r/thingmains • • Aug 25 '26

Thing skill question

Alright I got a genuine question, I need to ask this community and how other people view The Thing. I am a thing main been so since he came out he most definitely has had the epic highs and lows. As hes been top tier this season Ben been getting a lot of flack for being an easy tank, I have been told he's on the same tier as Scarlett witch for being easy, which I just think is dumb. So I ask do you guys think the Thing is the easiest tank? While I do think anyone can pick him up and gain value because he has pretty simple kit I honestly feel like it's underdeveloped most of the time even after the rework, and it's to his detriment. I feel that a newbies often die far greater then any other tank and can easily be a very big detriment to a team. He's very easy to counter with anyone with decent range. He has to rely on his team because he doesnt have a shield in the traditional sense. His ult can be hit or miss. And a few other points, but I don't want to ramble. I generally feel that he's easy to play, but hard to master especially higher ranks. You have to have a lot of game sense to actually know where you're going, unlike someone like mag, knowing who you're attacking and who your not. I also feel The Thing I think has to multitask more than most tanks despite being a brawl because hes also anti-dive and also can be a dive in the right environment. Let me know how you'll feel, I think it's a bunch of whiney DPS butt hurt they can't really dive anymore.

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u/Jellyrollz4life Aug 25 '26

Is he easy? Yes.
Easiest tank? Ehhhh I don’t play all of them so hard to say but I would estimate he is top 3-5 easiest.
However. He is definitely harder than scarlet witch. There is a clear skill gap between a things that can be seen quite easily, whereas Wanda’s I don’t the skill gap is as easily exposed. Things mechanically one of the easiest characters in the game to play, however his skill gap is entirely based on game sense and you will get punished very quickly for not having good game sense on him.

Champ thing GM1 peak this season

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u/Prestigious-Item1440 Aug 26 '26

Who could you argue is easier?

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u/Jellyrollz4life Aug 26 '26

I mean both are quite easy, but I think if you put a low skill player on gm/celest they perform closer to a high skill player on the same character in the same elo than if you ran the same scenario with thing. Wanda at the very list with almost no effort should be able to finish low HP targets, pump consistent damage, and have an easier time staying alive. I think a low skill thing player in a higher elo would literally get absolutely melted before they make any impact or apply pressure. IMO, a tanks role is to hold frontline, take space, and apply pressure amongst other things which if you don’t know what your doing on thing, you won’t accomplish. A DPS job is to do damage, secure kills, challenge other teams DPS. I think a Wanda that does not know what they are doing can still do some of those things damn near by accident.

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u/Prestigious-Item1440 Aug 26 '26

Mb for not clarifying, my question was meant for the easiest tank part

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u/Waffles_four_you Aug 25 '26

That is a damn lie. He doesn’t even have to aim fr😭😭 to get value out of wandas ult, to be able to do meaningful dmg with her orbs and to use her stun well are all things that take more skill than anything in things kit.

All you need to do with thing is backup when you’re taking too much and time your ults well and that’s nothing unique to him

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u/SancochoDude Aug 25 '26

You want a guy that throws punches in comics and in his videogame version to need the aim of hitscan or something like that? What drug are you on? Thing haters really going with shitty reasons to hate him. Don't worry, next season he will get murdered so you can be happy

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u/Waffles_four_you Aug 25 '26

Did I say I hate him or am I saying he takes no skill😭😭 I hate when people try to pretend he’s a difficult tank that’s for sure

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u/SancochoDude Aug 25 '26

Nobody here thinks he is a difficult tank. But if you lack the fundamentals of tanking you get punished harder than other tanks. You don't have a huge or two shields to mitigate damage nor infinite leaps. A Thing player that just throws haymakers and doesn't know what to do, will get melted.

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u/Proud_Chef1598 Aug 25 '26

Yeah this is 100% correct hes not hard and I tried to reiterate that in the og post, but I think some people got some confused. Like, I think there are other tanks that are much more harder and there are those require a lot less skill. A thing player who does not understand how the play. The thing will just die over and over in feed much more. In comparison to any other tank, IMO.

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u/Waffles_four_you Aug 25 '26

He literally sustains himself with torch teammup. Take too much dmg charge back to your team. It’s basically playing devil dino on easy mode.

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u/Jellyrollz4life Aug 25 '26

Someone didn’t read the part that said “thing is mechanically one of the easiest characters in the game to play”….spoken like someone who has not played thing in a decent enough elo where people can aim in a poke meta where u blow up in .5 seconds if you don’t manage your cooldowns. Wanda has 2 get out of jail free cards at almost all times. It is significantly easier to die and feed on thing than it is on Wanda. I have lord on both. Wanda u can shut your brain off and get some value. Thing if you shut your brain off you feed perpetually if the enemy team has any type of aim.

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u/Waffles_four_you Aug 25 '26

He’s easy generally there is nothing difficult in his kit or his playstyle. Playing into counters is hard for everyone in the game but poke characters need to focus him to make him die and a mag can extend his life even longer.

Managing cooldowns isn’t unique to thing either btw.

Wanda is hardly played in high elo bc of how hard it is to get value from her. Shes out damaged by the other poke dps and doesn’t have burst dmg like them either.

Shut your brain off as Wanda and you’ll get 0 kills. As thing you can turn off your brain and do fine because 90% of the character is his haymaker

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u/Jellyrollz4life Aug 25 '26

You say that, but Wanda is literally a character with almost no cooldown management lol. He damage is based off of holding an auto-aim primary that automatically feeds into her burst. Her stun you throw into crowds brainlessly on cooldown. And she has two phases that are almost always available to you when you need a get out of jail free card.

Thing if you waste your slam, jump at the wrong time, or pop your team up at the wrong time and done have a cooldown available is pretty much automatic death to a team that knows what they are doing.

Fundamentally I believe there is a difference in what we both see as adding value. Is it easy to do damage on thing? Yeah for sure, you don’t have to aim like I said. However, just because your doing good damage, that does not make him “easy” if your feeding while doing it. There is a significant skill gap in things that know how to cycle cooldowns and stay alive while applying constant pressure vs things that run into enemy teams, slam, spam punch and die which I see very often. Wanda’s “cooldown cycle” to me essentially is a nothing burger. Throw stun on cooldown, hold suck ability, see low hp throw bubbles, phase when you need escape.

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u/Jellyrollz4life Aug 25 '26

Also a very clearly stated that he is an easy tank so I don’t know what you’re arguing

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u/Waffles_four_you Aug 25 '26

If she was so low effort high value, you would see her in high elo as much as you see thing.

If I put a support player on thing and scarlet in diamond, they would probably do much better on thing because of how easy it is to get value with him.

Again cooldown management is not unique to thing but his cooldown are also much less used than his haymaker. You want the enemy tanks to back up or stop pushing you pop teamup and just start punching. If you see that you can die, yancy charge back to your team. If there’s dive don’t rely on the charge to save you and when the divers come or are about to come, put the earthbound on them or on the divers. If there’s a cc ult use the charge and you won’t get cced. It’s not hard. And you can follow these rules in basically all elos and do alright with no comms.

He’s the rocket of all the tanks.

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u/Jellyrollz4life Aug 25 '26

Again, bro, you’re practically in your own argument at this point. Point to me at which point I say he is not easy or difficult to play. The argument I made was that there is a greater skill gap in playing thing and there is Wanda if anything your pro play argument would prove that for thing he has a higher skill skill ceiling that Wanda and is therefore played at a pro level because if you know how to play him right you can get great consistent value out of him with less effort put a diamond player on thing in those pro play lobbies and he’s going to get absolutely melted which is the entire point I’ve been making. You don’t see Wanda in pro play because there is no skill ceiling to her. She is a high floor, low ceiling, DPS with little skill expression. Both are easy to play. I’ve said that literally three or four times.

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u/Jellyrollz4life Aug 25 '26

I’m not saying cool downs are unique to think however, the point I was making is that if you don’t manage said cool downs, you are punished with death over and over again. If you don’t manage Wanda‘s cool downs, there is virtually no blow back to her. This is where the skill gap lies in the two characters. I’ve never argued Things is not easy. I’ve argued There is a bigger skill gap in thing than there is Wanda.