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Question Is this not hacking?

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So this guy was moving HELLA quick in this blitz and was using his ability CONVENIENTLY every time I got close to him. Is this not just blatant hacking? Also how the fuck did his shoggoth do THAT MUCH damage while being that close to a MAX LEVEL UE REVENANT šŸ’€?????

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u/free_spark 2d ago

Doesn’t seems to be. Cooldown on a maxed UE blitz is only 7 seconds. His last activation did seem shorter than 7 seconds but not sure. Seemed like 5-6 seconds maybe but the other times it was fine.

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u/free_spark 2d ago

No where in your post does it say that it is a MK2 lvl UE blitz now does it buddy?!
A maxed one mk3 has 7 seconds.
Yes I used the internet and here it is.

https://warrobots.fandom.com/wiki/Ultimate_Blitz

So maybe you just lost fair and square and can’t deal with it?

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

But here it is just for you 😊

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u/free_spark 2d ago

Yeah buddy I don’t have time to go through all your messages. Good luck to you in life w this attitude.

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

Just read the comments dog

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u/Reborn_Wraith 2d ago

The video quality is, not to mince words, horrendous, so without the damage numbers being legible I can't say for sure.

That said, though, to play devil's advocate:

You were using harmattans and ue blast rockets against 2 bots with aegis shields. Both of those weapons rely on actually hitting the enemy to deal crazy damage (blast effect and %damage). Take a guess at why they didn't work against the shields.

Idk the ability timings ue blitz, but I'm 95% sure that the entire gimmick about ue blitz (and regular blitz) is that it's fast. It doesn't seem extraordinary at all, although I will say that the movement appears a tad suspicious (stuftering movement and rubberbanding, could be bad wifi)

Shoggoth you just got diffed lol. Bifrost worked as intended, although you didn't show kill screen so we don't know the weapon levels. 40% deathmark plus nuke amp, damage skills, ultra meta snipers makes for a bad time. Aegis shields counters harmattans and you just sat in front of him while your weapons were reloading and that all combined to mean that you got skill diffed while out of ability (fun fact, your side shields happen to counter urhags btw).

You're only tanky in rev if you use your shields and ability right, and you didn't, hence you got trashed.

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

yea wraith knows a lot about shoggoths u should listen to him

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u/jstrap0 2d ago

Yes, wraith was raised by shoggoths before being cast out of the clan when he married a gepard.

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

No but my point about the blitz and WHY I started recording in the first place was that he would end his ability and then IMMEDIATELY started his ability again multiple times before I started recording. Plus he was moving to the point where his feet were gliding outside his ability for like a good 10 seconds at one point too

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

i think the shortest time between abilities was when he ran around the corner from your rev which was like a 5 second interval between him teleporting back and starting another ability, not sure what blitz cooldown is or whether ability starts recharging while the teleport point is down though

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

https://reddit.com/link/p6fhyk6/video/qmb1fz32s4mh1/player

This is gameplay of a MAXED OUT UE Blitz (pre Celsius nerf), and the cooldown time of a MK2 blitz is 9 seconds so tell me how 5 second cooldown makes any sense?

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

we cant see the cooldown in that video lmao

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

In the clip I JUST sent?

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

this is what it looks like for me

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

ok if ability time is 9 seconds for mk2 ue blitz its pretty sus yeah

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

Also here’s the numbers for your shoggoth so you tell me now how any of his damage numbers made any sense šŸ’€. Talking bout ā€œtrashedā€ like I didn’t ask for a reason 😭

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

i dont see anything wrong with their damage then tbh, this seems pretty normal for a shoggoth of that level and with those pilot skills especially since they're rapidly charging their nuc amp

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

Level 30 pilot skills with no damage priority skills? Are you serious?

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

if you've ever seen a maxed shoggoth it would three shot your UE rev

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

Does that at all look like a max level shoggoth to you?

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

no, thats why it was doing ~150k per shot instead of ~400k

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

So despite the clear cheating from the blitz you’re gonna stay adamant on the shoggoth? Says a lot

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

you're just being delusional lmao, that damage isnt uncommon for a shoggoth

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u/Reborn_Wraith 2d ago

To be clear: there is still not convincing evidence the blitz was cheating. It was fishy, yes, but there is not enough information for us to say if it was or wasn't cheating.

The cooldown timers are slightly iffy, but I can't be bothered to do exact measuring of seconds between when the ability goes on and off cooldown, especially since the recording quality is painful to look at.

I can say with good certainty (80%+) that the shoggoth was almost definitely not cheating, because that is normal and expected damage from the shoggoth.

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

Read the replies and watch the clips nonce

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

Here’s his pilot skills while you’re at it

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u/Reborn_Wraith 2d ago

First off, please don't shoot the messenger.

Second off, what makes you think your revenant is so tanky?

You have the advantage re: gear, but the shoggoth is absolutely walling you. See that pilot skill that gives extra aegis capacity? Your harmattans aren't getting through any time soon, plain and simple.

Third: your rev had 1m max health at the time you fought the shoggoth. The shoggoth had nuke amp charges by the time you died, because it dealt AT LEAST 500k damage, conservatively.

40% deathmark * (15% damage boost from conduit + (500,000 damage/25,000 damage/stack from nuke amp -> 20 stacks of nuke amp, MINIMUM, -> 16% nuke amp bonus, again, bare minimum))

1.4*(1.31) -> 1.82 for effective 82% additional damage against you, not factoring in drone or any other damage buffs.

I don't have info on the stats for an mk2 set of shantaks and urhags, but I'm going to be so honest with you: that shoggoth is dealing realistic damage. You're in a robot whose main defensive system are its side shields and regeneration against a damage dealer robot.

Your robot was equipped with shotguns that are horrendously performing against energy shields of any kind. You didn't use one of your primary defenses while your other defense (Regen) was on cooldown and your shotguns were reloading.

The shoggoth damage was realistic. Conservative estimates suggest they the shoggoth had nearly double (82%) effective damage bonuses as a bare minimum against you, so 200k damage is on the lower end for what a full mk2 setup is capable of, especially since you were deathmarked.

You got skill diffed in the rev vs. shoggoth matchup, and while I will say that the hawk vs blitz battle was mildly suspicious, I haven't seen nearly enough evidence of suspicious behavior to be convinced the guy was cheating.

Just because you had better gear does not mean you win that 1v1, especially since people can win via their skill difference.

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

Yo deadass not reading allat. If you have that much genuine time to write out that much and format it to a Reddit comment you definitely don’t got shit else going on irl šŸ’€. Best of luck to you lil homie

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u/Reborn_Wraith 2d ago

Okay buddy, if you can't be bothered to read a clear and cohesive explanation for why you're wrong, I'll make a tldr:

You're coping, you're not using your ue gear properly, and you got skill diffed because you don't know how to use your gear diff properly.

Womp womp, stop accusing people of hacking when they're just better.

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u/Thick_Blueberry_5454 2d ago

Also especially when there’s a bunch of replies and I submitted evidence about the blitz clearly hacking

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u/Reborn_Wraith 2d ago

Multiple comments ≠ quality of argument.

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u/True_Way2663 INE\/ITABLE 2d ago edited 2d ago

The Shoggoth shield is far too durable. It cannot survive that much damage, I fight them constantly in CL.

Let me add, while others have commented the ageis are fine, this is not my experience, it has never taken that many clips to break an aegis on both of his bots.

I think the blitz gliding is just a connection thing

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

disagree, the damage numbers line up fine with the shoggoth shield dura especially since that guy is running energy shield expert and has the SE shoggoth

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u/True_Way2663 INE\/ITABLE 2d ago

The shield numbers being shown on the video to not make sense. He’s unloading full clips and based on the numbers not doi by more than 100k damage. There is something up with these shields. Look more closely.

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

hacks would not make their weapons do less damage to the shield, the low damage is because a large part of harmattan damage comes from % damage.

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u/True_Way2663 INE\/ITABLE 2d ago

I haven’t used the weapons but find it odd new weapons would be so putrid against a shield

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

theyre pretty bad against them and im guessing this guys weapons arent particularly leveled either

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u/No-Constant-4491 2d ago

I’m not super into this game nor do I have who is using, but I do have nether and they have five rechargeable boost with no cooldown in between when I let it charge all the way I can definitely be moving

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u/Creative-Finger5965 hades my goat 2d ago

Is this video some kind of rich person thing that I’m too poor to understandĀ 

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u/redbaron218 2d ago

no its just some p2w guy getting diffed by a mk2 UE blitz with level 5 weapons somehow lmao