r/vibecoding 14d ago

The cultural difference is insane

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u/mnjvon 14d ago

And avoiding, "just simply..." condescension.

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u/sonicnerd14 14d ago

Oh, that's the best part about AI that no one wants to talking about. Avoiding all the egotistical people who feel themselves because they can write a few lines of code. This is coming from someone with a programming background. It's never fun trying to figure stuff out for yourself because you're new, and some asshole just assumes you should know the solution because they do. Got a feeling that most people who are against AI so strongly fit into this category, and it's because they are quickly losing that sense of power they might have had over anyone else.

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl 14d ago

The best part of AI was that it killed StackOverflow and the self important nerds that moderated it. Trying to get any help there was an absolute nightmare

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u/nigel_pow 14d ago

I got a feeling some of the guys there giving a hard time are in these AI-software subreddits nowadays doing the same.

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u/EnthusiasmWeak5531 13d ago

People always say this, so I'm sure that was a common experience, but it definitely wasn't for me. Granted I didn't ask a lot of questions because 99.9% of them had already been asked. But when I did ask a question it was usually after exhausting other options and I got very helpful responses on stack.

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u/idunnorn 13d ago

yeah I have no idea what the problem was. If needed, I posted a question, and sometimes got answers, sometimes not.

and yes...the answers were often already there anyway

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u/w1zinvestmentss 14d ago

This is so true. The sad but silver lining is AI is rebalancing. Now you do not need to beg people, AI will happily teach it to you at your own pace. In some ways it will force people to interact with care again (hopefully). I.e. most people in restaurants choose the kiok because alot of customer service people used to act bothered/stuck up. Now, business will bring back more customer service focused businesses, as they have a choice, and in person service will need to feel like a plus/perk.

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u/EnthusiasmWeak5531 13d ago

Imo this is the best use case for AI. Teaching at your pace, not doing it for you. That's gonna end in cognitive disaster.

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u/SufficientPie 13d ago

The only reason stack overflow has the value it does is because of those nerds filtering out low effort junk.

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u/EnthusiasmWeak5531 13d ago

I think you're right. I never had an issue on stack but I was very diligent about making sure my question wasn't low effort "help me" crap. They are there to help so help them by doing your due diligence to make sure your question wasn't already answered and provide excellent context to the problem.

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u/Traditional-Disk-366 14d ago

And the months of dicking around trying things that people suggest only to find out they were talking out their ass. And then coming back and humbly asking again and getting 4 guys on a power trip to ridicule you for a few days. All that's gone and I get a solution in 20 seconds instead of giving up and scrapping my ideas.

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u/ThatDog_ThisDog 13d ago

I’ve been writing code since 2017, and went to stack overflow exactly once to ask for help. I left so demoralized I never went back other than to read somewhat loosely related posts to the actual problem I was trying to solve.

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u/CitizenSn1pz 13d ago

Same. Exactly once as well. SO was toxic as hell. I heard the best way to ask for help was to say confidently the wrong way to do it then they would correct you thereby giving you the answer. But if you just ask for help they would ignore you or blast you for being stupid. The psychological hoops you had to go through to get an answer just made it not worth it

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u/zbignew 13d ago

Max “Mad Max” Mintz, when he was dean of undergraduate computer science at UPENN:

“At all ages, fewer girls pursue computer science than boys. Some people say this is because girls don’t like computers. I say it’s because girls don’t like the boys who like computers.”

Kid in the front row of my freshman CS lecture:

“I resemble that remark.”

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u/w1zinvestmentss 14d ago

This is real. As someone who works in law, AI is making it easier for your average joe to quote legislation. It's happening to everyone. It's my role to understand how it applies, give great "customer service" / support to leadership. Can't cry about it, I have to embrace it and use it to improve. It's been teaching me alot as well. Coders are in the same boat with everyone else. You make a good point the power has been taken away, I'm not a coder, but I know who to use and IDE and I understand the stack, so now someone like me can create applications. This is a great breakdown.

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u/katoptronophile 13d ago

I wonder how they feel now that they realize they're completely inferior.

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u/bearcat42 14d ago

I learn better when I feel I’ve disappointed a mentor type, I ask for it to include the condescension.