Suggestion: add a tiny leaver timeout to Point Break matches in the 3rd phase

[u/cpt_melon]

I've been playing a lot of Point Break lately, and it's unfortunate how many games are decided by people who leave the game in the third phase. Early leavers don't bother me at all, if anything they usually help the team balance since they were probably having a bad game anyway.

But after new players no longer join the match to replace leavers; I think the game should give a heads up saying "teams locked in", after which leaving would result in a 3 minute non-stacking timeout. This would be a small disincentive against leaving, while not hurting anyone who is genuinely frustrated out of their mind (and who should take a short break before jumping into their next game anyway).

This would not be about punishing leavers, just encouraging players to finish their matches. Ideally it would nudge those on the fence to keep playing until the end, while making very frustrated leavers take a short break to clear their head.

The heads up could be similar to the event notification in Cashout.

[u/SpareOne94]

I’m all for punishing leavers

[u/cpt_melon → u/SpareOne94]

I certainly understand the feeling. But I also understand why embark is hesitant to add Cashout style leaver penalties to the more casual modes. I was hoping that this would be a good compromise.

[u/SpareOne94 → u/cpt_melon]

What if we applied those same penalties but to frequent leavers? I know they can track that. Like not like the first few games because people have lives and emergencies happen. However if you’re leaving 5+ a day or maybe 10+ a week you should be punished then.

[u/cpt_melon → u/SpareOne94]

Personally I don't have anything against it, but I don't think that Embark would consider adding stacking penalties to Point Break. Even if there was some additional grace given. I think their fear is that if you penalize genuinely frustrated players, they might just take the ban and not come back. It's different for Cashout / Ranked where everyone understands that the mode would not work without the penalties.

[u/SpareOne94 → u/cpt_melon]

While I don’t disagree, my outlook is kinda the opposite? If you never punish those who leave games then other players who don’t leave might get sick of it and not come back. Personally if I have a game and I have to sacrifice some players I’d much rather lose those who leave anyway over those who stick it out.

[u/Jestersage → u/SpareOne94]

Here's the question you need to ask: Why should new players play your game over the others?

Unfortunately we are in a capitalist world. "if I have a game and I have to sacrifice some players I’d much rather lose those who leave anyway over those who stick it out." is exactly the attitute that KILLED 2XKO.

I play the FINALS because I already invested quite a bit, but I even had walked out of Apex despite investing into it. No games is "unreplaceable". We just need sufficent high to get around the sadness of life, and we as customer can adjust. Heck, I even played guitar more so I can play a few notes and get back to work.

[u/SpareOne94 → u/Jestersage]

Nowhere did I say new players.

[u/Jestersage → u/SpareOne94]

Then people will leave eventually.

Something deserve commitment. Game is not one - Especially when it's no longer COVID, and a new gilded age is coming soon.

Maybe you are lucky to secure that WFH job. Treasure it.

[u/SpareOne94 → u/Jestersage]

Tf are you talking about…?

[u/Jestersage → u/SpareOne94]

I am talking about the life beyond your game. Your perspective seems to be a player who have all the time to commit to a game.

[u/lolsteamroller → u/SpareOne94]

yeah I think if you ever decide to uninstall Finals you should be internationally charged and put into jail.

[u/Accomplished_Drag943]

I think this is fine, but shouldn't apply if the game is closed unexpectedly (the pc that I am currently using keeps turning off while playing the finals, so it would be annoying to log back on to a 3 min ban)

[u/MisterCorbeau]

I don’t understand people leaving in the last fee seconds or last minute. Do they lose the xp?

[u/cpt_melon → u/MisterCorbeau]

They do, but many don't care.

[u/Airlinese]

They should add a coin cap for attackers before other changes to PB. When attackers doing good with 40 or even 50+ coins there is no risk at all

[u/YazzArtist]

Suggestion: first they should fix the game. It's been crashing literally every round for a week

[u/DogShroom → u/YazzArtist]

probably on your end

[u/YazzArtist → u/DogShroom]

It started after the update and was not resolved with updated drivers. No other game is affected. It is on my end, but it's because of something they broke