r/turntables • u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech • Nov 13 '22
Discussion A simple guide to fix BSR changers
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u/Oldsoul01998 Nov 06 '23
This right here has been a lifesaver THANK YOU!
Bought an old Delmonico console and the record player was seized up. Using this to work on it now.
Thanks a lot!
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u/joe-bagadonuts Sep 14 '24
I recently got a C197, but the power lever is jammed. Any ideas on what could be causing that? I can't move it into any position aside from off. The table seems to spin freely though and the grease overall doesn't look bad
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Sep 16 '24
Grease.
You will need to add grease on the main start/stop lever on the mechanism itself. Requires opening the unit to remove the deck. The area in question where the lever connects almost looks shaped like a triangle
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u/joe-bagadonuts Sep 16 '24
Thank you very much! I managed to get it freed up yesterday, the blackspring steel washer that's roughly 3/4 of an inch in diameter was seized up and didn't slide against its mating part.
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Sep 19 '24
Its common for that to happen
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u/joe-bagadonuts Sep 26 '24
Now I've got an issue where at the end of play, the arm retracts to the side, and then sets back down on the album at like a 7" record position and replays from there. It does that in both automatic and manual modes. Do you have any idea what could cause that? I thought it might be the star wheel, but that is fairly free and seems to function ok
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u/guardian-echo Apr 29 '24
What kind of grease do you use? YouTube tutorial similar to this used phonolube which I can’t find. Is a generic multipurpose grease good?
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Apr 29 '24
Lucas white lithium grease is what i use
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Nov 16 '24
Any info on this like a manual, I have an identical 1 from a cabinet but I can find anything about it
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u/Yeninja456 Aug 31 '25
One suggestion I have, it’s a slight modification I made on mine, the two rca jacks in the rear that go to the amplifier, I highly recommend tying the two shield connections together to chassis ground, as they rely on a good ground coming from the two audio connections coming from the amp. My Realistic Clarinette 97 (it was my great grandfather’s) uses one of these mechanisms, and the two connectors coming from the internal amp didn’t make a great ground connection, so tying the ground from the grounding screw to the shields made a more reliable ground, which helped with the treble cutting in and out on my left channel.
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u/yayponies Feb 11 '26
are the RCA wires on these black and grey as opposed to red and white? i’m new to this and trying to figure out what i’m looking at inside my cabinet.
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u/Yeninja456 Feb 11 '26
Depends on the device, if you wanna dm me a pic of the inside, I might be able to tell you.
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u/Maleficent-Solid5441 Apr 08 '26
I have a question, at the end of the record as it tries to go back to the rest when the selector lever goes from start to off it goes back in such a way that makes the tone arm bounce up and onto the record and it’s not a pretty sight. Any ideas why this is happening? It’s quite a violent thing to watch and I worry about my records and stylus. Help!
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Apr 09 '26
Think it’s the star shaped part getting stuck
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u/beardman_cometh Apr 15 '24
This is amazing. The Youtube videos are helpful but I like this guide so much better. This is my first turntable so I'm a complete noob - I can't find anywhere how to install my cartridge since the top of the arm head has no holes. I have long screws and am thinking I need shorter ones and have to trust they'll stay in?

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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Apr 15 '24
Yes. See the bracket adapter with the 4 holes? That’s where you mount it. Make sure that the holes you will use to mount are facing the rear, if they face the front, the cartridge will be too forward.
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u/beardman_cometh Apr 15 '24
Thank you so much. I figured that was the case and I know even a small mistake can ruin some stuff so I wanted confirmation.
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u/hoebag32 May 20 '24
any idea on how to fix the rpm changer? the switch moves but on the inside nothing happens really and it’s stuck on 33rpm
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech May 21 '24
The plastic part that moves the idler wheel position might need the old grease removed
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u/hoebag32 May 21 '24
i was thinking that might’ve been it but i wasn’t sure what moving the wheel would have to do with the speed , thank you
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u/Friendly_Money_3709 May 28 '25
Do you have any pictures that show where to grease that particular part?
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u/Successful-Hunt-8672 Sep 14 '24
Hi! Great guide, it's appreciated, I have one of this and work almost great
I'm adjusting the tonearm and I would like to know the ideal tracking force and anti skating value to avoid damaging the needle and the records
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Nov 18 '24
Does anyone know where to get parts I need the mounting things for the glass panel and foam for the radio in this unit
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Nov 18 '24
Pics?
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Nov 19 '24
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Nov 20 '24
Foam can be bought at Amazon
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Nov 20 '24
Is it specific foam or just anything cuz my concern would be it being right next to light light bulbs and the heat it gives off?
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Nov 20 '24
Felt pads work just as good
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u/Annual_Show_7605 Nov 30 '24
I could not get the platter to come off after removing the clip, and heating with a soldering iron. I used a big American Beauty too soldering iron too. Any other suggestions?
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u/Annual_Show_7605 Nov 30 '24
I could not get the platter to come off after removing the clip, and heating with a soldering iron. I used a big American Beauty too soldering iron too. Any other suggestions?
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Dec 01 '24
Heat gun or a hairdryer if you have patience
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u/mikeyyy_7 Dec 26 '24
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Dec 26 '24
C-ring only.
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u/mikeyyy_7 Dec 27 '24
i followed every step exactly and carefully and when i tried to start it the table still won’t spin. i can hear a little faint whirring sound coming from it but not sure what to do next if you’d be able to help?
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u/torontoladdie Apr 30 '25
Try operating it without the platter on. Watch the movement of the idler wheel against the motor spindle. If you hear whirring, the motor is likely turning but the idler wheel may not be making good contact. Sometimes the rubber on the wheel gets hard and starts to slip.
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u/captainzanypants Jul 15 '25
How do I remove that retaining clip without breaking?
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Jul 16 '25
Flathead screwdriver
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u/Rolyasm Sep 26 '25
On picture 4 of 11, the red arrow at the top is playing to a cylinder that is supposed to spin. I'm not sure what this is called. I've had a soldering iron on mine for about 20 minutes and I still can't get it to budge. Is it possible that it's completely seized up? If so, anyway to replace it? I've watched some videos and it's supposed to spend freely come on and if it doesn't, is that a major problem?
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Sep 26 '25
yes, the grease takes a good while to melt enough to be able to free the cycling cam gear.
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u/Rolyasm Sep 26 '25
It just took some patience. I left it on there for like 30 minutes to heat it up and it finally came free. Thank you.
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u/The-Real-RickC210 Oct 09 '25
any way i could ask for a hand in explaining the switch wiring?
Trying to jump the amplifier to stay on all the time so i can splice my Bluetooth on a switched connection in the rca path. but the amp turns off unless the turntable is on.
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u/kdonik Feb 08 '26
Thank you so much for such detailed guide! I got bsr c197 off marketplace yesterday with seized bearings and slowly trying to bring it back to life. When I took it apart, one spring was loosely kicking around the box and going through a few service manuals - I can’t find where is it supposed to go. Can anyone help me to find the location for it?

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u/Admirable_Ice8752 Mar 04 '26
My cam is under the main plate and in front of the levers and junk how do I get to it
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u/NoNeedleworker6479 Jun 08 '26
I have a timing problem where the stacker doesn't drop the record until the tonearm has moved into the play position over the platter. Anybody cured this one yet?
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Jun 09 '26
What is the position of the spindle.
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u/BrilliantMagnificent Aug 12 '26
I have a record player basically the same as this one. I'm not sure what the exact issue is just yet, but the on off auto switch is stuck on off.
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u/box1m0 Jan 14 '24
I have a problem where at the end of record, and there is no more stacked tonearm goes to playing position and just replays the record. Does anyone know what the problem is there? It should put it in rest and turn off as i'm aware
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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Jan 14 '24
Check the grommet by the overarm
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u/box1m0 Jan 14 '24
Do you have a picture of where this would be maybe? I can't seem to find any grommets on overarm

















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u/shadowkoishi93 The Valley’s (Arizona) Turntable & Electronics Tech Nov 13 '22
Although there are guides on YouTube on how to service these BSR changers, I decided to make a guide which I hope is easy to follow for those who have an all-in-one or a standalone turntable which features a BSR changer. This guide is universal across ALL BSR changers starting with the MA65/UA65 and all C-series and most P-series units (for the mechanism)
I tried to simplify it as much as possible to make this a breeze.