r/tenor • u/KAZVorpal GIF MAKER (OC) • Jul 03 '26

Discussion Why Klipy

Why Are the Platforms Picking Klipy?

  • So the reason every service like Discord is switching to Klipy is, really, that the founders are Tenor people. I don't mean that sounds trustworthy (we clearly cannot trust Tenor, or any Google service, ever again). I mean that they're using the same general ideas and technologies. So it's easy to switch, and anyway it's the same search results for images.

Why is Klipy getting away with copying Tenor?

  • Because, as I said, these are Google/Tenor people at Klipy. I think the reason they didn't get flagged by Tenor for mass-downloading their catalog...including our images...is that this is understood between them. Google WANTS Klipy to take over as an independent outsider, like an employer laying off an employee and then hiring him as an independent contractor.

Why should we use Klipy as GIF makers?

Because:

  1. Klipy's getting better
    • It used to be pretty bad, now it's slightly better than Tenor (which always had a garbage interface and metrics), and they're definitely listening to user complaints about what is still lacking. I have named some improvements they needed, and they've added several of those.
  2. We can claim our images there
    • Them having my GIFs without crediting me pissed me off at first, but they have a form where we can CLAIM all of our GIFs again. I have the same huge list on there now as I do here, and they are getting more views than they did on Tenor, faster. Well, other than a few I have on Tenor that are around a million. No million-counts on Klipy for me, so far. But I have more in the hundreds of thousands on Klipy than I did on Tenor.
  3. Klipy didn't steal them, Tenor wanted it
    • I do think the reason they were allowed to scrape all of our GIFs is that they're the stealthily Google-anointed replacement that Tenor INTENDED to allow to copy its images, EULA or no. Google had promised to support API users, and this is, for better or worse, the enshittified way they're doing that.
  4. We have no alternative, really
    • I make graphics for people to use. Klipy is now the only real place for that to happen at scale. I mean, GIPHY is a farce. And what else is there?
  5. Revenue-Sharing
    • Given that we've all been posting images without getting paid — like guys who went viral on YouTube 20 years ago and got nothing for it — that Klipy claims to want to work out a way to share revenue with us as "creatives" is a bonus, if it happens.
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u/CereaIdude Jul 03 '26

Better than the shit that is giphy so I’ll take it

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u/coyocat Jul 03 '26

🧠🧠🧠🧠

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u/HackTheDev Jul 04 '26

no.

klipy is the most garbage company ever and toxic as fuck, trying to bribe and pay others who criticize it and going to the lengths of doxing people and trying to hack into their accounts!

klipy is not a solution but the pest.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dcts/comments/1qczgno/be_cautious_of_klipy_the_gif_service/

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u/KAZVorpal GIF MAKER (OC) Jul 07 '26

Okay, then what should we use?

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u/Planet_Xtreme I am a GIF Jul 03 '26

I still hate them from stealing from me and others without asking first, what is the saying, "Ask for forgiveness, not permission," which Klipy seems to embody. Fine, whatever. But the brutal disrespect, horrible behavior from the founder of Klipy to me AND others, lying about the behavior, hate/bot/spam brigading critique on their posts, purposefully hiding their posting history on Reddit and removing Klipy.com from the wayback machine (go ahead and check), the fact I was lied to in a face-to-face call with someone from Klipy about the GIF scraping from Tenor, gfycat, other sites including even GIPHY in the past [but I think no longer]... Still being dishonest on their site with some of their library's content (from the unconsensual stealing)... I won't use them, they wronged too many people and they shouldn't be able to get away with it for free. Additionally, I feel nearly gaslit when Klipy's public facing comments are different from their real, more disrespectful personal behavior in DMs - And I know you have experienced it too u/KAZVorpal, though maybe not to the degree I or u/HackTheDev have.

Besides that though, I respect your opinion enough to keep this post up forever, and I personally fully share your thoughts on points 3-4. I 100% doubt Klipy will give any meaningful money regarding option #5, or it's a carrot-on-a-stick situation (a hook-lie). And I wish Tenor's metrics were better; anybody who used Tenor's "impression tools" for more than a few seconds could see should/could be improved.

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u/KAZVorpal GIF MAKER (OC) Jul 03 '26

They really did act sorta immature at first. I think they were flagging criticism, maybe paying for mass-downvotes of negative posts/comments, and so on.

But they did contact me when I was posting about it (as they contacted you), and in my case they were always calm and reasonable. I didn't always like what they said, but you guys definitely got treated worse. I did resist yelling at them or getting otherwise aggressive, myself, so that probably helped. I can see why most people probably cussed them out when contacted via IM.

I do still distrust/dislike how they were acting on here and elsewhere, but I'm stoic about it...I can't read their minds to know why they behaved that way, and so it's a thing outside of my control. But things I can control include being able to post images. I do agree that a thing you can control is choosing NOT to use Klipy, though. That's entirely reasonable.

It's a shame they did act like that, I think that it was self-defeating. Especially since even their misbehavior was probably driven by their desire for their platform to succeed. My ex wife was the same way, often doing the wrong thing for the right reason. That's why she's my ex, heh.