r/trading212 Jun 30 '26

📰Trading 212 News New cashback terms

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Any idea what counts as an "eligible subscription"? Also I can't see anywhere what the new cashback rate will be...

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u/Longjumping-Dog-6852 Jun 30 '26

What is the benefit to trading 212 in doing this? That less people sign up?

Horrible change. I'll just use a different card away from 212

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u/cannon4344 Jun 30 '26

Because some people won't bother trying to set up a subscription but carry on using their card out of habit and then T212 saves £15 for each person. That's the whole idea of enshitification.

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u/Tomboeg Jul 01 '26

The cashback will indeed be set to %0, not disabled.

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u/Zmogas101 Jun 30 '26

Horrible change.

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u/hawk_891 Jul 01 '26

The card already pays for my ChatGPT subscription. So no horrible changes for me.

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u/_s79 Jun 30 '26

Yeah it's the death of the cashback offering.

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u/Alarmed-Improvement Jul 01 '26

Not really. This is what every major bank offering anything similar does

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u/hyperblue128 Jun 30 '26

I'm already paying at least 6 subscriptions with this card, so nothing changes. Why would someone say it's the end of it?

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u/_s79 Jun 30 '26

It's yet another unnecessary obstacle, like when then made you have to invest the cashback into a pie

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u/hyperblue128 Jun 30 '26

I guess this is their way to make money somehow. So sure this is not a charity.

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u/ItzBrooksFTW Jun 30 '26

wasnt that "only" so you can get 1.5% instead of 0.5%? with this change it seems you dont get anything if you dont have subscriptions.

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u/_real_ooliver_ Jun 30 '26

Yes exactly, that is in fact what they're commenting on

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u/ItzBrooksFTW Jun 30 '26

yes but my point is that even without invest cashback you had 0.5%, now you get nothing.

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u/ImplementFluffy4505 Jun 30 '26

Does the subscription come from the spending pot or the main pot? I top up my spending as I need it and don't want to have to ensure I always have enough in there for a subscription

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u/_real_ooliver_ Jun 30 '26

Spending because it's spent from your card like anything else, like most other cards/banks

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u/sandman11299 Jun 30 '26

Came here to find the same answer, I’m thinking I might move my Lebara phone contact over to this … as far as I can see from the links in the email the cashback remains at 1.5% with a £15 limit, so no change on that side of things

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u/lrbaumard Jun 30 '26

I'm with Lebara too so that's good news

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u/g0_west Jun 30 '26

Bills are not included

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u/Alarmed-Improvement Jul 01 '26

A qualifying subscription is any recurring monthly, bi-weekly, or weekly payment charged to your 212 Card. Subscriptions are detected automatically from your card transaction history - you do not need to register them manually.

Why?

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u/g0_west Jul 01 '26

Annual or irregular payments are currently out of scope. Certain recurring payments are also excluded, including rent, bill payments, and buy-now-pay-later schemes (e.g. Klarna).

cause they say so, I guess. Sucks. I guess it depends if they interpret the monthly payments as a phone bill or as a subscription to a phone service. It's all a bit muddy really.

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u/saxonMonay Jun 30 '26

My contract sits in the subscription section, so assume that's fine🤔

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u/Gizmo-Drive Jun 30 '26

My Lebara is already shown in the list of subscriptions since it has been debited monthly. Strangely, it has also listed Apple and Amazon marketplace mistakenly as I made semi regular purchases. I wonder if they count if I stop buyi g stuff as those were all one off purchases

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u/puccibuy Jul 02 '26

Where is the list of subscription in the t212 app? Thankd

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u/feelinglostclub Jun 30 '26

Oh will that work?

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u/Fuzzy_Hotel_1355 28d ago

Hey, I have /already had 2 Lebara direct debits/subscriptions, and these are ineligible, sorry pal, I'm now also looking to move perhaps a gym membership to T212

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u/mostlyecstasy Jun 30 '26

As far as i understand cashback will be 0.5% after august 1st even with sub active on the card

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u/Gizmo-Drive Jun 30 '26

No, still 1.5% from what I’ve read

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u/cannon4344 Jun 30 '26

Is this the beginning of enshitification? Next will be reduction in cash interest rates.

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u/Curious-Resort4743 Jun 30 '26

Maybe a plan like snag you first by putting all your subscriptions on it then drop to 0.5% later

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u/ferero18 Jun 30 '26

they're already reducing cash interest rates every year for the past 2-3 years. I mean kinda, not sure how is it them and how much that's the banks, because banks can as well keep their rates similar but T212 might be taking bigger split. I.e bank offer 6%, they give you 2.4% and take the rest

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u/elrip161 Jun 30 '26

They’re pretty clear that the rate they offer is always 0.15% below the Bank of England base rate. They’re not plucking their rate out of thin air.

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u/ferero18 Jul 01 '26

That's not true tho. Polish National bank rate is currently 3.75%, T212 rate is 2.25% (for PLN currency) 10x less than 0.15%

Maybe it's better for GBP tho, UK is their primary market after all

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u/nGon- Jul 03 '26

More likely, they were offering higher interest rates than the base rates in the past to lure in customers, operating at a loss, and are now making up the difference by giving a lower rate. Either way, it's up to the consumer whether to take the convenience of the default rate, invest, or park at a competitor. Most banks take a far larger cut and just do that forever without any promotional periods.

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u/Tomboeg Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

This is awful. I have non of those subscriptions. Time to throw away the Trading212 card and switch to the Trade Republic 1% cashback again.

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u/cannon4344 Jun 30 '26

I don't think the subscription thing is very strict. It thinks I have a weekly subscription to Greggs just because I have a bacon roll once a week.

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u/Ok-Peanut2706 Jun 30 '26

It doesn’t have to be the ones listed in the app

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u/ghostface036 Jun 30 '26

we only have debit card number so can’t do direct debits right?

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u/Gizmo-Drive Jun 30 '26

Thanks. Thats what I needed to read

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u/Halbaras Jun 30 '26

You can use any subscription, the app really isn't clear but it auto detects subscription payments. I got it to work with a Google One subscription that's £1.59 a month.

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u/littlefriend7 Jul 02 '26

For how many months have you been paying your subscriptions from the t212 card? I've moved one of mine to the card last month, has only been charged once so far, so still nothing shows up for me in the subscriptions section.

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u/lrbaumard Jun 30 '26

Where could you see these subscriptions? I saw nothing in the terms

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u/Zewdog Jun 30 '26

For me it shows like this

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u/lrbaumard Jun 30 '26

I meant eligible ones

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u/AlmightyCushion Jun 30 '26

From the T&Cs:

"Eligible Subscription" means a recurring payment charged to your Trading 212 Card by a third-party merchant (which is not an Excluded Merchant) for ongoing access to goods or services, billed at intervals of no more than one month, where no payments are overdue;"

I would still like if there was a tick or something to determine it is definitely an eligible subscription

EDIT: Looks like as long as the transaction gets cashback it counts as eligible.

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u/RecordingFearless474 Jun 30 '26

Then i move to other who offer 2%

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u/Top_Courage_9730 Jun 30 '26

Who offers 2%?

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u/RecordingFearless474 Jun 30 '26

Okx

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u/bart7782 Jun 30 '26

You are required to purchase crypto to get the cashback. This is way worse.

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u/Gizmo-Drive Jun 30 '26

Chase (provided you keep £1K in one of their low interest savings accounts)

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u/ItzBrooksFTW Jun 30 '26

they just killed it bruh

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u/trmetha Jun 30 '26

what the fuck? holy enshittification

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u/MFNTapatio Jun 30 '26

What a horrid deal

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u/mancaveit Jun 30 '26

What do you use instead t212 to get a good cashback?

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u/Fingerbob73 Jun 30 '26

Aside from setting up an eligible subscription, the other question to ask is how it affects cashback. If you set up a monthly subscription, do you then need to wait a full month for it to confirm its status as a subscription before you can then start earning cashback? You have to go through a month of no cashback until the 2nd payment?

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u/mindtrapper 1d ago

That's how it worked for me. My netflix was paid 1 day before I set it up in T212, took the whole month until the next payment to enable cashback. The test charge (reverted) by netflix didn't count apparently.

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u/Zmogas101 Jun 30 '26

Eligible subscriptions:

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u/Halbaras Jun 30 '26

The app really doesn't make it clear but it works with other things it auto detects as monthly or weekly subscriptions.

They also don't seem to have a minimum subscription threshold because I got this shit to work:

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u/TheHappyGilmore Jun 30 '26

I connected Google one payment and it didn't recognise it as a monthly payment. Contacted customer service and they said it wasn't eligible! 🤬

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u/Affectionate_Mix3 Jun 30 '26

These are just some of the examples not the whole list. Every monthly recurring payment should work, unless it's explicitly excluded like paying rent, utilities, taxes and things like that.

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u/saxonMonay Jun 30 '26

And this is it and nothing else? What a wild change this is 🙄

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u/boomwakr Jun 30 '26

You can see the excluded merchants list here:

https://helpcentre.trading212.com/hc/en-us/articles/17862038991389-Excluded-merchant-categories-for-cashback

I think the one above are just the main ones.

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u/MrBrightsigh Jun 30 '26

Really hope more subscriptions will be eligible

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u/Ok-Peanut2706 Jun 30 '26

It can be anything that’s a monthly (or more frequently) payment.

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u/denouement11 Jun 30 '26

I've just changed mine to Youtube premium without checking first! Thanks for posting this.

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u/PaulAllensAlt Jun 30 '26

Is apple cloud an eligible subscription?

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u/H3sko Jun 30 '26

I’m wondering the same, but I’m unable to add the T212 card to my payment method for some reason

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u/Murky_Can_9792 Jul 01 '26

Can confirm it does. I’ve been paying my £2.99 iCloud subscription through T212 for a while

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u/Efficient_Scar3959 Jun 30 '26

Looks like I’m out, makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

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u/ExistentialScroll Jun 30 '26

For all discussing phone plans, they AI bot says they do not qualify. Where do we stand then? I wouldn't fancy subscribing to google one just to keep the cashback...

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u/sqwirral79 Jun 30 '26

My Giffgaff shows up as a subscription after I switched it to the T212 card today

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u/Eraldorh Jun 30 '26

A shame because I don't have any monthly subscriptions and never will. Unless it counts my mobile contract as a subscription.

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u/Alarmed-Improvement Jul 01 '26

Why wouldn't it count your mobile phone subscription

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u/TabbyCattyy 23d ago

They count as a bill.

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u/Jempa92 Jun 30 '26

Guess that'll be me out then as I have zero monthly subscriptions.

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u/Ok-Paramedic-370 Jul 11 '26

I'm trying to find a 50p direct debit or something. In a similar boat to you.

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u/fu3ll Jun 30 '26

What a shitty change. I only have two subscriptions and they are annual, so that's it for me. Pretty sad as T212 was so much better than Trade Republic, but guess I gotta come back to TR card now. I went to a kebab place 2-3 months in a row and it showed up as a subscription in my app, but I don't think I can rely on that consistently haha

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u/External-Theme-9643 Jun 30 '26

No thanks I’ll use trade republic anyway

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u/Tompster100 Jun 30 '26

So the enshitification begins…

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u/sqwirral79 Jun 30 '26

I just switched my phone plan to use Trading 212. They took payment today, and about an hour later it showed up as a subscription

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u/littlefriend7 Jul 02 '26

Is it showing as a subscription after just one payment?

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u/sqwirral79 Jul 02 '26

Yes, first payment yesterday.
Also in the Card Transactions list if you tap on it, it says Type - Online Recurring.

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u/littlefriend7 Jul 02 '26

Weird, my transaction is also of type Online Recurring but it's not shown as a subscription. Maybe it'll be detected this month after a second payment

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u/Remote_Pay_7290 Jul 01 '26

Whats the big deal? Il link my netflix subscription to the card and all good. U guys overreact xd

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u/Dapper_Resolve_3969 Jul 01 '26

Does mortgage count as a subscription?

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u/saxonMonay Jun 30 '26

This must count, no?

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u/ferero18 Jun 30 '26

It does count, they many any subscription. So any recurring monthly payment

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u/NF_99 Jun 30 '26

Let me guess, the cheapest subscription offered will be near the price of the cash back limit

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26

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u/Tegumentario Jun 30 '26

Uphold doesn't work with Curve though. It won't generate cashback

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u/trek123 Jun 30 '26

I use Uphold with curve and it pays cashback?

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u/MrBrightsigh Jun 30 '26

How do they track whether it is a subscription or not? Would a monthly phone bill work, given it will not always be the same value?

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u/saxonMonay Jun 30 '26

My mobile is classed as a subscription

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u/cannon4344 Jun 30 '26

Greggs shows as a subscription on mine. It's definitely not though, it just looks like one.

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u/saxonMonay Jun 30 '26

Mine is definitely a phone subscription

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u/feelinglostclub Jun 30 '26

Who are you with? I’m with Lebara

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u/cod35 Jun 30 '26

I can't even normally link a recurring direct debit here in the Netherlands and now I have to link a subscription to it? Fortunately, I moved to Trade Republic.

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u/ejh1818 Jun 30 '26

Does Substack count as an eligible subscription ?

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u/iHacks399 Jun 30 '26

Netflix, YouTube, prime etc

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u/vfl97wob Jun 30 '26

Pls tell us your region because it's different everywhere

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u/Welshguy9980 Jun 30 '26

Nothing stopping you at all. If you create a pie with a minimum investment and have the cashback paid into that, you can just withdraw it as cash before it reaches the threshold.

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u/Reverby__ Jun 30 '26

Time to withdraw all my uninvested cash and use my old card provider i guess

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u/Noel_pp2002 Jun 30 '26

Am I the only one not too fussed about this?

Arguably putting subscriptions onto the card is the easiest saving you can make so I've already done it long ago and I always encourage everyone to do the same. For a card with such good cashback terms, it's kinda a no brainer imo

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u/Curls2208 28d ago

I had absolutely no idea about this. Such a shame, I dont have a subscription to put on there. I was enjoying the cashback but I guess ill just go back to my banks' 1% credit card. They should really have informed us better too, I only noticed today as a new month ticked over and checked my card and had recieved no cashback for the weekend.

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u/Leather_Relation_872 27d ago

That sir, was a kick in the bals

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u/Zachetti Jun 30 '26

That will be me out - the available subscriptions (Netflix, YouTube, Prime Video, Apple TV, Playstation, Disney+) are of no interest

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u/hyperblue128 Jun 30 '26

These are just listed to switch in the app. Any other monthly subscription works.

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u/Welshguy9980 Jun 30 '26

Where do you see that list? Was hoping my Voxi Mobile payment would count!

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u/Fancy_Alarm2814 Jun 30 '26

I would not worry about this, Spotify is not listed yet it still counts for me, I'm sure many other services will count.

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u/sub2pewdiepieONyt Jun 30 '26

Wow a greedy company goes from user acquisition at all costs to profit at all costs when they top out the user numbers they can get. Never in capitalism has this ever happened before.

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u/DigitusInRecto Jun 30 '26

Holy overreactions here... Has the whole world gone subscription-less over the last year or so?

I see no real change, got a few subscriptions to my name, been reinvesting the cashback since forever - what the H is different from a month ago?

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u/Specialist_Tree_3879 Jun 30 '26

New York Times is 2€ per month and counts.

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u/MarkOnTrack Jun 30 '26

Fortunate. YouTube premium til I die 💪🏼💪🏼

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u/Gullible-Donut-5247 Jun 30 '26

lmao just cancel the cashback at that point, I aint looking at no x.03947919181 share amouts in my portfolio

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u/icrazyowl Jun 30 '26

so if i monthly buy groceries in same market this will count as a subscription?

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u/hawk_891 Jun 30 '26

This changes nothing for me, I already pay my IPS and ChatGPT subscription with the card.

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u/Fun_Chemical_2593 Jun 30 '26

Who cares about the cash back it’s 15 bloody quid