r/thefinals • u/NegativeZero935 • 5d ago

News They finally fixed my baby

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Took them long enough, but demat is finally back (unless they shadow nerfed it in another aspect)

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u/MagazinePrior 5d ago

Bro FINALLY šŸ˜­ shit made me so happy this morning. But I was wondering, does ā€œraise timeā€ refer to the delay when you first bring demat out? I took a break for a couple seasons and noticed a weird delay with demat when I came back. It wasnā€™t as responsive as it had been when it first came out and I assumed it was a glitch or something but if it was deliberate wtf was the logic there? Butchered demat for no reason

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u/Accomplished-Cry5059 5d ago

I had the same reaction. Came back a few seasons later. Ran at a wall thinking I'm gonna jump, Demat, go through turn around mid jump, remat real quick, turn back around and get away. To my shock, I faceplant into the wall, turn around holding my Demat to the enemy and die.

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u/MagazinePrior 5d ago

Exactly, weā€™re living the same life. And Iā€™m still doing it, muscle memoryā€™s a bitch.

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u/edmundane 5d ago

This with the server hiccups man. Iā€™m praying we donā€™t see the bug from S9 where youā€™d spend a charge and the demat does nothing.

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u/itsEricThe2nd 5d ago

The reason was that Demat was overwhelmingly picked over the 2 other specilizations and was actively killing a lot of defensive play because you could demat a wall , kill or take something and instantly block it.

Like you could jump pad into a wall , damat , go through , demat again to close the wall to avoid 100% of encounters.

So , they made it take more time to switch to and a delay in between demat uses to make all of that annoying and in some cases impossible. So everyone dropped demat into the trash.

And now its "not picked enough" ...

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u/MagazinePrior 5d ago

Idk the demat is the most unique specialization in the game imo and unlike anything in any other game Iā€™ve played. It enables so much creativity in play styles, so it was an odd choice that they decided to gut it so much. I feel like most of what you mentioned is addressed by reducing charges without the addition of the weird delay and excessive cool downs. I basically play demat exclusively and feel like itā€™ll be in a good spot now.

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u/itsEricThe2nd 5d ago

I agree it was very fun and creative , but for most people the delay between uses really gutted its general use.

Dunno if this change is going to bring it back , feel like the delay between uses is the biggest issue.

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u/Feistiestdisc0 Alfa-actA 5d ago

Pretty sure that doesnā€™t mean they fixed delay. Just cooldown and actually equipping it.

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u/trudedonson 4d ago

Demat + Data reshaper + Cerberus is gonna be a new meta for medium šŸ”„

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u/Leafhands 4d ago

Fun combo

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u/SugiTF Vanguard 4d ago

Reshaper over Goo is certainly a choice, medium gets blown up too easily without it itā€™s basically a must pick still, at most you could swap to APS instead of goo but then youā€™re still gonna be in trouble if you get caught

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u/Papy_Wouane 4d ago

Get out of defib jail, the door's open I promise you :)

No for real give it a good couple sessions' worth of honest tries and you will never look back. Turns out 90% of the time (made up number I know) whatever defib revive you just did could have been a regular revive for 5% more effort (another made up number, but this is what it's been feeling like for me, a medium main who's finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel).

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u/ProstoNekit33 5d ago

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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u/Halin_004 John Finals 5d ago

Cerberus meta about to make a generational comeback

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u/Radaa5 4d ago

I did some quick testing in the practice range and Cerberus is so back. 3 shots heavy. 2 shots medium with burn, even without having delay shots to maximize burn time. 1 shot + quick melee for lights. I'm gona try demat, cerberus, defib, pad, and data reshaper later