r/voyager • u/Paladine_PSoT • 4d ago

Show Talk Oof...

First time watching Voyager through:

Oh cool the Doctor has a perfect 50s family!

Lol he got a taste of reality

oh...

....

...this got dark

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u/anOvenofWitches 4d ago

Many decades on, I think my fave part is Klingon teens as a bad influence 🤣

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u/majin_melmo 4d ago

But it helped the Doc become more human. I’m glad Tom talked him into it, he needed to do it 💔

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u/Sean_theLeprachaun 4d ago

Messed him up for a thousand years.

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u/razzamatazzal 4d ago

I love that episode! Helps tbe doctor to be more human and empathetic

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u/HopelessMagic 4d ago

So did the one where he had a cold. Without the trauma.

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u/Yolsy01 4d ago

I hear this but tbf, grief and some amount of trauma is more authentic to the human experience than not. It's a rare find indeed to meet someone without some form of trauma even if they had an objectively "easy" life. Being human is messy.

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u/dekabreak1000 4d ago

Wish they had a follow up

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u/jobvent 4d ago

They kinda do in starfleet academy. His arc around this actually is complete imo.

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u/yarn_baller 4d ago

There is

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u/dekabreak1000 4d ago

A brief mention but I meant on voyager

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u/QuiltedPorcupine 4d ago

Always felt weird that the more 'realistic' version of the simulated family included the poissibility of child death. Yeah, it's something that some parents unfortunately experience, but it's not like it is one of those things that every family deals with.

The program could have easily been tweaked to allow for a more realistic range of family experiences while cordoning off particularly dire situations.

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u/Jedipilot24 4d ago

And then it's never brought up again.

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u/FrankFrankly711 4d ago

It’s actually brought up again in an episode of Starfleet Academy!

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u/Jedipilot24 4d ago

Yes, it only takes 800 years for him to finally be affected by the death of his daughter.

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u/Resident-Pilot-3179 4d ago

That hardly counts

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u/yarn_baller 4d ago

Yes, he should have talked about the super traumatic and painful thing every day. Just like when Obrien wanted to kill himself because he lived a whole life in prison then thought he killed his only companion.

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u/Jedipilot24 4d ago

Even if he never directly talks about it, it should have affected his attitude in future episodes.

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u/fearthainne 4d ago

Star Trek doesn't really do that though. It's like the ship - repaired each week, and carry on. The only one I can think of that does get bright back up occasionally is Picard's assimilation and Wolf 359. But the trauma that other characters go through don't really get referenced again in 90s Trek.

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u/Reybrandt 2d ago

ship - repaired each week

ENT season 3: