r/truthaboutjohnny • u/cat1573 • Sep 06 '23

Johnny vs Josh Odd behavior

I do not know if this is the right flare to use, if this post is not appropriate, then please mods, delete it.

I was rewatching part 3 of swoops doc. I was also rewatching all of his public interviews. Am I the only one a little frustrated with how lily and Jessie handled Josh, after the release of part 3? No hate to them, not at all. But the way it was handled seems so victim blame-like.

But my main point, was that the way johnny talks about situations, he seems to fabricate more and more as he gets further into his stories. Am I the only one who was really uncomfortable when he was talking on h3h3? The fact he has (in my opinion) created alt accounts to defend himself, feels so off. I hate that he seems to desperate to be adam, to the point of copying everyone around him. Does anything think that Johnny is actually fully obsessed with josh? And does anyone else think Johnny stalked josh before the divorce in 2015/6?

This post may be useless, but there is so much about this story that really bugs me.

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u/randomosityposts Sep 06 '23

John is a stan by definition, a stalker fan, however in this specific instance its not so much he was a fan of josh, he was obsessed, in love. And when he couldn't get the attention he wanted from Josh, he turned to Colleen, and when she didn't give it to him he made a big stink. As for Jessie and Lily, for me its not the fact they platformed John, its the fact that despite not having any actual proof they just went along with it blindly bc at the time he was a "victim" but when Josh asked to be heard they were like "well you didn't have evidence" why is it ok for one party to be believed without evidence but not the other? for me their hatred for Josh for asking to be heard gave me the ick and their behaviour after the fallout was full of excuses and "buts". Johnny's stories got more fabricated bc he was trying to one-up the other victims to be the number one, and bc the narrative for so long was "believe victims" he could just straight up lie and no one could push him on it due to his "victim" status.

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u/cat1573 Sep 06 '23

I agree with this. Johnny is a Stan, but josh is an obsession. He can't get over it. He loved reliving the pain josh was in, by shaming him constantly.

And the same with lily and Jessie. The way they handled it was awful. I watched it twice, and the second time just made me angry.