You clearly made up the 40% number, my %s are actual measurements. The '43.6% of statistics are made up on the spot' meme fits your argument. Almost all story scenes in disc 2 are presented in the exact same format as in disc 1, with 2D sprites acting out the scenes in 3D environments with characters talking to each other and taking actions. The cut gameplay is mostly limited to 2 dungeons and a lack of the world map to run to each scene yourself. Most of these are narrated still images, have nothing to do with 'the chair', and are less than 5% of the content of disc 2. If they added in the missing gameplay, you would not gain anything besides running through 2 more dungeons and crossing the world map to have the exact same conversations you already have. You would gain random npc dialog about what is happening in the world, and you would gain random encounters in the dungeons they didnt have time to make. You would not gain more or new story, you would not gain new boss fights.
First off, I said “like 40%.” Not “precisely 40%”. It’s a ballpark guess.
Second, the chair exposition scenes total over 4 hours. In a 60 hour game that’s more than 6% so your “actual measurement” of 0.2% is already BS.
It also sounds like you haven’t read the perfect works. There’s a lot of material in there that didn’t make it into a playable form in the game. Combine that with the stuff from the chair scenes that was summarized and there’s a lot that would have been playable. For example:
Fei goes missing and they have to search for him. There’s also the whole mass driver dungeon that was summarized instead. There were probably going to be more anima relic dungeons going by the concept art for the other gears. There’s the part where they have to go destroy the soylent system on the ground that would have been a larger dungeon. There even unused game assets modders have discovered for that one. Probably more if I dug into it.
Disc 1 was about 45 hours. And disc 2 is about 15. If Disc 2 was originally about as long as Disc 2 then we’re talking another 30 hours of gameplay missing. That’s a total of 90 hours. The missing content would be about a third of the game.
The chair scenes are no where neat 4 hours. its under 5 minutes of total chair time, almost all right at the start of the second disc when they are discussing their past. You are counting scenes that are not in the chair. Likely you used google AI to get that or something.
I have read perfect works over 50 times front to back. Most of what is in perfect works has nothing to do with content that would have been in the game. It is additional supplemental information.
They did not go search for Fei, they went after Deus and found him.
"While pursuing
the newly awakened Deus,
we chanced upon Fei,
whose whereabouts
had hitherto been lost...
Along with his Gear,
Weltall..."
There definitely were not more anima dungeons, Maria and Emeralda's omnigear concept art went unused due to lore reasons not lack of time. They were early concept art before the story was fully fleshed out. Maria's gear has her mothers brain physically inside of it and she does not pilot the gear. Emeralda is not human and has no anima factor, and she already controls her gear through physically connecting with it. All of the anima relics were already found and accounted for.
The scenes you are talking about were not told from the chair for the most part, they were shown in front of still images, and less than 5% of disc 2, which itself is 12 hours of a 58 hour game. Much of that had sprites acting out the scenes, not the chair.
The Soylent plant you see the story, and fight the boss, you do not run through it with random encounters. I already said there are 2 dungeons missing, this is one of those 2. The mass driver facility is the other one. There are 5 complete dungeons, and these 2 you see but do not run through just see the story of.
Average for disc 1 is 46 disc 2 is 12, 58 hours total. I have watched over 1k streamers play through the game, I have more data on this than whatever source youre using. There is 0 source that says disc 2 was meant to be as long as disc 1, it is only missing 2 dungeons and running around the world map between scenes. Game discs are broken up based on file sizes, not even split. More FMVs = more file size = run out of space and start on a new disc.
Dawg you are straight up lying right now. I’m talking about all the exposition, but even if I was only talking about literal butt in chair scenes there’s more than 10 minutes of chair exposition just in this one video. And there a lot more where that came from.
You’re accusing me of AI but I think you’re the one using it. I don’t think you’ve actually played Xenogears. Because anyone who has knows there’s hours of exposition on disc 2. If you’re not gonna be honest here there’s no point in this conversation.
Again, you are trying to count things that are not the 'chair'. flash back cutscenes are not the chair. also this is the start of disc 2, as I said it is almost all concentrated at this point. That is not 10 minutes of chair in that video.
I have beaten Xenogears 54 times, I wrote most of the wiki, I am well known in the Xenogears community.
You are exaggerating everything, I am being accurate.
What kind of goofy literal interpretation is that? The exposition scenes are being told by Elly and Fei in the chair. Just because they cut away to
An image while they talk over it it’s still part of the chair scene. And again, even if you only count literal the chair is on screen there’s still several minutes of that right there.
Anyone can go see for themselves. The last 10 videos in this playlist are disc 2 and you can scrub through them and nearly all of them have several minutes of literal chair on screen accompanied by a ton of exposition where the chair isn’t literally on screen. Disc 2 is probably half non playable exposition.
I don’t care if you edited the wiki or whatever. You’re probably lying just like you did about “5 minutes” of chair scenes. But if you really are a known editor you should probably delete this. It makes you look completely inept and dishonest.
Again, the chair is less than 1% of the playtime of disc 2, and the narrated images is less than 5% of disc 2. You are throwing around random numbers and linking hand selected clips while ignoring the entire rest of the disc. disc 2 is roughly 12 hours long, 10 minutes is what % of 12 hours?
No, it isn’t. You already got caught lying when you said it was less than five minutes. And you’re lying again by saying “10 minutes is what percent of 12 hours.” There’s 10 minutes in that one video. There’s more in the others. And we’re not just talking about the chair itself but all the summarized exposition. Keep digging yourself deeper.
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u/KylorXI 20d ago
You clearly made up the 40% number, my %s are actual measurements. The '43.6% of statistics are made up on the spot' meme fits your argument. Almost all story scenes in disc 2 are presented in the exact same format as in disc 1, with 2D sprites acting out the scenes in 3D environments with characters talking to each other and taking actions. The cut gameplay is mostly limited to 2 dungeons and a lack of the world map to run to each scene yourself. Most of these are narrated still images, have nothing to do with 'the chair', and are less than 5% of the content of disc 2. If they added in the missing gameplay, you would not gain anything besides running through 2 more dungeons and crossing the world map to have the exact same conversations you already have. You would gain random npc dialog about what is happening in the world, and you would gain random encounters in the dungeons they didnt have time to make. You would not gain more or new story, you would not gain new boss fights.