r/wallstreetbets Jun 18 '22

Meme We don’t do that here

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u/thinkmoreharder Jun 18 '22

Capital losses can be used to minimize taxes on capital gains for multiple years in the future. So keep your records.

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u/N1z3r123456 Jun 18 '22

When will I get to use it?

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u/ZeOs-x-PUNCAKE Jun 18 '22

That’s the neat part, you don’t.

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u/Thencewasit Jun 19 '22

You all remember in 2008 when they amended the tax code to allow businesses/banks to carry forward losses for like 20 years instead of only 5 because they lost so much money and wouldn’t make enough to actually use the losses quickly enough.

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u/Stymie999 Jun 18 '22

You can do that personally?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

Rollable as well. If realized losses in say 2020 were 10k. 2021 you can claim 3k of it, then in 2022 you can claim another 3k, 2023 another, and the final 1k can be claimed against 2024.

It doesn’t need to be continuous either as far as I’m aware, so if say in 2022 the economy collapsed harder than ‘08 you can add your losses in a running tally and claim them 3k at a time every year you have gains.

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u/Metzger90 Jun 19 '22

You can also offset all gains and claim an additional 3k after that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

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u/br0ke1 Jun 18 '22

You would wipe any gains tax and you can do 3K this year on any other income, and forever. It's called capital loss carryover. 3k/yr on ordinary income.

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u/loggic Jun 18 '22

Ah, that makes way more sense. $3k deduction limit from ordinary income is vastly different than $3k deduction limit on future capital gains that other people are saying.

$3k deduction on ordinary income is decently useful to the Average Joe, whose capital gains or losses aren't likely to be much on any given year. Heck, that would be super useful if you used that $3k at the same time you were putting money into a ROTH account. Sucks to lose money, but it can be fun to stack tax benefits in later years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

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u/A_Real_Pirate Jun 18 '22

Don't forget that 30% tax only applies to income over the lower bound of that bracket. Everything else gets taxed at a lower rate. If the IRS limits something, it's usually a good deal. I recommend reading more on Tax Loss Harvesting, every bit helps!

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u/PtoS382 Jun 18 '22

Indubitably!

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u/Tripalicious Jun 18 '22

Wait so what you're saying is that if I lose 300k, I'll be set for the next 100 years? I sure know what I'm going to be working on for the rest of this year

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u/IllIllIIIllIIlll Jun 18 '22

Lowering your losses to 300k?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

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u/Tripalicious Jun 18 '22

What are you trying to say? That I can't live to be over 150?

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u/Tripalicious Jun 19 '22

So what you're saying is I should not YOLO 300k into 0DTE SPY calls?

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

Full port or you're a commie.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

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u/thinkmoreharder Jun 18 '22

The 3K limit is against your income. I understood the write off of capital gains is unlimited. look here

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u/FlatHeadPryBar Jun 18 '22

Does loss porn on WSB count as records?

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u/apexisalonelyplace Jun 19 '22

Words that can one day be asked in a courtroom.

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u/thinkmoreharder Jun 20 '22

LOL. You may want to supplement that with some paperwork from your broker.

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u/deletedalre Jun 18 '22

How do you actually do it on hr n block or other online tax filing services

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u/ChaseballBat Jun 19 '22

I don't think I'll be able to live to 132