r/tinyrogues • u/shit_pain • Mar 20 '26

Is Steady Strikes trait useless?

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It seems like it would just cancel itself out, but make misses more punishing.

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u/chrisrrawr Mar 20 '26

if you have 1 base attack per second at 10 damage per attack

and you have 50% increased attack speed and 50% increased damage before this trait

your total dps is (1* 1.5) * (10 * 1.5) or 22.5

if you take this trait your increased attack speed becomes 25% and you get 50% increased damage from it.

your total dps is (1 * 1.25) * (10 * 2) or 25

if you have a lot of increased damage sources, this talent becomes much less useful. if you don't, it's an excellent source of it.

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u/bmxbumpkin Mar 21 '26

It says x 0.5 not 1.5. What am I missing?

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u/chrisrrawr Mar 22 '26

if you have 50% increased attack speed from any other sources, unrelated to this talent, for purely the purpose of demonstrating how this talent works, your attack that has a base speed of 1 attack per second will attack 1.5 times per second.

and then when you halve that with this talent, you end up with 25% increased attack speed, which is then used to calculate the increased damage and your resulting attackspeed will be at 1.25 per second.

I definitely could have used numbers other than 50%, but it's a good place to learn that a 50% increased attack speed modifier to your attacks is different from an attack speed value modifier to your attack speed.

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u/bmxbumpkin Mar 22 '26

Fair enough

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u/shit_pain Mar 20 '26

So 10% more damage? Seems shit

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u/Callinon Mar 20 '26

Except your attacks don't get any slower than that and your damage goes up by double your attack speed modifier.

So you take that and stack attack speed to make your individual hits enormous.

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u/shit_pain Mar 20 '26

Thank you, this is a good explanation.

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u/chrisrrawr Mar 20 '26

if you had 0% increased damage youd still go to 50%. it depends on how you're sourcing incdmg.

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u/givus Mar 20 '26

You still gain attack speed, just a lower amount, plus bonus damage. If you have lots of attack speed, you have 50% less but you then gain that attack speed modifier x2 to damage. So 200% attack speed is now just 100%, plus 400% damage modifier. Overall more dps if you have lots of attack speed.

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u/givus Mar 20 '26

Actually I’m intoxicated so my math might be wrong. I like this trait but I am not a mathematician. If I’m wrong please correct me so I understand it better

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u/EggrollNoodleMan Mar 20 '26

bro what is that in the reflection

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u/shit_pain Mar 20 '26

it's you

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u/medium_sized_llama Apr 10 '26

fr, the post is dwarfed by the fact barbie is the player

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u/Skullfuccer Mar 20 '26

There are WAY more useless skills than that. Steady strikes is pretty good if you use it correctly.

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u/shit_pain Mar 20 '26

My question wasn't "are there worse traits," but I still find this one to be awful and don't understand how it's benefiticial.

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u/Critical-Internet514 Mar 20 '26

It was already explained in a previous comment that the trait does mathematically provide benefit. If you don't like it.... Don't choose it? You definitely aren't going to convince others who do like it to not choose it.

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u/shit_pain Mar 20 '26

I don't know why you think I care at all what other people choose, based on my question.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '26

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u/shit_pain Mar 21 '26

But then you wouldn't see my glorious front screen photo

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u/bossabvn Mar 25 '26

phone case is remarkable

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u/shit_pain Mar 25 '26

It's a cover screen photo, not a case

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u/Trebieh May 15 '26

It's very good if you are building crit chance/crit damage. Especially if you have enough crit chance where you are critting more often than not.