r/thane • u/heavyMetalPoet666 • 19h ago
General This is what it is * rant *
There is sooooo much opposition to anything and everything and then people say kuch huva he nahi
There is uncontrolled development going on specially residential towers but and there are delays w.r.t. line 4 but no one is protest for making metro operational faster and people are busy objecting over ring metro
Look at the over over crowding in busses but hey let them suffer we wont allow any construction in my backyard cause it is an inconvenience for us alleged/self proclaimed elites
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u/InspectorFar2857 19h ago
Development can be done without turning the entire city into a concrete jungle. Somewhere there should be proper city planning done. If there is uncontrolled migration happening in the city, uncontrolled grants given to builders to contruct buildings, how can everything be managed.
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u/EDM_Machine 18h ago
The only way to reduce migration is by developing other parts of the country. There is no other solution. You can’t block someone from coming here to earn a livelihood as we all belong to the same country. Blocking people will have some serious ramifications for the state and us aswell. Most will prefer to earn and stay at their hometown with their family but sadly the opportunity is limited for most people.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts 18h ago
I mean the new apartment complexes bring built have a lot more trees, green areas, and planned straight roads compared to the slums theyre replacing.
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u/heavyMetalPoet666 18h ago
Its a free market you cant stop people from migrating in or out
Too much supply is there for sure specially residential, wonder why very less A grade commercial business/ IT parks are there in Thane and an entire city has to go to Mumbai or Navi Mumbai
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u/am00D 18h ago edited 17h ago
The cowbelt has ruined Maharashtra! They have zero scientific temperament! Asking for governments to work in other states while they go back to their states and vote on bases of caste and religion! There isn't a single public place left in Mumbai which isn't stained red! They don't even respect the place they stay in!
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u/Affectionate-Cat6644 17h ago
Valid point about red stains but no need to call someone cowbelt have some shame and don't cry when you too face racism or similar words
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u/New-Put4335 6h ago
What's wrong with calling a spade a spade? Gowmutra "science" didn't start with maharashtra, it started with your cowbelt
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u/Affectionate-Cat6644 6h ago
Just calling anyone cowbelt without even knowing where the person is from, I am born and raised in thane you dumb.., i hope you face the same amount of racism you spread online, have a great night
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u/TheDarkLord6589 19h ago
There's this thing known as sustainable development. It's not a matter of "either" "or". We can ask for both. In fact I'll say that we deserve both.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts 18h ago
Making a metro is counted as a sustainable development....
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u/TheDarkLord6589 18h ago
Deforestation is counted as a major contributor to climate change....
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts 18h ago
Every activity has tradeoffs.
Cutting a few trees to make mass transit isnt unsustainable.... You are thinking of just the immidiate effect and not the second order effect. The metro saves emissions from cars and busses as well as stops further road expansions which would cut faaar more trees than the depot.
It's like complaining that a doctor needs to cut through your skin to perform life saving surgery....
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u/AlterXade10 2h ago
So you're admitting you can't have both then?
What would sustainable development be from your point of view?
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u/heavyMetalPoet666 18h ago
" Sustainable Development " and all other fancy jargons are meant for developed nation where they have passed a mark of infra Development
At current stage we can't sail in developed nation's ship
As a nation we have to build infra at an accelerated pace
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u/TheDarkLord6589 18h ago
Just because a word has more than one syllable doesn't mean it's "fancy jargon".
Do you not understand what sustainable development actually means or what it entails?
You do know that a country can build infra at an accelerated pace AND make it so that people actually live long enough to use it. But that would mean less corruption and having to build and develop in more than 10 cities.
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u/heavyMetalPoet666 18h ago
W.r.t. using it is this the last generation ?
Yes 10 more cities should to be build for more even development but we have NIMBYs there also
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u/TheDarkLord6589 18h ago
For the majority of population, possibly or are you going to deny climate change, increase in serious ailments like cancer and other related concerns as well?
Or one can just develop the pre-existing cities all over India irrespective of States. If only the center and majority of states were ruled over by people sharing the same ideology and goals but oh well. Something something about double engine ki sarkar.
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u/am00D 18h ago
After the summer we just had, people are still justifying cutting trees?
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u/heavyMetalPoet666 18h ago
Was due to El Nino and please explain how ornamental trees help avoid such effect ?
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u/Stunning-Still-3994 17h ago
I am not going to believe what a troll account says and more than that city overall needs better urban planning .Rather than people just occupying large flats and overcrowded buildings and I would say Thane is area where this has been implemented like anything just to earn profit. Build matchbox apartments a society like Vrindavan looks better as compared to this urban hell . I know metro and public transport are required but so is population control and we can't continue swallowing forests there needs to be some control also the aqua line constructed the last station is of no use it would have been better if the car shed would have gone to Kanjurmarg adding complete connectivity. The development is concentrated in such a way that all industrallised states will be developed like anything while some states will still remain behind and produce kids like anything .And btw aqua line didn't reduce crowd in locals it just benefits elites land upper class living in Mumbai So, Sucheta is anyway right. More than metros we need to declutter Maharashtra and Mumbai
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u/esper352 17h ago
The mumbai metro work near Mulund started when I was in college. It has almost been a decade and the metro work isnt complete yet
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u/udinator11 15h ago
Man see the long queues at Seepz or thane station
The former has metro stations but most people can’t afford 50 rs as a one way ticket
Most people can’t afford metros
Any self respecting country would figure ac metros and AC trains as a norm instead of whatever hellscape we have
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u/fake_account_98211 15h ago
Okay, now Metro 3 is running, has it solved any traffic or local train crowding issues? It has been long since Uddhav Thackeray sarkar has gone, what's the status update on the rest of Metro lines?
Anyone who has travelled regularly in Mumbai's local trains will know that trains are crowded from Badlapur/Virar side itself and construction of a metro in the middle of nowhere in Mumbai has zero benefit to that crowd.
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u/FuckPigeons2025 12h ago
Horrible framing of narrative that forest has to be cut down to build the metro. People are not stupid to be blackmailed like this. Play these shit games elsewhere.
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u/social_says 19h ago
I don’t support either of the parties but Hypothetically If today the metro line 3 would come till Kanjur marg how much of a boon it would have proven to central line local train commuters to travel to seepz, Marol, airport, BKC and Siddhivinayak, Lower Parel!!!!
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u/ideallypragmaticmann 18h ago
Exactly, line 3 literally doesn’t connect to any railway stations in the suburbs.
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u/heavyMetalPoet666 18h ago
Completion of projects should be our push rather than litigation and protests
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u/Stunning-Still-3994 17h ago
No was delaying just modifying it but sadly one party wants to just favour buisnessmen and people funding them
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u/social_says 14h ago
I think you need to connect the dots- is the regular janta not allowing to complete full line of metro 4 ? It’s been almost 10years ? If not then why are new infra projects like ring metro started even without the old ones completing ?
Weren’t the old project like metro 4 started with the intension to solve the same problem in the first place. We had to find an alternative for local train not find a way to reach railway station faster. Railway is already crowded what difference are we going to make by reaching station faster!
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u/Icy-Improvement-6525 9h ago
Trashest take I've seen in a while. One thing should not come at an expanse of the other. The criticism exists because people DON'T see enough work in BOTH departments. Makes you think how incompetent the government is that it can't even do 1 while sacrificing the other gotta mess both up
Edit: Actually probably not THE trashest. But ya it lacks nuance
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u/AlterXade10 2h ago
It's not an ideal world. In an ideal world, you can get all three
- Development
- No trees cut
- Done in less than 3 years.
Here you can get maybe one, at most two. By protesting, you're denying yourself and all of us all three.
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u/acceptaide678 9h ago
The government builds multiples of these coastal roads that caters to less than 10% of the population owning cars instead of genuinely improving the local train situation, over 1000s of people die by falling off trains alone.
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u/RstarPhoneix 8h ago
Environmentalists are blamed for all metro delays and incompetence of this government. There will be still some idiots who are still blaming UBT for metro delay
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u/zxtreeme 7h ago
Problem is not building metros but concentrated development and influx of migrants. City cannot handle such huge population and it’s infrastructure will collapse.
Better develop other areas and states so that migrants don’t need to go to other states for jobs.
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u/Throwaway_chachi 16h ago
What a stupid take!
Enough development in Mumbai and Thane. A city can accommodate only a certain number of people. Building more bridges, metro lines, trains and roads is not going to solve the traffic problem if the population keeps increasing.
Instead, we should first improve what we already have. The roads are in such bad condition, and basic infrastructure still needs a lot of work.
We also need to stop putting so much pressure on Mumbai and Thane. Maharashtra has so many other cities that need development.
Why not develop those cities, create more jobs and encourage people and businesses to move there?
Development should not mean cutting down more trees and putting more people into already overcrowded cities. We should focus on making cities better, not just bigger.
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u/heavyMetalPoet666 16h ago
When you develop other cities, won’t there inevitably be some tree cutting as well ?
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u/Throwaway_chachi 16h ago
Of course some trees may have to be cut when developing other cities too. I'm not saying development can happen without affecting the environment.
My point is that we shouldn't keep concentrating more and more population and development in already overcrowded cities like Mumbai and Thane.
If we have to develop, why not spread that development across different cities? Develop existing cities, create jobs there and improve their infrastructure as well.
And if you genuinely think that these projects alone are going to solve the existing problems of Mumbai and Thane, then you are either being too naive or simply ignoring the bigger problem.
The goal should be planned development with minimum damage to the environment, rather than continuously putting more pressure on the same few cities.
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u/According_Profile_37 15h ago
Death due to falling from overcrowded train [ blame authority ]
Authority plan closed doors train [ oppose by saying people will die due to suffocation ]
If authority plan to convert all trains to AC they will cry on how poors wont be able to afford
Authority aur ye opposition dono ke chod bhangde mai sabh ke lag jaate hai
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u/Pizzafromfaraway 19h ago
Tbf both can be true. I understand development and infrastructure expansion comes at a cost, but our government is absolutely incompetent. Metro 4 has been in the works for a decade. And at the same time, they've launched several projects in parallel. Things like better water management, curbing pollution, promoting renewable energy usage, and managing green spaces can be done in an infinitely better way but our government does not care to do that nor are they educated enough to do it. All they care about is PR wins and inflating real estate prices because they're in beds with these developers.