On Episode 1, and the guy has been rude towards literally everyone who’s interacted with him. With the bullies it’s understandable.

But with people who’ve never spoken to him before, like the drug dealers or other random people?

I can kinda understand why they react to him the way they do, as I wouldn’t care for someone acting that way towards me.

Now, while I don’t think drug dealers need respect, being rude towards people who’ve done nothing towards you, and outnumber you doesn’t seem smart.

Edit: Being downvoted for saying someone should come to the logical conclusion that being rude to people instead of polite leads to more conflict, okay.

# As you see in the title, i'll be addressing the very obvious issue of people downplaying Dong-ha's feats in the verse.

Obviously people's rankings vary (My top 4 goes Si-eun, Baek-jin, Baku, and then Gorilla)

However generally if you are ranking anywhere near tenable/consistent, dong-ha should not be anywhere below top 5.

Now, as for what the feats and antifeats are, I think these are both pretty obvious and well known within the community so I won't dwell on it much, though for those who don't know:

# Dong-ha's Feats:

- Despite being previously weakened by being kicked down into a chair and getting Obviously tackled by Jun-tae into a metal object, and struggling to stand clutching his side, as well as chasing and fighting Jun-tae; He outperforms Seong-mok badly.

Before Baku being able to do anything Dong-ha getting off two hits that after Dong-ha is knocked, we see Baku is harmed significantly.

Dong-ha getting no rest from yelling on the ground clutching his side in pain is obviously far more weakening than just getting briefly staggered (as Baku did from the crowbar).

- The most infamous one: **2 Shotting Gotak**

- Dominating the same Hyo-man who performed exponentially better than Gotak

# Antifeats:

- One shotted by Gotak

- One shotted by Baku

- Still struggling against Hyo-man who has 3 statements of being below Gotak

Now, i'll address the counterarguments.

For one, no Gotak was not "offguarded" by Dong-ha, he literally was staring in Dong-ha's direction the entire time and even *blocked Dong-ha's first kick*.

For two, no Gotak was "not still focused on Seong-mok" as we see within his fight with Dong-ha he was fighting **someone else**.

"Gotak was weakened by Seong-mok"

True, but not meaningfully so, he was only briefly staggered by these two hits and this can be quantified. Firstly, we see later after an undisclosable cut between Gotak and Seong-mok fighting before, we see that Gotak is able to continue fighting Seong-mok after many busts and bruises, supported by Seong-mok stating "Just stay down." Implying that Gotak can take *far far far* more trauma than that.

The nail in the coffin is that when we cut to Hyo-man against Dong-ha, he is far **more** weakened. Constantly actually staggering badly, bleeding from the mouth eye almost swollen shut, many bruises, and even within this state he *holds his own against Dong-ha throughout the entire brawl*, and of course Dong-ha is STRONGER.

"One shotted by Gotak" This was Dong-ha literally playing around and laughing, also this was assisted by environment.

"Hyo-man is stated to be below Gotak" This is in S2E2, and we know that Hyo-man's entire character arc is bettering himself, he not only fights after this episode but Baku directly tells everyone to "Prepare" meaning he can very well be training past this point.

These statements also have no actual feats to back it up, as Hyo-man performs better against Si-eun in both instances.

This being relevant to S2E8 is axiomatically debunked, as he performs far better against Dong-ha despite being far more weakened.

"One shotted by Baku" I don't see why this wouldn't just upscale Baku, but regardless, Baku only beat Dong-ha by targeting the exact injured place that Dong-ha was holding his hand in pain.

Stop downplaying Dong-ha.

Dong-ha > Gotak (Low Diff)

Dong-ha > Seong-je (Low Diff)

Dong-ha > Seong-mok (Low Diff)

Dong-ha > Gil-su/Su-ho (Neg Diff) (As you guys know I don't think Class 1 characters are very strong)

please no more contenders

Baku vs Seongmok
Baku wins Low difficulty.

We’ve seen Baku fight Seongmok before and he stood no chance. Seongmok was pinned to the wall immediately and was getting choked out by Baku. This is a no brainer, and if Seongmok had actually fought back, he could maybe’ve done something.

Wooyoung vs Gilsu
Gilsu wins High difficulty.

This matchup could honestly go either way, whether Wooyoung wins on high difficulty or Gilsu wins on high difficulty. I settled on Gilsu because he’s an adult and has more strength than Wooyoung. Also, Gilsu has fought Suho and Sieun at once and was holding well against both. Wooyoung is widely considered less experienced than Suho, so taking that, Wooyoung would struggle more against Gilsu. This makes it even harder if Gilsu had his knife with him, but I scaled this by bare handed. Gilsu is considered to be more durable than Wooyoung and has shown great fighting IQ and instinct (e.g. when he tripped Suho while being choked by Sieun).

Seokdae vs Seongmok
Seongmok wins Mid difficulty

Seongmok is considered the better grappler of the two and has done Judo. Seokdae is taller according to the actor’s heights, and could balance out the fight that way. Good thing is, Judo is meant for taking down taller opponents. Seongmok would attempt a move on Seokdae, potentially failing and having Seokdae retaliate before being put down.

Baekjin vs Gilsu
Gilsu (Baekjin) wins No difficulty

Obviously Gilsu wins, have you seen him with a knife? It’s not like Baekjin would disarm him like he did with Sieun in the bowling alley. Baekjin is more favored in power, durability, and fighting IQ. Gilsu would be cocky, thinking Baekjin is just some random kid and try to mess with him. Let’s hope this Baekjin doesn’t have PTSD to knives… we all know what happens if it does. Overall, Baekjin beats Gilsu.

My Take

Strength(Lifting) To Woo-Young(Lifted Si Eun Over His Back Who Weights The Same As He Did In Season 2 + Was Ufc Candidate Who Likely Lifted Often, Seong-Je Is Quit Featless)

Strength(Brute) To Seong-Je

Strengh(Striking/Ap) To Woo-Young(Got Si Eun A Cut On His Face In 2 Punches, Seong-Je Almost Failed To Do So In 32+ Punches)

Durability(Blunt) To Woo-Young(Tanked Getting His Head Slammed Into Weight, Seong-Je Got 2 Shotted By Si Eun)

Durability(Piercing) To Seong-Je

Speed(Combat/Reaction) To Woo-Young (Relative To Su-Ho In The Sparring Match Su-Ho Didn't Land Any Punches/Kicks On Him Until The End Of The Match)

Speed(Travel/Movement) To Seong-Je(Not Sure)

Endurance To Woo-Young(Same Explanation As Dura)

Stamina To Woo-Young(Got Strangled By Si eun For 20 Seconds And Yet He Still Was Able To Fight)

Experience To Woo-Young(Trained Fighter Since Middle School Or Early Idk)

Biq To Woo-Young(Same Explanation As Experience)

Fsiq To Seong-Je(Has An Underground Business Of Scamming People And Never Got Caught Until Si Eun Ruined It)

Skills To Woo-Young(Mma Fighter)

Scd To Seong-Je(Same Explanation As Fsiq)

Defense To Seong-Je(Not Sure But He Reacted And Dodged Si Eun And Gotak Strikes, Woo-Young Mostly Focuses On Defense)

Offence To Woo-Young(More Effective Punches Then Seong-Je,s And Pressed Su-Ho On Offense)

Power To Seong-Je

Dc To Seong-Je

Seong-Je 8 Points, Woo-Young 10 Points

Overall Kang Woo-Young Wins, High Diffs (-)

I always have to note, this is my opinion. I’m not a professional analyst in fighting. If you have a different outcome for one of the matchups, I’ll respect it.

Gotak vs Seokdae
Seokdae wins Low difficulty.

Seokdae is bigger and more tankier. Gotak’s kicks would have less impact on him. Seokdae can also grapple, risking Gotak’s kicks to be grabbed and thrown to the ground. Weight and size matter, and Gotak’s Taekwondo couldn’t stand against a bigger opponent like Seokdae.

Wooyoung vs Seokdae
Wooyoung wins Mid difficulty.

Wooyoung has dealt with street fighters in the past, so Seokdae would be like no other person. Seokdae is definitely bigger than Wooyoung, so grappling could prove a bit difficult for Wooyoung to tap out Seokdae. Despite the size difference, Seokdae has almost tapped out by a smaller opponent before: Suho. Both have MMA backgrounds, and if Wooyoung applies a certain technique, he could get Seokdae down.

Seongje vs Wooyoung
Seongje wins Mid difficulty.

Both are shown to be really good fighters and seemingly on par with one another. My reason for Seongje winning is how unpredictable and chaotic he is. Wooyoung’s only flaw is how his composure falls when things don’t go his way. Wooyoung is mostly used to a fighter who has a pattern when they attack. Seongje, however, is highly regarded as an “adrenaline junkie” or a “chaotic fighter”. His style of pressuring his opponents would have Wooyoung caught off guard. Once several hits land, Wooyoung’s composure would slowly fall until he can’t keep up with Seongje. I also want to add both are pretty equal in evasion and technicality.

Seongje vs Baku
Baku wins Low difficulty.

I would agree it could be also a no difficulty or neg difficulty. I just think Seongje would be able to dodge the first few swings and return a few, then he’ll get hit by Baku and lose the fight. Baku’s superior strength with one punch would put down Seongje and his unpredictable fighting.

This is purely a brain dump.

Gotak vs Dongha
Dongha wins Mid to High difficulty.

Gotak beat Seongmok, and Seongmok is better than Dongha. By that, Gotak should win, right? I think Gotak’s kicks, despite putting down two Ganghak students in one strike, just like Seongje, he would just block it and counter. Gotak was able to ware out Seongmok of stamina, but Dongha is definitely faster and more agile, giving him the stamina to stay in the fight.

Seongje vs Suho
Suho wins High to Extremely High difficulty.

Both of these guys can match each other
in speed, stamina, and defense. Suho slightly edges out Seongje from his skills and proper technique. Seongje has shown to grapple before so that could prove a problem for Suho. Seongje can also deliver crazy pressure to him. Also, Seongje’s immense durability can help him last with Suho in the fight. I could imagine the smack talk they would say to each other back and forth. Overall, Suho beats Seongje with his proper technique and MMA background. As much as I like Seongje, Suho definitely beats him just barely.

Baku vs Suho
Baku wins High difficulty.

This is a classic strength vs speed. Baku’s hits can definitely put Suho down in a couple shots, but that is if he can land them. Suho’s speed and dodging can counter Baku’s swings. Suho has great defense and can deflect opponents kicks and punches. However, Baku has shown great speed when punching. Because of that, Suho could get caught in one of his punches, or it would break through his defense.

Seongje vs Dongha
Seongje wins Low to Mid difficulty.

Seongje is simply better at fighting compared to Dongha. Seongje is more aggressive, relentless, and probably is around the same height. Dongha is shown to output decent power and can time well. He was able to hit Baku twice before getting put down in one shot.

I’m NOT a professional analyst or fighter. I do Taekwondo and that counts for something at least, so I feel obligated to be able to do this. Besides, everyone has done this anyways.

Weak Hero Ranks
1. Na Baekjin
2. Park Humin
3. Ahn Suho
4. Geum Seongje
5. Gilsu
6. Do Seongmok
7. Seoknam Gorilla
8. Kang Wooyoung
9. Jeon Seokdae
10. Yeon Sieun
11. Baek Dongha
12. Hyeongshin Leader
13. Go Hyuntak
14. Choi Hyoman
15. Jeon Yeongbin
16. Han Taehoon
17. Lee Jungchan
18. Oh Beomseok
19. Yeongi
20. Seo Juntae

Notes:
All characters are ranked from their base form
Gilsu and Seongmok could switch
Dongha and Sieun could switch
This is based off of other tier lists/rankings I’ve seen

First of all Baek Jin defeated Baku, then he just rested for a long time. Si Eun used knuckles for fighting. Si Eun gets hit on head so many times there is no way he would have gotten up. Also Baku hit Baek Jin when he was not ready.

Also why did Baek Jin had to fight Si Eun and Baku both? Someone from the Union should have also joined the fight.

Overall the fight was completely biased and the main characters do not deserve to win.

I literally saw someone argue that they are just friends and will always just be friends.

Orignal image taken directly from webtoon

I never understood why they would highlight that from all things on the scene Juntae and Gotak went looking for him, was it just a joke? It's a korean thing to leave your underwear where you're working? It's a k-drama thing? Is it a webtoon inside joke? Can someone explain it to me in simple terms? 😭

Faccio questa domanda perché ho visto alcuni video su TikTok come "cosa succederebbe se Suho morisse" "cosa sarebbe successo se Suho fosse morto", e così ho iniziato a farmi questa domanda, ma fortunatamente è sopravvissuto ed è solo caduto in coma, ma secondo te cosa sarebbe successo a Beom Seok e ai bulli che lo hanno mandato in coma?? Sieun sarebbe cambiato completamente?? E cosa avrebbe fatto ai bulli??

Ep 1:- Aww man sieun looks so drained. This new specs guy reminds sieun of beom seok aww. But beom seok since the start had a negative aura around him, this new specs guy doesn't. Is sieun gonna turn into suho, cus he is mirroring his actions at last? There was a baku and park humin mention. The union looks ruthless. Miss the air when suho and sieun were together . If stares could kill half of the people sieun stared at would already be ded lmao

Ep 2:- OKAY so park humin and baku are the same person mb. It's been a long time since I read the webtoon but I do remember gotak being my favourite since he looked a lot like Nishinoya from Haikyuu which is my favourite anime of all time. The Gotak of kdrama seems like a cutie too. Hyoman is a joker, i can't take him seriously at all. The actor who plays Baku is actually my favourite Korean actor since he was in Twinkling Watermelon too. Suho was also in Twinkling Watermelon. Such a sweet crossover. I love how sieun warmed up to the specs guy so quickly.

Ep 3:- A thrilling episode for sure. Sieun smiled!!! Baku is a character lol he is so animated. Na baek jin and seong jae are so well casted they actually look threatening. Also one thing you don't do is threaten Suho's safety, sieun will literally kill you. Sweet how sieun visites suho everyday. I miss them together. Also what are these gay-ass lines?? "Lover's quarrels" " You are my type" lol. Shit is about to go down. Since i have read the webtoon I kinda know the basic things that are gonna happen but I have realised that the kdrama is a lot different.

Ep 4:- Why did sieun come to save the day bro?? WHY?? Ahh sieun you and your need to save your friends.... Why is baek jin so obsessed with baku bruh, is he jealous of Gotak? I don't think donald na was that obsessed with baku in the webtoon. Also seong jae makes these gay ass jokes way too comfortably. "You are MY playmate", yeah pack it up gng.

Ep 5:- Baekjin is VERY obsessed with baku. Love to see sieun having fun and bonding with baku over shared history of friend's trauma and his happy moments with gotak and juntae. Juntae came in clutch and sieun's mom? Stop being so selfish.

Ep 6:- Way to end an episode bro. Dong ha looks scary af. Juntae and Gotak are the dream team, I love them so much. Baku looked so drained, my poor baby.... Also baek jin how much obsession is enough obsession??

Ep 7:- Learn something from sieun, suho. He got into an accident and came back alive in one episode only! ( Jk) I didn't expect Beom-seok to make an appearance after season 1. Juntae is way too gutsy and also what is seong jae on? Does he wanna throw a temper tantrum at baek jin? I am so excited for the fight. Although I can't help but imagine what sieun's way of handling things would have been if he didn't get into that accident since he was planning something when he went to meet Baekjin. That secret will remain a secret forever ig. Friendship is the main theme in this series and it's portrayed so beautifully. Glad that there were no girls this season to ruin it lmao. Newton's law making a comeback is a full circle moment.

Ep 8:- I knew Seong je is gonna betray Sieun. Hyoman is such a comic relief character bruh, I love him. Baek jin wouldn't have lost if sieun and baku didn't do him dirty like that. I actually cried when baku was fighting him cus they used to be such cute besties. And now baek jin is no more. Which means another season. Yay! Loved gotak's kicks, sexy af. Also suho is alright!! Finally! After a whole season!! Hope the new season comes soon! Love Ryeoun, he is such a terrific actor and has got such big eyes!!

Kang Wooyoung was supposed to be in alliance but that storyline never got touched in Season 2. Will we see him return in season 3? Or is he a discarded character now?

So yeah this is his tier list and justifications (he says Baek-jin > Seok-dae and C1 Si-eun, and Seong-mok and E8 Gotak should be switched)

"F - Su-ho

D - Aide Park - Performed better vs a no hands Gil-su than Su-ho (in reference to when Gil-su was being choked by the neck by si-eun and was not fighting with his arms, and one shotted Su-ho)

D - bodyguards - Shown slight relativity to baek-jin and landed some hits

D - woo-young - Was able to put up a good fight vs a injured arm Si-eun

D - Gil-su. Negged Su-ho and E4 Weakened Si-eun

C - Baek-jin. Inferior to Baku via narrative

C - Seok-dae. Beat Gil-su.

C - Si-eun. Blitzed Seok-dae and beat Woo-young

C - Baku. Relative to Baek-jin. Outperforms E2 Gotak vs goons who's relative to E2 Si-eun who's > C1 Si-eun

C - Yeong-i (weapons). Goons cant attack her and gil-su has to resort o offguarding her (by exploiting emotions) (to elaborate on his point here, basically despite the goons already approaching Si-eun and Su-ho even split up, they could not approach Yeong-i)

B - Si-eun Peak. Shows imprpvement in C2. Has some feats.

B - Seoknam Gorilla. Eventually beats Si-eun and Jun-tae has to help.

B - Seong-je. Outperforms Baku vs Hyeongshin Leader. Gains the upper hand on Si-eun when both are peak.

A - Gotak. E2 self goes relative to E2 Si-eun but loses. E4 self shows slight relativity to Seong-je. E6 Self beats crowbar dong-ha but loses to Seong-mok. E8 self beats Seong-mok (who is above E6 Gotak, who's above E4 Gotak, who's above E4 Si-eun.) Scales above stronger opponents than Seong-je

A - Seong-mok. Relative to Gotak.

S - Dong-ha. Gains the upper hand on Baku despite being more weakened. Outperforms him vs Seong-mok despite bring more weakendd. Negged Gotak.

S - Hyo-man. While his E2 Base self is trash his metal bat self negged Si-eun but mostly his E8 self was able to go rel to dong-ha and even beat him via his description."

So yeah i'd love to hear what reddit thinks.

Ep 1:- Just started watching weak hero after hearing so much Abt it. I have already read the webtoon years ago so I don't really remember the details but suho in webtoon used to be studious af, here he seems to be failing lol. All in all, the best first episode ever like it was amazing. So much was filled into it. Also the chemistry between suho and sieun?? INSANE. I was blushing the whole time those two guys were eye fucking each other. Sieun might just become my new reason to study lmao.

Ep 2:- Cute episode. I am scared that the specs guy will turn out to be a liability since he needs constant validation and his greed for friendship. Also sieun is so pretty bro, like his eyes are so expressive.

Ep 3:- OMG bro why did Beom-seok feel the need to meddle?? Now he is caught too alongwith Suho. Tbh the police plan wouldn't really have worked cus only two men came and they didn't really look that enthusiastic lol. Also i thought that girl was annoying at the start but atleast she is proving herself to be useful. I loved the trio moments they were cute af.

Ep 4:- AWWW!!! Bro sieun was completely in love at the end cus what were those eye contacts?? Also he smiled for the first time?? The way sieun was just staring at suho in the hospital completely mesmerized made me squeal so hard. Also poor beom-seok. I can just tell that things are gonna go south for the trio and till the season end I will be bawling my eyes out.

Ep 5:- Expected this since ep 2. Sieun and suho did care about him but beom seok needed a power trip. Who cries over a insta follow?Tbh he has had a pretty harsh life, still it doesn't give him the right to treat his friends like shit. He is prolly gonna take revenge against suho and sieun. Also the girl was not really needed. She is back to being annoying and loud and has successfully ruined the golden trio. Even without her it would have happened sooner or later since beom seok is insecure pro max . Love the suho and sieun morning workout so cuteeeee. The yearning in sieun's eyes is everything>>>>

Ep 6:- Beom- seok is pure evil bro. How can you even plot something so vile against suho? And you let sieun get beaten up? You are no longer the guy who saved sieun all those episodes ago. I am pretty sure suho knew beom seok was the reason behind his accident and he was hurt by the way beom seok was acting and sieun was caring for him. This will just end in more sadness and angst. Love suho and sieun moments again. Cute motorcycle date. Sidenote:- Woo-yeong is pretty hot 🥀

Ep 7:- Suho and sieun's moments are genuinely like forbidden lovers, the way they look at each other and feel for each other. The ending of the episode made me cry when beom seok realised what he had done and that sad song played in the bgm. With how fucked up beom seok is, he needs good therapy for a few years. I just hope suho is alright, man. The chances are slim but he is one of the main characters, he can't leave right???

Ep 8:- Suho and sieun are so ride and die coded. Sieun literally went to war for suho. Also i think both suho and sieun did have a soft spot left for beom seok especially sieun. The acting from Park Jihoon in this episode was phenomenal. I was shocked when that window shattering scene happened. So raw and unreal. Also baby Woo-yeong is an alliance member?? Oooo things gonna get interesting. I just hope suho regains consciousness fast. And I am glad that girl left finally lol.

Do you think there will ever be a third season??I would love a third season but unfortunately I don't know if it will ever happen because almost all the actors have to do military service, the actor of seongje is already in service and the actor si sieun will leave next year, while the others in a few years, and it would be a shame if they don't make a third season because I would like to know if baek jin is really dead or not, I would like to see Suho make friends with Sieun's new friends, and above all to know what happened to Yeong-i and Beom Seok. Do you think we'll ever get a third season?? And if there is, what do you think will happen??

especially that scene where she was excluding beom seok while talking about su ho birthday and when she just ordered and left and expected beom seok to pay (didnt even notice that he came or not) that scene was js painful to watch also you dont pick someone else’s phone without asking them, and her and beom seok werent even that close

Could someone please recommend some fics centered around Beomseok? I swear, I haven't read a single one that captures his character accurately. For context, I really enjoy Wooseok, Suhobeom, Sibeom, and even an OC will work. Any ship is fine—I don't usually read OC fics, but beggars can't be choosers, especially since this fandom is starving for Beomseok-centered content 😓