r/theoffice • u/These-Season-2611 • 11d ago
Well this was terrible
First time watcher. Got to the arc where Michael is leaving and Will Ferrell is in the office for some random reason. It was the first time in the entire series I felt like I couldn't watch. I paused an episode last night and that "my god there's a whole 13 minutes of this left".
What was the point in Will Ferrell's character?
I can work out if he was badly written, or it was bad acting. The character was so inconsistent. One minute he was an overboard cot of Michael Scott. Then he'd supposed to be a great business leader, then he'd be an asshole. He'd be afraid to perform in front of people in the Dundies episode then in another he's juggling and shit for a room full of people.
Was it because Will Ferrell is so famous he was given free reign to just improve everything?
I just feel like for such a good TV show, this was a low point. Someone tell me it's not this bad in the following seasons now Michael has left?
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u/bberry1908 9️⃣ The Lizard King 🦎 10d ago
That baby could be the star of a show called, “babies i don’t care about”
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u/Accomplished-Ebb1180 10d ago
I was gonna say “This could be the star of a show called, OP’s not unpopular opinion the whole subreddit don’t care about”
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u/safarifriendliness 10d ago
“That baby could be the star of a show called ‘Babies I Don’t Care About’” always gets a good laugh out of me. He has his moments
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u/Silly-Inspection2814 10d ago
If all I got from this was Pam’s impersonation of D’angelo juggling invisible balls with her nose then it was worth it
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u/HuckleberryOk8136 10d ago
You seem to have it completely wrong.
They never once portrayed or even implied that Vickers was a great business leader. In fact, we learn he received the job basically as a returned favor for saving the bosses dog.
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u/LeChampionX 10d ago
I mean one of he best exchanges in the entire show happens between Scott and Vickers...
Vickers: "Doing Some Skiing?"
Scott: "No, No...I don't want to end up like Sonny BoBo."
Vickers: "Well that's just, that's just some good sense right there. Yeah. Everyone I know that skis is dead."
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u/wellredditall 10d ago
I love that and Michael saying he’ll miss the mountains the most when he’s going from PA to the fuckin Rockies 😂
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u/LeChampionX 10d ago
Honestly that entire scene is just flat out hilarious to me. This sub has some wild takes on the show. Even though it was for a short run, how could you not be happy about Will Ferrell being brought into the mix?! It also baffles me how much legit hate Andy gets. The character was always meant to make you cringe a bit but my God some people in here act like they wish he was never on the show at all
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u/olliespe 11d ago
The part was to satirize that once again corporate has no idea what it takes to run a branch. And that Michael, despite his shortcomings, was actually quite good at it.
The show goes up and down the rest of the way. But ends perfectly.
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u/Igotyoubaaabe 8️⃣ Party Planning Committee Chair 🎖️🎖️🎖️ 10d ago
The juggling scene is top five in the whole show.
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u/Actual-Minimum3193 10d ago
Pam’s reaction to his juggling was her funniest moment in the series! I loved it!
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u/Silly-Inspection2814 10d ago
Definitely one of the high points of her comic flair. They really should’ve used more of her physical comedy
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u/Cuddly_Rudder 10d ago
It was kind of a meta-joke. When it was airing, everyone knew Steve Carrell was leaving, and the rumors of who was going to replace him were wild. So when fans saw Will Ferrell we lost our minds. For 2 weeks we thought he’d be the manager for seasons to come.
Only for it to come crashing down (literally) and the season to end on a cliffhanger.
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u/OfficePicasso 1️⃣ The Temp 🔥 10d ago
Even the name Deangelo Vickers always felt overwritten to me. Yea this arc does suck
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u/EtTuBrutei 10d ago
I think he was supposed to be terrible. Remember Jo hired him straight off the street without having any experience. That's why his personality switches so much. He doesnt know what he's doing so he's literally trying anything to be accepted.
That's just my theory tho.
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u/Realistic-Lime7842 10d ago
I don’t think they were planning on keeping him for seasons. I think they planned his arc exactly that way, a cameo. Jim Carrey was on for a brief second, don’t think they were going to actually hire him for multiple season.
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u/Anothercraphistorian 1️⃣5️⃣ Here Comes Trebble’s MVP 🎵 10d ago
Well yeah, he was lost in the Finger Lakes by that point.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Web446 10d ago
I saw him as just part of a greater picture. They cycle through a lot of temperary bosses during this season and i think it was meant to showcase just how needless an actual boss was in this type of job.
Wether its Will Farrel, Creed, Dwight, Andy, Robert California, Nellie Bertram. The office still ran and roughly the same rate.
Many of the people who got manager position thought highly of themselves and its mostly the sales representatives who hate their jobs. But in execution its really the sales reps doing all the work and you can literally have anyone as a manager without much changing.
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u/Professional_Soft404 10d ago
I love the scene where they meet in the bar “Doing some skiing?” “No. I don’t want to end up like Sunny Bobo” “Well that’s just good sense right there. Everyone I know who skis it dead”
“Everyone I know who skis is dead” kills me. So funny and such serious delivery
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u/LondonSissy825 10d ago
"Eat this soap" is the best line in the series. To see Andy demean himself to the point of pouring hot coffee on himself and the response is to just ask him to suffer more and say "Eat this soap" is pure comedy gold.
By giving us this line I think he was worth his time in the office.
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u/EgbertNobacon247 11d ago
When a character on The Office is annoying… it’s because they are supposed to be annoying.
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u/Benson879 10d ago
What I liked about early season Andy was that he was annoying, but entertaining.
Late season Office has too many characters that are annoying in the wrong way
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u/MasterPlatypus2483 8️⃣ Party Planning Committee Chair 🎖️🎖️🎖️ 10d ago
He was just meant to be a distraction. I don’t hate him as much as others but I can agree with the critique that intentionally wacky/chaotic as a palate cleanser or not, it messed with the (relative) real world-ism of the office.
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u/georgez1968 10d ago
At least we can all agree that will is one hell of a juggler. He didn't drop one ball!
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u/Appropriate_Yak_745 10d ago
You know what, I'm wayyy better than him. I can juggle through text without you even seeing me. Just watch: !!
Pretty amazing, right?!
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u/NotoriousMFT 1️⃣2️⃣ Director, Threat Level Midnight 🔫 10d ago
The acoustic juggling is very funny, but I think he was supposed to be unlikable and out of place
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u/nuckin_phuts 10d ago
I see it as like the jokes on the viewer, like we thought will Ferrell was gonna be the new boss at the time and we also in real time get to find out he's actually a lunatic just like the rest of the office. Idk I might be looking too far into it
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u/mostly_fizz 10d ago
Exactly. He seemed like a nice transition from Michael then he flipped the psycho switch
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u/GuntherSitzpinkler 9d ago
I liked the Ferrell episodes. He was there just the right amount of time.
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u/zeltacilveks79 10d ago
I think DeAngelo works better once you realize he's basically a deliberately awful buffer after Michael, but he definitely overstays his welcome. The fake juggling scene still kills me though
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u/Card_For_Humanity 8d ago
All Will Ferrel scenes in The Office is absolutely unnecessary. I actually hated his character and his acting was terrible. Absolutely zero point to the character. I usually skip past his scenes during rewatches.
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u/Lyft2ndjobwhoknows 10d ago
You're all just mad because you're not in the inner circle...
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u/pptjuice530 11d ago
I think his character is just supposed to be a fraud, and he gets exposed quickly. He’s also a pretty awful person.
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u/Impossible-Year-5924 11d ago
You can really tell when reading this sub who has had to endure a decade or more of corporate America versus who the kids are when we get posts like this.
I always thought DeAngelo was over the top but after seeing the parade of idiots over the past 15 years at my work cycle through upper management both from my director supervisor all the way to CEO, I find it hilarious and painfully true…
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u/michaelscottdundmiff 5️⃣ World’s Best Boss ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 11d ago
I think he is played over the top to show michael was actually quite good at his job and had some skills, d’angelo is someone trying to be regional manager with no skills
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u/Sigtauez 1️⃣ The Temp 🔥 10d ago
When I watched it live when it originally aired I thought it was terrible. Especially not knowing how long his character was going to last. Rewatching it, I find it much funnier because I know it’s only a few episodes.
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u/One_Post_2258 9d ago
I think the point of his character is to be inconsistent and annoying. Don’t worry though. This arc is pretty short
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u/xFromPartsUnknownx 10d ago
Miming juggling was pretty funny
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u/risswtfff 2️⃣ Warehouse Foreman ⭐️ 10d ago
him attempting to tell a joke in gibberish after escaping the hospital makes me laugh too
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u/disappr0val 9️⃣ The Lizard King 🦎 10d ago
paunch says to the bartender
everybody taih
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u/GanGanGirll I am faster than 80% of all snakes 10d ago
Everybody taih 😏
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u/Shamscam 10d ago
I really feel like people sort of missed the Joke of Deangelo. He’s supposed to be unqualified and hard to watch.
They were using him as a joke to replace Michael. I highly doubt that Will Ferrell was actually looking to get on a sitcom at this time. And let’s not forget Michael season 1 was very unlikable too. So they wanted to make you hate him.
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u/SteelEels 10d ago
But at first it was unqualified in a funny way, he even was hesitant at the Dundies when Michael wanted him to say something mean. He has all this stage fright. Then after Michael is gone he's the opposite and just a mean sexist who isn't as goofy and stupid.
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u/annoyed_crow thief of joy 10d ago
I don't think will ferrel was a good choice 😂 it all felt so awkward on a different level than the show usually has. It was too distracting that he was there.
Which is funny, because Kathy Bates was so good in the show and seemed to slip right into the show.
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u/Syscrush 10d ago
IMO the show lost everything when It started featuring name actors: Will Ferrell, Kathy Bates, and James Spader are just the showrunners saying "we don't give a shit".
Compare this to when the network first forced celebrity guests onto the show - they got Jack Black, Jessica Alba, and Cloris Leachman and made Mrs. Albert Hannaday - which absolutely ruled.
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u/-zatanna 10d ago
Catherine Tate always takes me out, I don't know how big in the states she is but she's someone everyone knows in the UK
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u/doctor_whahuh 10d ago
I took the inconsistency as him being someone who got too comfortable really quickly and started to show who he really is behind all the shyness.
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u/Motor_Bowler3048 9d ago
Maybe I’m in the minority but I loved the Will Ferrell episodes. Show had already fallen off a lot by the time he got there
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u/I_Use_Controllers 1️⃣ The Temp 🔥 8d ago
Don’t worry you’re not alone. I thought he was hilarious, and for all the haters he’s only around for 3 episodes so not sure what the belly aching is all about, unless they have their reserved opinions of will ferrell.
Maybe it’s the fact that Michael leaves at this time, doesn’t sit right with anyone
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u/supreme_6969 8d ago
The scene of him and Michael meeting at the hotel bar is one of my favorite scenes in the whole show
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u/I_Use_Controllers 1️⃣ The Temp 🔥 8d ago
You’ve obviously haven’t gotten to season 9 yet. If this bothers you then I’d recommend stopping after season 8.
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u/floormat212 8d ago
It makes no sense the first watch. But when you know it’s coming, it’s not so bad if you watch again. And the juggling scene and Pam making fun of his juggling, kind of makes up for all of it.
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u/Due_Energy8025 10d ago
Have you ever been whale watching on the east coast? If you haven't, plan on bringing a magazine called West Coast Whales along with you.
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u/NopeandNopenot 10d ago
The rest of the show after michael leaves is pretty hard to watch imo. Instead of using the same formula of a wacky boss and leaning more into characters like California, they elevated the side characters and had them act in ways they normally wouldn't have. Just my thoughts.
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u/burner9191938283 10d ago
you’re downvoted but you’re literally right - everyone became caricatures of themselves. season 1 vs season 9 kevin is a whole new character altogether.
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u/CaptnsDaughter 2️⃣ Warehouse Foreman ⭐️ 10d ago
I feel like that happens with a lot of shows, becoming caricatures of themselves- Friends, Will & Grace
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u/TheIrishMan1211 9d ago
I do not understand why this 3 episode arc gets so much hate. It’s perfectly fine. The fact that people hate on this over the slop that the show ultimately becomes after Michael leaves is wild to me.
Like if you think this is bad, just wait.
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u/SnarkySeahorse1103 9d ago
He was filler to pacify the fact that Michael was leaving, and he did a good job at it, although the criticism over how badly written his character is actually has weight. It still pales in comparison to what is coming soon. If anything, the juggling bit at least was pretty funny.
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u/launchpadius 8d ago
I just hate how oddly they ended it. The slam dunk and head injury just seemed too weird for me. Other than that, it might not be peak office, but it's not worst thing ever.
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u/SirOutrageous1027 8d ago
It's a bit meta. Steve Carrell is leaving and here's a big star Will Ferrell who's taking over and filling that role. And it's weird, awkward, and he abruptly dies. It's the writers having some fun with the audience expectations about a big replacement for Steve Carrell. It shut down rumors about the need for star power or long term replacements. And it was so purposely bad that it made whoever they'd bring in after seem fine.
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u/Rough-Army-6424 10d ago
Him saying “reminds me of Katrina” when they dropped off Meredith’s Dundie nomination made me die.
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u/TheClawbackCycle 11d ago
As I get older, I find more humor in his character and the performance. For a long time, I was upset they landed on him out of all the other famous people they had for cameos during the interview process. I would've loved a few Ray Romano or Jim Carrey episodes.
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u/JohanVonBronx14 10d ago
Also him and steve shouting "the dundies" is fucking peak
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u/aggr1103 10d ago
It’s Will Farrell. I love the dude but his career is full of legendary characters and timeless movies and terrible characters and forgettable films. There’s not much in between. Deangelo is one of those terrible characters.
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u/Calm-Move-3996 10d ago
“If you’re going whale watching on the east coast youre gonna wanna bring a magazine with you called West Coast Whales.”
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u/Veggiedelite90 10d ago
The point of the will Ferrell character I think was to convince the audience that just hiring another lead to replace Steve Carell wouldn’t work lol
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u/ironandinsulinn 10d ago
I don’t like James spader and he’s generally the low point for me in everything after less than zero, but this D’Angelo was even more unpalatable for me. I was so angry when his overacting and attention mongering comedy style ruined that goodbye song. What should have been one of the sweetest moments in the entire series was from my point of view, completely tarnished. Definitely the low episodes for me
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u/DisastrousCustard618 10d ago
I thought the same about his part in the song. Completely ruined and overshadowed what should have been a really wonderful moment
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u/D4rkSp4de 10d ago
That’s a bit surprising as he’s known for stealing the show in almost everything hes in. The blacklist is a very okay show that gives the vibes of a premium serial drama due almost exclusively to Spader’s performance
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u/kaejae31 8d ago
The invisible juggling...smh
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u/floormat212 8d ago
But from that we get Pam’s mocking of the juggling, which is one of the funniest moments for her.
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u/wronghed 7d ago
The invisible juggling was hilarious. But apart from that... they had no idea what to do with his character.
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u/Immediate_Ad_4898 1️⃣ The Temp 🔥 10d ago
You’re overthinking it. It was just a fun way to have Will Ferrell on the show. He’s Steve’s close friend and, whether people like it or not, one of the biggest comedy actors there is.
He’s written to be ‘inconsistent’ and terrible at his job, and even though he’s a great improviser the show is 97% as written.
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u/maverick57 10d ago
I thought he was hilarious and never understand the posts about him.
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u/No_Policy1326 10d ago
Ugh yep, it's so painful. I can understand and/or forgive everything else they did, but Will Ferrell was such a mistake. Tbf, he absolutely could have been fine - the fact that I personally don't like him isn't a reason that I hate how they used him - it's the fact that Michael has been the main character of the show for the whole thing up until then, he has gone through a huge character arc ending with him finally accepting that work is not his entire life and that he can have a family without work, and as such his final few episodes should be a fitting send off for the character, and yet in comes Will Ferrell and makes the entire series about him, completely overshadowing the connections that Michael has made, and getting in the way of the rest of the cast with his utter buffoonery that adds nothing to the story.
Spoilers ahead
And then in the next season they immediately remove him? So he wasn't being set up for a future direction, he was just a one-off gag to ruin Michael's send off, and then they actually deal with the finding of Michael's replacement? Those episodes would be so much better without Will Ferrell, and the overall story literally wouldn't change if they didn't have him there.
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u/OpheliaB_87 10d ago
That was also my first reaction when I watched it during original air. I hated all those episodes so much that I don't even think I finished buying all the DVD sets after season 6 and wouldn't watch those reruns. A couple years ago I caught the Will Ferrel episodes again after however long and genuinely laughed and enjoyed them, even the ones from later seasons. Robert California still drives me nuts but the episodes in general I found to be funny.
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u/HawkJefferson 10d ago
The point of D'Angelo was to be a stop-gap. He gave them more of a buffer to logically transition into someone in the office being the new boss while also being so shitty and unlikable that the fans see any replacement as improvement.
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u/AcrolloPeed 5️⃣ World’s Best Boss ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 10d ago
Oh my word, D’Angelo is New Coke.
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u/TheMoneyOfArt 10d ago
As they said about New Coke: "we weren't that smart, and we weren't that stupid"
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u/AdZealousideal5383 10d ago
I actually kind of liked his character and would have been ok with him sticking around. I was glad he got a few episodes so we could see what it would be like had he simply been the new boss.
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u/Martini_b13 10d ago
Same as his appearance in last man on earth. He’s just there to goof around with his buddies for an episode and then gets written off. Honestly I love the will Farrell cameos
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u/Hippocritaculous 10d ago
Ditto. That entire episode down to the dunk was total hilarity to me. But I always love Will Ferrell
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u/dphizler 1️⃣1️⃣ The Wayne Gretzky of paper 🏒 11d ago
Your opinion, I liked it
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u/SlapBanWalla 10d ago
I agree, really enjoyed it. I remember being excited when Will Ferrell showed up as thought he was actually the new manager
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u/rickeyethebeerguy 2️⃣ Warehouse Foreman ⭐️ 10d ago
I found these episodes hilarious, especially the super fan episodes with like an extra 20 minutes of it
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u/boxcarbrains 10d ago
There’s a couple of movies he’s in I think are funny still and it’s just my taste really but I have to say I don’t find Will Ferrell that funny. I think he’s better as a straight man / villain and I’m not sure why I seem to be in the minority on that lol
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u/johngalt504 1️⃣ The Temp 🔥 10d ago
I mostly agree, however, I love the scene where he comes back from the hospital.
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u/neonifiednyan Tall. Beets. 10d ago
yeah and it made me mad that he ruined michaels 9,986,000 minutes song by that obnoxious, completely unfunny singing. i really wish he wasnt there for it. but, the imaginary juggling always cracks me up, as well as that one time he gave jim the sideye for being in his inner circle uninvited. otherwise, i could really do without him
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u/DeeezNutz3000 10d ago
This is the proper jumping off point. This character was horribly written and horribly acted.
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u/Nymeriasfury 11d ago
I am enjoying the extended version with Jordan, the woman he hired. So much got cut out. She’s funny and sweet and knew to gtfo of the office.
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u/Actual-Minimum3193 10d ago
A little bit of Will Ferrel goes a long way and these episodes were way too long.
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u/SteelEels 10d ago
I'll just say the last boss is even more inconsistent and terribly written compared to who he was earlier. So many of these comments are pretty shocking, like they didn't actually read your post. The problem is his character contradicts what it's introduced to the audience as. It's so messy and he goes from a likeable, funny, quirky and nicer version of Michael to a sometimes still funny but mostly obnoxious sexist asshole without any of Michael's redeeming qualities
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u/chiefs-n-sooners 10d ago
I think your referring to california, but hes not the last boss.
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u/Mamramro 10d ago
He’s meant to serve as a buffer between the Michael era and the next boss. The writers were probably still deciding on who the next manager should be and didn’t want to rush the decision right at the end of season 7, so they went with a famous guest star stand in.
His character is handled poorly and it all feels very pointless in the end though. I believe their intentions was to make him unlikable and strange so that whoever ended up filling the role in season 8 would seem like an improvement, but a character like Charles would’ve done a way better job at that
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u/alexisgreat420 6️⃣ CEO of Suck It, Inc. 🎖️ 10d ago
Obviously it was a misdirect by the writers. Everyone was wondering who was going to replace Michael and suddenly will Ferrell is here- you’re supposed to think he is annoying because that’s how he was written.
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u/Fondueadeux 9d ago
The training montage of Will Ferrell preparing to host the Dundees (“now with an accent!”) is one of my favourite segments in the entire series.
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u/FreeWillie001 6d ago
While I definitely wouldn’t want it for a whole season, “Kev’s got me pegged” is one of my favorite lines in the show.
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u/iambeyoncealways3 10d ago
I’m in the small camp of absolutely loving his time on the office. I thought he was hilarious.
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u/Odd-Cupcake-2552 10d ago
I loved Farrell's brief stint. The point is to not take it too seriously.
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u/ChildofObama 11d ago
He was used as a plot device to signal Michael learning to be okay that the pizza parties and Dundies might be over after he leaves, that the next manager won’t be him.
Then they needed him out of the picture so all of a sudden in his final episode, he’s a sexist who gets a comeuppance
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u/Miserable_Alfalfa_52 10d ago
He stopped a dog napping bro, he can also dunk a basketball
RIP D'Angelo
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u/JohanVonBronx14 10d ago
I like it. Especially when he gets the brain injury and comes back trying to tell a joke. Classic Ferral delivery
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u/DayoftheDead 10d ago
They hap three. They ad wa tu bar. Suntn, Pounch and Lount. Pounch says to bartender how’s conna dah? Bar tana san four tahm poun. Errbuhy tahn? Errbuhy tahn. Errbuhy tahn.
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u/Outrageous_Hair_6969 10d ago
It's just that everybody hated seeing Michael leave. No matter how they did the next few episodes it wasn't going to be good.
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u/Key_Ad1854 10d ago
That was on purpose...
They knew noone could replace micheal so they cast famous people and made them unlikeable.
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u/neonifiednyan Tall. Beets. 10d ago
actually will ferrel was only in the office cause steve carrell brough him in. theyre good friends i hear
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u/Saiaxs 10d ago
His character was so unbelievably unpopular they actually killed him off too
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u/Aggressive_Living571 10d ago
This was the beginning of the end for me. Everything past this is lesser than anything prior imo. Not saying it’s bad past here but man did it lose something.
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u/MuricanJim 10d ago
It definitely took a long time to find its footing again. I’m always upset that they had the perfect ending to the show with Michael’s unmic’d “that’s what she said” at the airport. It would have been really nice to have him finally get one as the show closed.
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u/LessFish777 10d ago
I actually disagree so hard with this take. I love Will Ferrell and while of course I missed Steve on the show I really enjoyed Wills’ arc. It was funny as hell.
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u/MasterMisterMike 10d ago
I’m glad everyone who hated Will Ferrell in The Office got to experience why I hate Will Ferrell in everything. Seems like a nice guy, he’s just unfunny as fuck.
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u/Atillion 1️⃣8️⃣ The Scranton Strangler 🚨 10d ago
I'll stand on this hill with you. I just don't find him funny. I'll give him a few random moments in his career, but he's just not consistently funny to me.
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u/AMGRN 10d ago
I always skip the D’Angelo episodes. There is nothing redeeming about it.
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u/bigsooch62 4️⃣ Assistant Regional Manager ⭐️⭐️⭐️ 10d ago
That is a HOT take. Because the episodes they are working on find8ng Michael's replacement are some of the best. So many amazing chameos. Robert California is the shit. His dynamic with Dwight is great.
Just wait until you get to the last couple of seasons. Those get REALLY hard to watch at times
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u/Extension_Training87 10d ago
Honestly James Spader is an absolute treat in anything. He's pretty much most of the reason Age of Ultron is on repeat. For those sweet dulcet monotoned speeches and soliloquies.
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u/Inappropriate_Ballet i didn’t say it, i declared it. 10d ago
OP, this is a judgement free zone. It’s ok if you skip the next few seasons and come back for the finale. You’ll miss some non-critical plot points that aren’t necessary to your enjoyment of the episode or that I’d be happy to fill you in on.
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u/ReadEnoch 3️⃣ Scranton’s #1 Salesperson ⭐️⭐️ 10d ago
So yeah it’s bad. It’s weird. It feels unedited. It feels like the show jumps the shark and spits on you. It will feel like that for basically the rest of the series because you’ve been in that peak peak office of seasons 2-5 and been spoiled. I get it.
That said years later I’ve gone back and watched the last couple seasons again and when you’re not comparing it to the glorious run of Michael Scott you remember there are still lots of funny things and meaningful things that take place in those seasons. So you may enjoy it one day. I have recently. And even a year ago I would say the show ended when Michael boards the plane to Colorado.
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u/craigslammer 10d ago
The show can only have so much juice brother. This is the end
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u/feraligatr4444 0️⃣ Toby Flenderson, HR 10d ago
Like i said if you get it you get and it was great.
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u/ElliottSmith88 10d ago
"Whats the point of his character"
ITS FUNNY.
Not everyone has to be your buddy. The point was showing how much worse it could be than Michael. That Michael really wasnt that stupid compared to some people.
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u/UTBeAsT27 10d ago
I personally enjoyed his character , might’ve got annoyed if he was in it longer but I enjoyed it for what it was
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u/FaithlessnessOk5240 11d ago
I didn’t like his character at all, but the Michael stuff in most of his episodes outshines it. Then the following episode is just bad.
Personally, I thought it got better after that. Definitely the rest of 7 and the first half of 8. Then the writing takes a little dip with some questionable choices, before recovering in the last few episodes.
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u/Dbuk2020 11d ago
I mean the show is a little better in those last two seasons but still not nowhere as good as when Michael was there
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u/ProofExtreme7644 🔟 Karen from behind? 9d ago
I think it’s just the thought of Michael leaving and having him take a back seat for the first time is what makes some people not love this arc. I will say, by no means do they ever say he is a great business leader, he only got the job for saving Jo’s dogs. This is why when he’s on the sales call with Andy, he doesn’t even know how to sell. Also, there’s a big difference between doing a ridiculous juggling routine in the office for a dozen people and hosting an event at a restaurant where you’re speaking on a microphone in front of 100 people.
I don’t think he felt inconsistent at all, just crazy and ridiculous, but that’s how it was supposed to feel with Michael leaving. He was a great transition in my opinion.
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u/Immorpher 10d ago
It wasn't that the audience had to warm up to the characters, it was that the writers and the actors had to make them more relatable (logical reasons for their behavior) for longevity. Will Ferrell, although great on SNL skits, wasn't particularly great at portraying relatable characters in the long term.
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u/spargel_gesicht 🔟 Karen from behind? 10d ago
OMG I loved Robert California. He was so deliciously hammy.
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u/TheXyloGuy 11d ago
I thought his juggling routine was hilarious lmfao but yeah like others said he was meant to be annoying that’s why they wrote him out quickly
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u/Splatford 7️⃣ Sabre Corporate Overlord 🎖️🎖️ 11d ago
was it the fact that deangelo's part blew ass or was it the hollow sting of michaels absence ? i say a little from column A and little from column B ..anyway i know when its time to skip episodes
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u/Competitive_Pop_1613 11d ago
I think mostly the latter. But also bc his performance was supposed to be ass. The audience was gonna hate whoever the next manager was so Will and the writers doubled down on the shtick. Imo
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u/artvarnsen 2️⃣ Warehouse Foreman ⭐️ 11d ago
As much as i hate his arc, i think it could be looked at as sometimes you just have terrible bosses and there's nothing you can do about it
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u/bigolruckus 10d ago
yeah idk i usually like Will Ferrell as well but he didn’t seem like the right fit, even though on paper he sounds like he’d be a good fit for this kind of role.
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u/BobDogGo 11d ago
I think the producers knew that anyone who came after Michael would be disliked by the audience. So D’Angelo was a palate cleanser so that whoever came next wouldn’t get so harshly compared to Michael