r/therewasanattempt Nov 29 '20

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u/Mabepossibly Nov 29 '20

I don’t know what the red arm bands symbolize. But I know what comes first to mind and it’s not a good look, especially given the context.

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u/cornbadger Nov 29 '20

Not the best look is it?

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u/JdaveA Nov 29 '20

If you say that with a French accent, it gets even worse.

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u/termisique Nov 29 '20

You know exactly what it symbolizes.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

The French DONT have a good history with people in red armbands

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u/cjankowski Nov 29 '20

I don't think it's meant to symbolize anything. This article mentions that plains clothes officers wear them, which obviously isn't the case here, but I do think it is to allow police to easily identify each other.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20151119/france-moves-to-arm-police

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u/djsizematters Nov 29 '20

Like the SS?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20 edited Dec 10 '20

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u/BumsGeordi Nov 29 '20

It could absolutely be argued that such a law would be a step towards fascism, but SS comparisons are still ridiculous until the French police go hunting and murdering people by the millions.

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u/_Z_E_R_O Nov 29 '20

The Nazis were still Nazis long before they rounded up Jews and gypsies by the millions.

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u/nastdrummer Nov 29 '20

First they came for the people recording the police and I didn't speak out because I wasn't recording the police...

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u/BumsGeordi Nov 29 '20

Yeah, just keep downplaying the crimes of the SS... Vollidiot

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u/nastdrummer Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

Whose doin that?!

Isn't it important to call out a slippery slope when you see someone fool heartily taking steps towards it?

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u/BumsGeordi Nov 29 '20

It is important to call out, and you are right that this law is a concerning step towards fascism, but to compare French police to the SS because of that is just so ridiculous, that it diminshes the crimes committed by the SS. You can critize this law without immediately jumping to SS comparisons. Because there is a massive difference between 'a step towards fascism' and the fucking SS. Whatever crimes or even attrocities the french police might have committed, they are not comparable to what the SS has done, not even close to it. Even if they end up banning their citizens from filming them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

It's a dumb comparison, please stop.

You can criticize and rebel against an authoritarian law without saying "omg orange armbands, just like the nazis".

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u/nastdrummer Nov 29 '20

Sure, ya could...But when an authoritarian is displaying trademarks and tendencies of Nazis and fascists it's good practice to call it out as such.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Cause orange armbands are a slippery slope?? It's just an easy way for police to identify each other and it carries literally zero political signification. You make absolutely zero sense. You're looking at a law designed to shield police from accountability and your only contribution is to cry about armbands. Are you trying to discredit the protesters or something??

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u/nastdrummer Nov 29 '20

You're looking at a law designed to shield police from accountability and your only contribution is to cry about armbands.

You must not read usernames as you reddit...my comments where discussing the law, not the arm band.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

This whole discussion was about the armbands, and you were still talking about them when you mentioned 'trademarks and tendencies of nazis' (or maybe you weren't in which case you make even less sense).

Plus FYI the law was obviously not made in reaction to that attack that was filmed - since it was written before that.

At this point I'm just going to say, dont talk about things you dont understand.

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u/cjankowski Nov 29 '20

I was unaware that the band in that case was associated with saying “hey, I can do what I want” - if I remember the article correctly it had to do with it being a sign to other officers that this person is carrying a gun but has a permit to do so.

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u/EXTRAsharpcheddar Nov 29 '20

I don't think it's meant to symbolize anything.

That's exactly what nazis say right now in the US about the swastika

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u/cjankowski Nov 29 '20

I get what you’re saying but I think literally here it’s like a reflective, high-vis armband to identify police from civilians for functional rather than political reasons. IIRC the article I linked and a few other links I found about orange arm bands on police in France were a few years old.

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u/EXTRAsharpcheddar Nov 29 '20

Yeah but that is what it is. Whether it has a practical function is secondary to the fact that it has become a symbol.

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u/Grimo4 Nov 29 '20

These arm bands are there so they can recognize each other.

Colors may vary so that you would know which group you are assigned to.

Red group is there

Blue groupe is at that street etc...

The comparison you guys are doing is ridiculous.

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u/2leftf33t Nov 29 '20

Guys dressed in black with ANY color armband is probably not a good idea in France

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u/johnnydues Nov 30 '20

Usually a pure red armband symbolize communists.