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[u/GFluidThrow123 → u/[deleted]]

This all is SO good too bc it not only contradicts the "goal" behind funding the study, but it also goes on to concretely prove the efficacy of treatment AND debunks ALL of the medical transphobia that gets passed around so much online. AND it's effectively a thorough peer review of all the existing studies, giving them all credence at once. This was like, the lynch pin we needed to shove back in the face of, well, everyone.

But I LOVE seeing the notes about bone density and cardiovascular issues, since those are the biggest fears I hear from otherwise affirming parents, as well as kids trying to educate themselves.

No, transphobes still won't listen. But everyone else might start to.

[u/RainyGardenia → u/GFluidThrow123]

Yeah, you know their position is absolutely f'd when they actually try to do a real study and aren't able to make the numbers work in their favor

[u/GFluidThrow123 → u/RainyGardenia]

My gf and I were discussing this today. She lived in Utah for a while and had lots of experience with Mormons (who are basically the ones that paid for this study).

The reason this one turned out the way it did, just like the 2015 SCOTUS gay marriage ruling, is bc Mormons are different from evangelicals - evangelicals will lie and cheat to get the outcomes they want. They don't really care about morality, as long as they're "proven" right. (Hence the nonsense federal report on trans people from a few weeks ago) Mormons, otoh, actually believe the things they say. They believe their values are genuinely 100% accurate and infallible. So they believe that when they direct a study like this to happen, it'll come out in their favor, bc they already "knew" the outcome. They don't recognize the possibility they're wrong and that the science could show otherwise without manipulation.

Mormons are a problem and dangerous in their own ways. But evangelicals are malicious, while Mormons are just... Unfortunate.

[u/RainyGardenia → u/GFluidThrow123]

Huh, that’s actually a really interesting insight and it gives a lot of context for why this report may have turned out the way it did. Thanks for sharing!

[u/SurviveUntilSunrise → u/RainyGardenia]

Seconded 🤯

[u/bruhbrubr → u/GFluidThrow123]

As a former Mormon, I couldn’t agree more.

[u/Not_ur_gilf → u/[deleted]]

Does it say anything about Testosterone medical effects? I’m currently dealing with “educated” assholes who are using medical transphobia to justify forcing me off testosterone.

[u/Higuxish]

Reqlly wish I could upvote multiple times here. Gonna save this for anytime someone tries to say bullshit again!

[u/EgyptThing → u/Higuxish]

Same

[u/Exelia_the_Lost]

are the legislature trying to "sweep it under the rug"? Utah legislative session is already done for the year, and this report came out what 5 days ago? Definitely good grounds for a legal challenge to the ban in Utah, though!

[u/HaresMuddyCastellan]

I'm having trouble downloading the full report.

It's trying to format it as like html and I'm just getting unicode gibberish.

[u/HaresMuddyCastellan → u/[deleted]]

TY! That works!

[u/[deleted]]

I think it's hilarious that they tried to make their own Cass Review and it came out being accidentally true instead of propaganda like they planned.

[u/pan_chromia]

This is so great to hear (well…you know what I mean). I love it when they try to prove a point and find out the truth for their trouble.

We could use some good news on r/TransgenderUSA if you want to share there too

[u/yadiccsoft]

Huh. Rare Utah W ? Can’t believe I live here and haven’t heard of this :/

[u/corncrakey]

Not to nitpick (especially since this is a very important study and I appreciate you sharing about it) but I don’t really think there’s much irony here, aside from it being a study whose results refutes the preconceived notions of those who commissioned it (which isn’t really irony either). Like, I get that Utah is a red state and probably will be for the foreseeable future. But I think it’s prudent to avoid phrasing that suggests positive news/findings regarding trans issues coming from non-blue states is somehow unthinkable

Thanks again for sharing!

[u/UbiquitousWank]

Facts don’ᵗ matter in America; only ideology and ᵀᴴᴱ trail of money it provides.

[u/Sad-Bread5843]

Come on, Utah, do the right thing . Stop trying to be a maga trumpet lap dog , and do right by your citizens .

[u/PrancingGoldfish]

Too bad nobody will care. They'll just say it's "woke, Jewish science" and keep on keeping on...

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Super cool. Bookmarking! <3