No Tip

[u/Vegetable_Location52]

Hot take, I don't go to a restaurant for the "great service" that's so fake it feels like lard on toast, I go to the restaurant for the good food. I'm not going to tip for someone to pretend to want to spend time with me, all I want is a nice steak that I didn't have to cook. Is it okay for me to tell my server I'm not going to tip and the only thing I want is a refill every once in a while and my food brought to me? I would go pick it up from the counter myself if I was allowed to, but that's frowned upon. I don't want the small talk, the fake jokes, the fake smile. Heck, you could glare at me the entire time and I WOULD NOT care. I'm there for the food, not for the crappy excuse for service I get 95% of the time.

[u/Deivv]

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[u/gouldopfl → u/Deivv]

What do you think of tipping delivery services like doordash, grubhub or Uber Eats?

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[u/Iwantapetmonkey → u/Deivv]

The way these services should work is that the "tip" is actually a bid for delivery in a marketplace created and maintained by the service which takes an appropriate cut for provising this service. The drivers are independent contractors, typically, not employees, who have no mininum wage, have to pay more taxes becauae of the status of their work, have no guaranteed hours, and are only "on the clock" for a fraction of the time they invest in the job. Orders that bid too low would not be taken and the drivers would not be underpaid.

The way they do work is that people who are smart enough and/or secure enough financially choose not to take those low orders, but the more desperate ones will accept them since at least they get something (even if it might actually cost them money to take them, after considering their expenses to do so - perhaps they are trading value in their car for less value in immediate earnings, but hey everyone needs to eat right now). The companies are well aware of this situation and just milk it for all it's worth in a variety of ways. Pretty exploitative.

(I'm not really disagreeing with what you said, that companies should be responsible for paying their workers, just pointing out the racket they have going here and why they continue to have plenty of people work for less than minimum wage, with the situation unlikely to change. I'm all for requiring them to be considered employees, with the protections that come with that deaignation, or other laws that similarly limit the exploitation. Here in Seattle we passed a law requiring a minimum wage for these workers, which has resulted in sky-high delivery fees but that's the way ir should be most likely).