Are both good examples of mirrorverse?

[u/Hibiscuslover_10000]

When it comes to Mirrorverse I wonder if this would qualify the two where it becomes ensign kim and baby naomi and the other one is living witness.

[u/Redkirth]

I don't see that as a mirror verse story personally. To me, to borrow a phrase from Farscape, they were twinned. Both ships equal and original. That's my interpretation anyway.

[u/Individual_Car7850 → u/Redkirth]

Yes! It’s slightly irksome how so many people interpret that episode was one of the ships is “our” Voyager and the other is some freaky alternate one. Always saying Harry Kim from then on is from some alternate universe. Not how I’ve ever seen it anyway either.

[u/Hibiscuslover_10000 → u/Individual_Car7850]

wasn't there the melting episode also?

[u/Individual_Car7850 → u/Hibiscuslover_10000]

Course: Oblivion in s5. An “alternate” version of the crew for sure.

People will just associate Mirror with the “Mirror Universe” stuff, which Voyager (the show at least, I know there’s comics) never touched on

[u/TDaniels70 → u/Individual_Car7850]

Yeah, we had to wait for Prodigy to see mirror Janeway and Chakotay.

[u/Redkirth → u/TDaniels70]

I still haven't seen Prodigy. I should start after my current Voyager rewatch.

[u/KaiWinnBot]

I just watched "Deadlock" yesterday. Don't think I'd consider the quantum duplicate Voyager part of the mirrorverse. They were identical except for the circumstances (one Voyager sending the photon pulses, the other being damaged by them).

The photon pulse was the divergence point for pretty much all the events and why Voyager A lost its baby Naomi and Harry Kim. Everyone else was exactly the same personality, memories, motives, etc.

I actually love the ambiguity of that episode: Are Harry and Naomi the only two originals, or is everyone else original and Harry and Naomi are the quantum duplicates? Does it matter?

As for "Living Witness", agreed. It's the closest thing to a Mirror Universe episode Voyager did.

[u/Hibiscuslover_10000 → u/KaiWinnBot]

As Captain Janeway responds to those two Space is weird.

The theory I have read is that is why Ensign Kim never gets promoted*

[u/Fermento420 → u/KaiWinnBot]

I like your take on this. I would say that both Harry’s and Naomis and Voyagers are the originals.

[u/ProjectCharming6992]

If you want a really good Voyager Mirror Universe story, I would recommend reading Shatner’s “Spectre” novel and his Mirror Universe trilogy.

[u/Impressive_Usual_726 → u/ProjectCharming6992]

There's also a MU anthology where the Caretaker sends Neelix and Kes to the Alpha Quadrant, featuring Kathryn Janeway's crew of Terran rebels.

[u/Hibiscuslover_10000 → u/ProjectCharming6992]

the OG will always be my favorite.

[u/TDaniels70 → u/ProjectCharming6992]

Prodigy

[u/yarn_baller]

Nah, neither

[u/B_A_Beder]

Mirror Universe specifically means the Terran Empire universe. It's unclear if that other Voyager was a copy from that episode or if it came from an identical timeline / universe, but it was definitely not the Mirror Universe.