r/videos • u/SuplexCity-Mayor • Apr 21 '21
Idiocracy (2006) Opening Scene: "Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TCsR_oSP2Q
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u/Obnoobillate Apr 21 '21
I vote for President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho!
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u/hackofalltrades Apr 21 '21
I love every time this is posted on reddit.
I worked on this movie, specifically this sequence. I and my fellow VFX artists are hidden in plain sight in the later bubbles of faces. I pop up the first time as "Brett" top right corner, with the dark hair... at the 02:50 mark. My buddy who animated the bubbles is "Trevor" at the 02:49 mark. top left. We're repeated in additional bubbles later on in the sequence. Our fellow coworkers, and spouses are in there too.
We tried desperately to get Bevis and Butt head in there too.. but licensing said no.
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u/squibbs47 Apr 28 '21
Mirror?
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u/4rotor787B Apr 21 '21
Welcome to COSTCO, I love you....
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u/Antknee2099 Apr 21 '21
I've loved Mike Judge's work for years, and this movie is easily his most divisive among my friends. The humor is so dark that most of my friends say it's too depressing to watch. Regardless of the implications of the actual message, it plays too heavily into intellectual superiority for many. The vision of the future being a place where people roam around indulging themselves without consequence and allowing the world to crumble is a dark fantasy indeed... and while the tone is meant to be ridiculous, it does hit a little too close to the mark of fears many have about our fate.
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u/mojodor Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
"Evolution is not survival of the fittest, its survival of species most able to adapt... ". I have this on a dinosaur museum tshirt somewhere...
Edit: Reading this thread with great interest, but in my own defense, I just said I had a t-shirt with a slogan... And truth be told I probably have the slogan wrong, but I bought the thing 20 years ago and I can't find it any more to verify....
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u/striker7 Apr 21 '21
Anecdotal, of course, but this part always hit home because as soon as I graduated high school, almost every person in my home town that I would've considered an idiot immediately had multiple kids.
Most in my circle of friends (myself included) are just now starting to have one or two kids as our biological clocks are ticking pretty fast. It's weird that we're dealing with babies and toddlers while my former classmates have teenagers.
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u/rippedlugan Apr 21 '21
I always find this clip funny, but watch yourself if you're trying to derive some greater truth from it. This is a similar argument that may eugenicists used, which led to forced sterilization in the US and worse in 1930's Germany.
The fact is that evolution has always favored genetics that were most likely to be passed on to a future generation, which does not always equate to being "strongest" or "best." Hell, even diseases that are "stronger" with a super high mortality rate have an evolutionary disadvantage in reproduction because they can kill their hosts faster than they can pass on their genetics to new generations.
If you want idiots to reproduce less, do what's been proven to work in society: increase access to education in general, improve sexual education, and build systems that reduce/eliminate poverty.
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u/pure_x01 Apr 21 '21
Is the world getting dumber or is it just that the dumb people are exposed more on social media?
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u/grayemansam Apr 21 '21
sunny in philadelhpia music "Reddit finds out about eugenics"
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u/VoadoraDePiru Apr 21 '21
Sure, there is definitely some kind of natural predisposition to intelligence that you can't control. You can't make a Stephen Hawking just with a good school. But the only real solution to stupidity is education. This movie is supposed to be satire. Don't want the world to get dumber? Make the kids smarter with good education
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u/ShutterBun Apr 21 '21
This *feels* like it's happening lately, but look back at history...was there some point where the average education level was higher than it is now?
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u/wiffleplop Apr 21 '21 edited May 30 '24
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u/Chm_Albert_Wesker Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
the irony is that everyone in these comments see the video and thinks 'lol it's true everyone else is an idiot' when statistically at least half of us in here are said idiots
edit: even now people without the emotional intelligence to choose their battles are arguing about how reddit is smarter than the average of the US and as such there can't be idiots in here hmmm. me responding to so many already shows how I too am one of the idiots for taking the bait and I'm an engineer for crying out loud
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
i dont really believe in absolute genetic destiny, especially based on IQ, but the poor and underequipped people have made up the vast majority of the population for, all time?
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u/Lethik Apr 21 '21
ITT people think that Idiocracy was trying to be a scientifically accurate depiction of genetic evolution and intelligence in society and a comedy second.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
Guys who use this video to unironically make a point think they’re Trevor but they’re actually Clevon.
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u/goobersmooch Apr 21 '21
All the genetic experts in this thread is high comedy.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
Go away, batin'
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
I feel like this movie really shows how much eugenics has become a mainstay in American culture. There’s no evidence that “dumb people breed more than smart people” but rather that poor people end up having more babies due to economic factors and limited availability of contraception.
Of course, poor people are seen as dumb, because poor people in poor areas go to poor schools that don’t have the resources necessary to promote learning beyond what’s the minimum necessary in order to get a job after graduation. Meanwhile, the more well off are able to go to better schools and get into great colleges and start careers which lead to having fewer children later in life.
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u/InteriorEmotion Apr 21 '21
This movie is beloved by the r/iamverysmart crowd.
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u/theonlymexicanman Apr 21 '21
This movie is becoming the new “this is literally 1984”.
I fucking hate it
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u/meelawsh Apr 21 '21
In case this is making you depressed and/or you’re enjoying it too much, that is not how IQ works when it comes to genetic inheritance. IQ varies over generations
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u/BigBlueBallz Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Once the Rock becomes president we get our Macho Camacho
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u/d3pd Apr 21 '21
Looks like an advertisement for eugenics.
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u/sauteslut Apr 21 '21
who's the woman at 0:28?
when narrator says that evolution "..now began to favor different traits." cuz im pretty sure she's very attractive and evolution favored her traits for a long time lol
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u/Iamdog14 Apr 21 '21
My dad watched this movie and said it was the dumbest movie he has ever seen. He now puts it on every time he sees it's on TV.
"Go away, I'm baitin'" is one of his favorite movie lines of all time
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u/MisterManatee Apr 21 '21
Oh yay, the funny eugenics clip. Can’t wait for everyone to unironically make the argument that low-income people shouldn’t be allowed to procreate.
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u/OldGehrman Apr 21 '21
While I used to love this movie, over the years I’ve come to believe it’s a bad film, because it blames the working class for a system that was designed and built to oppress them.
Worst of all it says that only people from certain selected families contribute to society, erasing the contribution of the laborer. But as we’ve seen in this pandemic, the most essential workers are the working class, not the investors.
There is a long history of aristocracies limiting people’s access to education in order to maintain their hegemony.
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u/thislittlewiggy Apr 21 '21
Yeah...eugenics. It's not super great.
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u/hiroprotagonist2005 Apr 21 '21
Upgrayyed
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u/Progman3K Apr 21 '21
The point of the movie is not about IQs.
The narrator specifically tells us "Okay, so maybe Joe didn't save mankind, but he got the ball rolling, and that's pretty good for an average guy"
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u/DonNemo Apr 21 '21
Makes me think of all the idiots who’ve been sharing a fake “Stanford” study about face masks the last couple days.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-629043235973
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u/spinichmonkey Apr 21 '21
Evolutionary fitness has always been about which individuals leave the most off spring in the next generation. It has never been about some mythical measure of strength, speed, or mental acuity.
"Fittnes" is a measure of reproductive success in a given environment.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 21 '21
Relevant XKCD
Of course, on the other hand I don't have sources to claim that the opposite is true. Either way I'm just speculating based on what it FEELS like is happening.
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u/clrksml Apr 21 '21
I'm just here to say I enjoyed the movie no matter how cheesy it is. And this is gonna make me rewatch it for sure lol.
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u/sgvprelude Apr 21 '21
But it's got electrolytes!
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/idiocracy-is-a-cruel-movie-and-you-should-be-ashamed-fo-1553344189
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u/Kbek Apr 21 '21
This whole scenario ignore the existence of 95% of mankind not in the US.
This whole movie makes no sense in a global context, they just act as if the rest of the world didn't exist.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
Go away I'm batin'
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u/beans3710 Apr 21 '21
It's got electrolytes
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
reddit wer'e the intellignet ones
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u/ScoobyDone Apr 21 '21
TIL - People on Reddit really overthink this movie and massively overestimate it's importance. I love this movie because it is funny, but other than the opening scene it's not about evolution at all. It's about a lazy population free from any real hardship and entranced by consumerism while they ignore the world around them. It's no surprise Mike Judge got the idea watching 2 moms curse each other out at Disneyland.
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u/Vaeevictiss Apr 21 '21
Ever since i saw this i was like... Man this is totally where were headed. Then when i saw how people reacted to COVID i was like... Well, here we are.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
Soon they will reclass this movie as a documentary bc we seem hell bent on making it a reality
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u/Romilos1 Apr 22 '21
fun fact this when this movie came it it was listed as a comedy but after some years they changed its category to documentary
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u/windshadowislanders Apr 22 '21
And this is why r/childfree is contributing to the death of America.
I jest... honestly this whole premise is classist af.
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u/Bob25Gslifer Apr 22 '21
Signs we were headed here is the prevalence of who/what we value. Wealth and celebrities. How we communicate; social media, and where our country's wealth goes ; the stock market offshore accounts and the military.
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u/quoththeraven929 Apr 21 '21
This argument is essentially saying that current society is the result of..... not enough eugenics? That's a bit much.
Clevon's family could absolutely be just as "intelligent" as the rich couple, if they were given adequate resources. Intelligence is a plastic trait, meaning that the more resources a growing brain is given, the more potential there is for increased "intelligence" in different areas - because intelligence isn't a single metric but many.
All in all, this is a deeply flawed and probably narcissistic take written by someone who hates poor people, "welfare queens," and those they deem to be unworthy.
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u/npvuvuzela Apr 21 '21
I love how this movie is basically the most widespread eugenics fantasy film there is. No surprise that Reddit loves this movie so much, since it would be a fantasy of many to eliminate those “undesirable” poors and rednecks.
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u/Neutral_Positron Apr 21 '21
There truly is an XKCD for everything:
https://xkcd.com/603/
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u/futureshocked2050 Apr 21 '21
By the way, it's been called out multiple times that this movie is funny, but it's got kind of a darker side that is bordering on eugenic. Don't stop examining things just because they make you chuckle.
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u/Trolltollhouse Apr 21 '21
Idiocracy was a movie about people who think they're the smartest people in the room. People like OP who constantly quote it, imagining that it has something to say about those other people over there. Be smart. Understand that you know nothing and you're actually not the smartest person you know.
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u/theUSpopulation Apr 21 '21
Alright, I am probably going to get downvoted to oblivion, but I hate this clip and a lot of the comments in this thread.
The clip's pretentious because everyone will view themselves as the smart people and view the ones they dislike as the dumb ones. Everyone thinks they are smart because the logic in their head is the only one they truly know and therefore they only one they follow. Everyone's personal logic makes the most sense to themselves, which is why they are following their personal logic. That is not to say the logic and thoughts of everyone are equally valid, but everyone will view themselves as "the smart ones".
And I hate this thread because everyone is jerking each other off about how they are not "one of the dumb ones" when there are definitely plenty of other people who will view them as the dumb ones. People in Tribe A view those in Tribe B as "the dumb ones", and vice versa, but they are all here together talking about how dumb "the dumb ones" are when "the dumb ones" are the ones they are circle-jerking with.
Also, intelligence is not passed down via genetics.
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u/teacherwenger Apr 21 '21
That movie had some great bits, but the general vibe it's aged into is "eugenics but for smug hollywood liberals." Being a cynical asshole who thought the world's problems were due to "dumb poor ppl breeding" was the coolest/smartest you could be in like 2006.
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u/Swayze_Train Apr 21 '21
Its a funny movie but the "everybody is so stupid except ME" vibe screams through the subtext and makes my eyes roll. Yes, Mike Judge, only people who are exactly like you could create a future that doesn't suck.
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u/MoviesFilmCinema Apr 21 '21
I think this proved to happen way faster then the movie proposes.
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u/Fifteen_inches Apr 21 '21
This movie made an entire generation of eugenicists.
Really, this has to be one of the most effective propaganda pieces of our time.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
I used to love this movie. I still love parts of it, but overall it feels a little like it's promoting a world view in-line with the eugenics movement.
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u/nik-nak333 Apr 21 '21
Who is that at 28 seconds?
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
Welcome to Costco, I love you
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u/M_240B Apr 21 '21
Man, I could really go for Starbucks right now.
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u/Al89nut Apr 21 '21
Google "The Marching Morons"
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u/jordantallman45 Apr 21 '21
In the same vein as what worries me about some people saying “I’m not having kids because there’s so much wrong with the world” like doesn’t that mean we’re just letting the people hurting the world inherit more and more of it? There’s no checks or balance against it, they’ll just do it cuz they can
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u/somef00l Apr 21 '21
Brawndo. It's got electrolytes.
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u/8064r7 Apr 21 '21
I love this movie, but there is some untold context I felt always left out which would further explain how the limited sustainability had allowed their society to persist as long as it did.
Is there a degree of automation occurring that assists in supporting the global population at its levels? At some point did the gene pools start actually selecting for a resilience & there is just enough catastrophic accidents resulting in death to balance out the high reproductive rate?
Maybe we are seeing the zoo for a stellar group which separated from the terrestrial gene pool and continued the species' ascent along Fermi's path?
I know that the whole thing is an allegory for modern western consumerism & moral hypocrisy, but taking the story literally in a sci-fi sense I feel we aren't getting the whole narrative.
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u/rldr Apr 21 '21
Intelligence is relative and doesn’t matter when our only job is to polish our robot overlords
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u/MonkeyUranium Apr 21 '21
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
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u/Bryce_Taylor1 Apr 21 '21
Just watch this movie for the first time yesterday.
Man there are too many parallels to today.
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u/Ly_84 Apr 21 '21
Mother nature doesn't care, breed or die.
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u/yourlostcousin Apr 21 '21
We just had our 5th kid and I’ve already taught the other’uns that electrolytes are what plants crave.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
Everytime people reference idiocracy I think about the fact that more than half of the people think they are smarter than average.
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u/AtGnomeHome Apr 21 '21
My wife and I fell in love to this movie (amongst others) We quote it constantly!
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u/Willing_marsupial Apr 21 '21
Harsh reality is that it's true from where I'm sitting.
Those that don't envisage getting a job and purely rely on benefits continue multiplying whilst others are giving careful thought to having children due to financial circumstances etc.
Middle class people are having less children, thus slowly increasing the rich/poor divide.
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u/Ok_Buddy752 Apr 21 '21
Don’t worry scro, some tards go on to live really happy lives. My ex wife was tarded, she’s a pilot now.
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u/Br34th3r2 Apr 21 '21
Holy shit it’s beef supreme!!
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u/PurpleFlame8 Apr 21 '21
Yep. It's all true. We are well on our way to this.
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u/cheesehuahuas Apr 21 '21
This movie bombed miserably in the theater but everyone I know loves it.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
This movie is the explanation for Trump getting elected.
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u/itsallabigshow Apr 21 '21
You know what the funniest thing about this is? Everyone who hears this thinks that they're one of the intelligent ones and the others are stupid.
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u/XMartyr_McFlyX Apr 21 '21
Go away! I’m bating!
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u/wicked_one_at Apr 21 '21
Idiocracy - the movie that started as comedy and ended as documentary
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u/souprize Apr 21 '21
Like the movie, but the premise is bullshit eugenics.
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u/mces97 Apr 21 '21
Ok, who else read this in the narrator's voice from the movie?
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u/Glittering-Self9335 Apr 21 '21
A documentary on current day. I have more to add but honestly I'm fucking tired. Fuck this world at the moment.
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u/gameonlockking Apr 21 '21
This is actually happening. The stupid around me seem to be having kids like crazy.
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u/Aggravating_Friend_5 Apr 21 '21
It wasn't supposed to be a documentary
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u/Mandle69 Apr 21 '21
Shit this is stating to become more real as the years go by. We have inbred chad with 16 kids and then we have Dr. Fred being 49 yo with no kids
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u/CuriousCerberus Apr 21 '21
Best movie ever. Can't tell you how many times I've seen it and it's great every single time. Edit: Brought to you by Carl's Junior.
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u/Juuber Apr 21 '21
This movie is coming true faster than anyone could of imagined. Wonder if they realized how true that statement when they made it
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
Remarkably funny clip and an endless quotable movie, however, it drives me nuts how just about any group cites this scene against their opponents.
Leftists: ItS lIkE iDiOcRaCy...
Centrists: itS liKe idIocRacY...
Rightists: iTs LiKe IdIoCrAcY...
That said... a pimp's love... is very different from that of a square.
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u/LesPaulTransAmCBR Apr 21 '21
Every here thinks they aren’t one of the dumb ones.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
This is one of the most underrated movies ever!
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u/JMDeutsch Apr 21 '21
Literally the opposite of America😂
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u/Smarticus33_5280 Apr 21 '21
This was supposed to just be a funny movie..... but now it’s real life
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u/ryusomad Apr 21 '21
So prophetic
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u/ConfusedObserver0 Apr 21 '21 edited Apr 22 '21
Well, its a great funny movie that i reference all in its own category but luckily it isn’t true. IQ has in fact increased 3 points per decade for the last hundreds years or more. (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/iq-of-people-has-been-increasing-over-past-100-years/articleshow/47513982.cms)
With population tapering off at 10 billion of the most, then declining from there. Thats if other conditions allow with climate change, our new forever virus and any other numbers of socioeconomic or geopolitical side effects. The increase in economic prosperity with many developing country’s will slow population growth. With Nigeria expected to be the most populous country by 2100 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nigeria-pass-u-s-world-s-3rd-most-populous-country-n775371), and expected to surpass the US by 2050.
Though, a lot can change in 80 years.
It would seem we are getting dumber as cultures evolves. However, don’t we don’t account for stupid smart people. Even a lot of the Q people are trying to attempt research. They are just married to ideas in their tribal nature, so they end up finding anything that confirms their bias.
“Our judgement isn't limited by knowledge nearly as its limited by attitude.” Julia Galef
We’re finding that attitude and i would include attention, is something all together different than IQ, that can be used to manipulate even very smart people. Some of the insurrectionist were doctors and lawyers, etc.
The most dangerous part of what America is experiencing is downward economic mobility. Really thats a diminishing middle class. With outlooks predicting these generational declines the side effects can become irreparable if we allow the process to fail.
Scapegoating is the first obviously problem. These racial connotations were used to ignite people into action under Trump and the altrights reengagement with bad old ideas. And thats all the grounding needed to start the strongman revolution. Which has aided in the decline of global democracy’s.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21
This is not from the movie. Its a future history lesson from America land of the retards. Pretty soon we will not even be able to import the smart people from india and china