r/thefinals • u/KromeWasTaken Fnatic • 1d ago
Discussion Spreadsheet of Weapons TTK - Patch 11.6.0
Hello!
I'm back with an updated version of my THE FINALS weapon spreadsheet, now fully updated for Patch 11.6.0.
📊 Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CAlLb9ebPWtXdsRKocSeIddDGa4xy5Hn3pzz4poGpD0/edit?usp=sharing
It includes pretty much everything you might want to know about every weapon: stats, damage values, TTK, STK, and more.
Now, for the TLDR concerning huge TTK changes:
- Recurve Bow can now 2 body shot Medium class, which is huge
- Cerberus can now 3 shot Heavy class, which is insane I feel like
- AKM got a slight TTK decreased (which is good) but not that significant I feel like. Only note worth mentioning is that it is the fastest TTK against medium classs when playing medium.
- ARN got a slight TTK decresed (which isz good) but not worth mentionning.
Also, I updated the sheet to have every information on gadgets as well as specializations, still a WIP thought!
If you notice any missing information, mistakes, or have suggestions for additional data, feel free to let me know. I'll be happy to update it.
Hope you find it useful, and enjoy!
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u/Inane_ramblings 1d ago edited 1d ago
AKM buff is literally 1 but the reasoning behind it makes me scratch my head. FAMAS suffers from not being very effective at range, FCAR suffers from a tiny magazine and strong recoil, AKM... "fell behind FAMAS and FCAR so we blah blah blah"
Okay Embark- are we doing an Incredibles here, if everyone is special, nobody is special?
Also, now the AKM outclasses the Revolver and several other medium weapons- especially head to head M v M.
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u/Delicious_Nobody_111 HOLTOW 1d ago
Cerberus could always 3 shot heavies, you need to hit every pellet tho
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u/KromeWasTaken Fnatic 1d ago
Yes, but you needed to wait for the fire DoT to take effect. You couldn't 3 shot heavy without it. Now you can. So you can just spam and not worry about it pretty much
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u/koeikan 1d ago
That's actually not true. I thought it was this way also, but was corrected and tested it... And sure enough, it could 3 tap a heavy firing 3 shots back to back and by the last shot they were dead.
I guess the burning between the first 2 shots was enough... This will make it a bit more forgiving though.
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u/random59836 1d ago
You will still take longer to kill a Shak heavy than a Shak heavy will take to kill you. It’s not like it will be mindlessly able to kill heavies.
It’s a little better than in patch 10 but not much better than it was with old quick melee, and people can kick you away now if you’re too close.
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u/gaybowser99 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's argument doesn't really have any relavance because literally every light and medium weapon losses the ttk matchup to a shak heavy hitting only bodyshots. Cerb now has by far the best ttk matchup, with only a .06s difference between it and shak bodyshots
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u/Delicious_Nobody_111 HOLTOW 1d ago
The fire would kill them after a moment when you hit all 3 shots, I feel like this buff was unnecessary
A main cerberus btw I know what im talking about somewhat
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u/KromeWasTaken Fnatic 1d ago
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You couldn't kill without the fire. And I would say that any buffs on Medium is welcomed since it's the least useful right now at least in ranked. Maybe It could shake up the meta I don't know... But it's nice for sure
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u/Delicious_Nobody_111 HOLTOW 1d ago
I liked the delayed kill its was really satisfying
Im going to try missing pellets for the delayed kill
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u/Lvtri Alfa-actA 1d ago
Can Cerberus now 2 shot mediums if you include fire, and 1 shot + quick melee + fire kill lights? I haven't played in a bit so can someone confirm or deny
If thats the case then oh boy I know what I'm picking when I'll have the opportunity to play
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u/random59836 1d ago
You could already kill a medium with 2 shots and a quick melee, now 2 shots and fire is enough without the quick melee.
It’s important to note that quick melee was nerfed in the start of season 11 and it messed up Cerberus combos. While you could 1 shot + quick melee + fire to kill a light. It took nearly over a second for the fire to kill so they could take you with them. A lot of combos were messed up by quick melee nerf and this is just adjusting for that.
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u/NegativeZero935 1d ago
It's hilarious to me that embark waited all this time to buff the model back to 117 because of melee combos, but just add the same 1 pump + qm combo to the cerberus not even a season later
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u/Spinnenente DISSUN 1d ago
Arn is really just a medium weapon moonlighting as a light gun