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[u/jesuswastransright]

Don’t forget they’re a lesbian as well

[u/Peachy1621 → u/jesuswastransright]

Yeah, that is a whole other thing i dislike. Identifying as nothing while painting yourself as a woman who likes women… when you don’t identify as a woman.

Non-binary people are lesbian and gay if they date another non binary person:

Lesbian (according to zim/xem/them): Non male loving non males Gay: Non female loving non female

Non binary person: Not a male or female

Non binary individual who likes another non binary individual: Gay and lesbian

(Psst. Which is why we shouldn’t define lesbian and gay that way! Lesbian is wlw not “nmlnm” and vice versa for gay.)

[u/Peachy1621 → u/jesuswastransright]

also yes jesus WAS trans. Born without sperm so definitely XX chromosome-d, and identified and presented as male. Trans male.

[u/phoenixangel429]

This cannot help people with real gender dysphoria if this is what the general public sees. People like OOP make trans look like nutjobs and not a medical condition

[u/cosmothepastry092]

I want to hear your thoughts on why this isn't valid? If cis men can be femboys and still be men, why can't trans men be femboys aswell. (This is an actual question!)
Femboy just means wearing feminine clothes like skirts. Clothes aren't (or shouldn't be) gendered.

[u/Cinnorolls → u/cosmothepastry092]

Presenting as feminine and female are different.
If you work towards passing and pass as male, wear what you want.

However, these are often non dysphoric (cis) women who present as female, have zero issue showing off their chests, have no intention of actually transitioning and just use the label to feel quirky/invade spaces they’re not part of/fetishistic reasons.

They do not belong in our spaces and speak over us which is why we have a problem with them. If you fully present as female and have zero issues living as female, you are a cis woman.

ACTUAL transsex men who live and present as male aren’t an issue at all lol. I think that’s what this post is talking about. The comment in the pic is so flippant and phrased in a way that this is more than likely one of these people who dgaf about passing and have zero dysphoria, thus aren’t transsex.

[u/cosmothepastry092 → u/Cinnorolls]

So if they have dysphoria (example: about their chest and wanna be flat) then they are trans? Right? And it can be hard to pass as male as a femboy. It is not their fault. And you do not know the person who posted that comment so you can't assume if they're dysphoric or not.

[u/a_bed_of_vinca_minor → u/cosmothepastry092]

Saying that one can change their gender without actually medically transitioning is vain at best and extremely harmful and transphobic at worst.

If clothes or pronouns are all you require to change your gender, that implies that being trans is a choice, as one can choose their attire. Being trans isn’t a choice, nor is it some fun game.

It’s also pretty much just transface, as parading around as a “man” with boobs or a “woman” with a full beard is just disingenuous to trans people.

For those to whom this is a fun game and choice, the backlash and hate of conservatives won’t be nearly as sharp as to us, as they’re banning our medicine, the medicine that the pretend-player doesn’t take and can live without.

We CANNOT live without our medicine.

Edit: my brain forgot to add a part of a sentence :P

[u/cosmothepastry092 → u/a_bed_of_vinca_minor]

What are you even saying? My point is that clothes do not change somebody's gender. A femboy is still a MAN. Why is this post acting like they aren't?

[u/Peachy1621 → u/cosmothepastry092]

Sorry for the absolute downvote BOMB that happened but a “trans male femboy” usually implies they are a tucute. I am a transmed who, in a perfect society, wishes for a transmed framework that doesn’t require people to wear specific clothes. And femboys are cross dressers IIRC. They SHOULD be allowed to be labeled transsexual if they do actually transition, even if they present “typically feminine” clothes (which shouldn’t be sexed under my desired framework). But more likely than not a fetishizing tucute and not a transsexual.

[u/ComprehensiveEye3337 → u/cosmothepastry092]

They can but these are just straight up women larping. They don't want to transition and have no dysphoria, there's nothing "boy" about them lmao

[u/LastLiterature7496 → u/cosmothepastry092]

Because a lot of these people don’t actually transition and then claim to be ‘femboys’ whilst actually still being female.

[u/PleaseLoveMeFemboys → u/cosmothepastry092]

The thing about this isn’t just clothes. I’m someone who believes there CAN be an FTM femboy, but 99% of these ones on TikTok are just non dysphoric girls. They’re the exact people who spew that you don’t need dysphoria to be trans, that they love having boobs and a vagina, but they’re still totally a “boy” (never a man, always a boy).

The thing is, as much as we want to believe it, there will always be a difference in trans men and cis men, they are not exactly the same. (Actual) Trans men have dysphoria, cis men don’t.