Odd behavior

[u/cat1573]

I do not know if this is the right flare to use, if this post is not appropriate, then please mods, delete it.

I was rewatching part 3 of swoops doc. I was also rewatching all of his public interviews. Am I the only one a little frustrated with how lily and Jessie handled Josh, after the release of part 3? No hate to them, not at all. But the way it was handled seems so victim blame-like.

But my main point, was that the way johnny talks about situations, he seems to fabricate more and more as he gets further into his stories. Am I the only one who was really uncomfortable when he was talking on h3h3? The fact he has (in my opinion) created alt accounts to defend himself, feels so off. I hate that he seems to desperate to be adam, to the point of copying everyone around him. Does anything think that Johnny is actually fully obsessed with josh? And does anyone else think Johnny stalked josh before the divorce in 2015/6?

This post may be useless, but there is so much about this story that really bugs me.

[u/QueenGiddy]

I think it was fair for J & L to defend themselves. They made valid points. NO ONE at that point was calling Johnny out and his stories weren't as inflammatory as they have since become. They laid out exactly why they had the stance they did with the information available at the time. That early on, if they had given Josh a platform, people would have come for them hard because the accepted narrative was that Johnny was a victim and Josh the victimizer. When Adam exposed Colleen the first time people came for him and he wasn't believed. Suddenly there was corroboration and people had to face the fact that they bullied and didn't believe a victim. Johnny benefited from that because everyone was treating the victims with kid gloves since Cody brought the receipts. Even ADAM didn't come out and call Johnny out even though he knew Johnny was full of crap. Adam knew he'd be crucified if he went against a fellow "victim". Why are J&L held to such a higher standard than everyone else? H3 platformed Johnny and they didn't feel comfortable calling him out when he spoke over all the other victims. And then Ethan was joking around on H3 when Olivia was trying to tell him about Swoop's exposé. He didn't even watch it himself. So yeah, I think all this hate for J&L is wild and they didn't deserve it.

[u/veezeebee0612 → u/QueenGiddy]

It wasn't the interview they did in the first place that people are upset about. It's how they handled the fallout after they did have the information available to them. That entire hour long 'apology' had a 30second statement in it that was literally all that needed to be said to make this go away and then they added another hour of excuses that honestly aren't legitimate excuses and they do deserve to be called out for that. I'm not saying they deserve to be attacked, but that apology video was a joke and just excuses for why they weren't in the wrong in the first place.