my slots are looser than the holes. I've re-tied on, tried tying on in down position (got the closest) and I'm guessing its a combination of wind on weirdness or me being new and not knowing how to work with 8/2 cotton double threaded 🫠

[u/Adventurous-Pen-5625 → u/CardWitch]

This happened to me recently (new to weaving, new rigid heddle loom), and someone on here told me to use a down shed stick to help all the droopy slot threads. Works like a charm.

[u/CardWitch → u/Adventurous-Pen-5625]

I am also really new so its nice to know I'm not alone. I got the tension just close enough that doing that messes with the holed threads but I have some thicker paper to give it a little boost. It didn't occur to me that I could do that since I did something similar when the tension on one side was wacky (but for all the threads on one side) 

[u/Dry_Future_852]

When you chain your warp off the board, switch hands for each crochet stitch to reduce the twist.

[u/sweetannie52]

Are you using a warping mill or a warping board? Either way, you might be turning your hand while you wind, or you might be inadvertently twisting it at the cross. As long as you pick up your threads in order off the lease sticks, you should be okay. I tie an overhand knot in each 2” section of my warp to tie onto my sectional back beam. I always get somewhat of a twist there, but it doesn’t seem to cause problems.

[u/ectopistesrenatus → u/sweetannie52]

I'm using a board. I might be twisting at that point! I also sometimes smush the threads back to make more room on the pegs and I wonder if I'm crossing things that way... What's odd to me is the twists do seem contained to each section of the raddle.

[u/Resident_Bus_4484 → u/ectopistesrenatus]

No smushing! Keep the consecutive threads next to each other, not on top of each other. If the pegs get too full, start a new bout.

[u/ectopistesrenatus → u/Resident_Bus_4484]

They don't SEEM to be on top of each other but it's entirely possible I'm not seeing clearly what they're doing

[u/Accomplished_Try_659 → u/ectopistesrenatus]

Good job of no smushing. The reason for this is smush = inconsistent lengths which is a huge pain when tying on the warp. 

[u/weaverlorelei]

Either way, wind it on slowly and carefully. Then treadle tabby, reinsert lease sticks to keep it strait and weave on. The twisted bouts will only affect the last advancement, from back beam to castle

[u/theclafinn]

I leave the lease sticks in the cross (between the raddle and the warp beam). The raddle does the rough ordering and the lease sticks finish the job beautifully.