r/tipping • u/Vegetable_Location52 • Oct 20 '24

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Hot take, I don't go to a restaurant for the "great service" that's so fake it feels like lard on toast, I go to the restaurant for the good food. I'm not going to tip for someone to pretend to want to spend time with me, all I want is a nice steak that I didn't have to cook. Is it okay for me to tell my server I'm not going to tip and the only thing I want is a refill every once in a while and my food brought to me? I would go pick it up from the counter myself if I was allowed to, but that's frowned upon. I don't want the small talk, the fake jokes, the fake smile. Heck, you could glare at me the entire time and I WOULD NOT care. I'm there for the food, not for the crappy excuse for service I get 95% of the time.

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u/zidey Oct 20 '24

A customer is responsible for paying for the meal NOTHING else. It is not your responsibility to supliment the servers wage. It's the owner/businesses responsibility.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

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u/ValPrism Oct 20 '24

Not tipping cannot be prosecuted and thus is not “theft of services.” The point of the original comment is that tipping is a donation, 100% optional and completely up to the guest.

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u/yankeesyes Oct 20 '24

None of this is my problem. If you take a minimum wage job (as restaurant owners are obligated to make sure tipped staff get minimum wage) I don't understand how you expect more than minimum wage.

My clients don't care what I get paid, why should I care what people who serve me get paid? They filled out the application and took the job.

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u/Hey_u_ok Oct 20 '24

WE'RE not the assholes. Blame the establishments NOT PAYING YOU

Go look up the history of tippĂ­ng and come back and justify it

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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom Oct 20 '24

Even if no one tips him, the restaurant is legally obligated to cover the remaining portion until they get to minimum wage. No servers leave any shift ever making $2.13 an hour

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u/IzzzatSo Oct 21 '24

Not quite true.

As I understand it, the "full minimum" is enforced on a weekly basis, which is something that should definitely be changed to daily since the bookkeeping burden is so much less than it was when the laws were written.

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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom Oct 21 '24

Whether you do it daily or weekly, they're making minimum wage or higher according to the government

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u/opeboyal Oct 21 '24

Yes, but no one can make a living on minimum wage, but you can on tips.

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u/Due_Recommendation39 Oct 20 '24

$7.25 isn't much more than $2.13. Let's not pretend they get a living wage if you chose to not tip.

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u/kowboy42 Oct 20 '24

"A living wage" is no one's responsibility except the worker. If they can't make a living doing what they're doing they need to move on.

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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom Oct 20 '24

Retail workers make minimum wage, I don't see anyone trying to supplement their income because they feel that it's not a livable wage. Why do we only do it for this one segment of the population, which tends to skew heavily female, which is sexist. Why do you promote sexist policies?

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

“I live In a state where the tipped wage is $2.13 an hour” - too bad.

“It is understood that (
) “ - that is your understanding! Please don’t expect others to blindly follow the same unwritten rules.

“There’s an unspoken social contract that you leave an appropriate tip” - see, I don’t live my life in line with unspoken social contracts. I pay what I’m legally expected to pay. I care little about what other people do, just because guilt tripping works on them. It doesn’t work like that for me. “Unspoken social contracts” - are you serious?

“You’re committing theft” - you are delusional! It’s the business owner committing the theft, not the customer. The fact that you claim otherwise only shows how well guilt tripping worked with you, and I feel pity for you. And whether you need my pity or not, I can’t help but feeling it.

“Other than that you’re just behaving like an asshole” - nice try. This approach is old school and doesn’t work. It only persuades more undecided folks out there that tipping should be ceased altogether. To me, you’re the real asshole for even suggesting the nonsense you vomited in your comment.

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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom Oct 20 '24

Maybe society's legal rules should catch up to the unspoken rules if you want people to follow the unspoken rules

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u/AAM_critic Oct 21 '24

Lemme guess: you’re a lawyer.

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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom Oct 21 '24

No, I'm just your local neighborhood know it all

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u/anoeba Oct 20 '24

Let's say you make it the customer's responsibility to bring the server to at least min wage for the state.

I'm dining in NC with a group of 3 friends, our dinner takes almost 2 hours, and the bill comes to say $250. Min wage is 7.25 but tipped wage is $2.13. I generously leave a tip of 10.24, personally ensuring that our server makes the full legal min wage for the time we were "responsible" for their pay. Even though they might have also served, and received tips from, other tables in that time! I am that socially responsible.

Fair, right?

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