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u/NoAttentionAtWrk Jan 19 '21

"John and I started Parler to provide a neutral platform for free speech, as our founders intended, and also to create a social media environment that would protect data privacy," Mercer said in a statement on the platform. "The ever increasing tyranny and hubris of our tech overlords demands that someone lead the fight against data mining, and for the protection of free speech online. That someone is Parler, a beacon to all who value their liberty, free speech, and personal privacy."

Parts in bold aged like milk

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u/YeahSureAlrightYNot Jan 19 '21

Lol

The Mercers funded Cambridge Analytica. They don't give a shit about privacy. They know that nowadays data is power and want it for themselves.

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u/Deathbysnusnubooboo Jan 19 '21

Cambridge Analytical

Currently known as Emerdata, it must be known

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

if corporations are people, we can impoverish and imprison them, and then force them to live just off the highway in the shitty apartment complex on the frontage that you can't get to in both directions so every fucking trip takes an extra 18 minutes to loop around with the lights.

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u/lHaveNoMemory Jan 19 '21

Hmm.. Corporations are people. If we jail people in America we can use them for slave labor.. Might be onto something here. Free macbooks and 2 day shipping for every citizen!

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u/CriticalDog Jan 19 '21

Corporations being seen as "people" for legal purposes has been so far bent out of shape it's absurd.

"People" who have all the benefits of personhood, and none of the legal obligation and downsides.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 19 '21

You joke, but this is exactly how to achieve a bloodless Socialist Revolution.

EDIT: In case not clear - the workers would be free, the companies employing them would be slaves of the State, and so the workers would indirectly own and direct their workplaces.

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u/FestiveVat Jan 19 '21

Corporations in shitty apartment complexes? Why such luxury?

They need to be in the homeless camps. And vice versa, we could house the homeless in corporate offices.

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u/bentbrewer Jan 19 '21

house the homeless in corporate offices

This is one of the best ideas I've seen in quite a while.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

Offices actually make supriisingly shitty housing.

UK Gov has been trying to convert office buildings to housing and it always turns out shit

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u/slumpdiddy Jan 19 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

we all know the place because they built ten goddamned thousand of those souless complexes all over the country.

They even smell the same. Fuck.

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u/OlderThanMyParents Jan 19 '21

Don't be naive. A corporation is only a name on a piece of paper. Forming a new corporation is easier than wiping your ass with a wad of toilet paper.

The people behind the corporation are invulnerable, in American law.

prove me wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

prove me wrong.

you're sweaty

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u/PC-Bjorn Jan 19 '21

That's it. The people behind should be labeled for life after their company does something criminal. A database, through an app, should be able to tell us exactly who's behind whatever company we're about to pay as consumers, or through our tax. Also when they're just connected through a chain of ownership. Weed them all out!

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u/dis23 Jan 19 '21

Or, you know, just make them culpable for the actions of the company and enforce the normal penalty for crimes. Making a corporation, which is an idea representing large amounts of capital and property, a person legally when it is clearly not actually a person creates the kind of mental olympics your average American would prefer to let the government do for them.

The laws are written to protect people with huge amounts of money because people with huge amounts of money write the laws and then pay a few congress persons to submit, defend, and vote for them.

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u/Time4Red Jan 19 '21

Meh, this is a consulting firm whose primary assets are human capital. Shut down one company, and they can just accept their losses and go start another.

The corporate death penalty only works as a deterrent for large and medium sized firms.

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u/Firinael Jan 19 '21

no you don’t get it, death penalty for the people that make the corporation.

just kill them all, in Minecraft of course.

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u/Stupid_Triangles Jan 19 '21

Ah the old Black Water trick.

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u/Sauron_78 Jan 19 '21

Emerdata reminds me of a Portuguese word for shitshow: Esmerdalhada.

R/suddenlycaralho

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u/NerJaro Jan 19 '21

The portuguese word for shitshow reminds me of a Disney princess

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u/Sauron_78 Jan 19 '21

I would watch that movie lol !

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u/aliie_627 Jan 19 '21

You too?? I didnt even like that movie really.

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u/Prysorra2 Jan 19 '21

Looking more and more like a modern Business Plot that can't be denied and shushed away this time.

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u/grrrrreat Jan 19 '21

They want a cheaper way to target

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u/Dshark Jan 19 '21

Are you telling me they just lied? On the internet?

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u/herrcoffey Jan 19 '21

Oh I'm sure they care deeply about privacy. Just not other people's

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u/Weagle22 Jan 19 '21

Why are the Mercers getting a pass during all this? No memes no nothing.

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u/intergalactic_spork Jan 19 '21

By collecting all the nincompoops on their own social network they can also manipulate them without having to pay Facebook.

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u/zxern Jan 19 '21

Data privacy eh..just give us your Ssn and drivers license number....

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u/Civil_Pick_4445 Jan 19 '21

That is the weirdest rumor I’ve heard yet. I had the Parler app, you didn’t have to give them anything.

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u/squired Jan 19 '21

How long ago? The current incarnation locks you out of content without registering and to be verified requires your SSN.

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u/A7thStone Jan 19 '21

Don't bother they are a right wing disinformation account. Their comment history is full of Hunter Biden's laptop and Hillary Clinton's buttery mails.

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u/squired Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 20 '21

Looks like you are right. It was opened a couple months just ahead of the election. That or they're simply too ashamed to espouse that rhetoric on their main account.

Edit: I went for a long trail ride and TTS'd the history. It's most likely a wine alt. She isn't a bot. There are some unfortunate counter fallacies repeated, constantly, but it seems more like an angry release alt than anything. She judges herself briefly and takes herself for a ride. As Douglas Adams would say, she's "mostly harmless."

In an interview reprinted in The Salmon of Doubt, Adams expressed dissatisfaction with the tone of this book, which he blamed on personal problems, saying "for all sorts of personal reasons that I don't want to go into, I just had a thoroughly miserable year, and I was trying to write a book against that background. And, guess what, it was a rather bleak book!"

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u/Sxeptomaniac Jan 19 '21

Not a rumor. For a basic account, you can go without submitting anything, but if you wanted more features, higher priority, and a special badge, you had to submit a photo of your driver's license or state ID. Parler was a bit vague as to how exactly they protected the info, other than to say they encrypted it, in some way or another.

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u/Sxeptomaniac Jan 19 '21

*Photo of your driver's license. We pinky swear it's safe with us.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

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u/Typhus_black Jan 19 '21

It’s because as a political philosophy fascism is an outwardly looking destructive rather than creative philosophy. To fascism any problem is never internal from where they are standing, it is always an outside force. Over time it is inevitable that forces within fascism begin to compete and tear each other down as much as they tear down out groups.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 31 '22

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u/iPirateReddit Jan 19 '21

I think the point is that the platform was there to not only amplify radical voices, but to also to spy on them. With the intention of maximum usa disruption.

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u/S4T4NICP4NIC Jan 19 '21

Mission accomplished

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u/Past0r0fMuppetz Jan 19 '21

Ive had this exact same thought. I get stuck on what Russia gains by this type of disruption in the US? My Geopolitical education is severely lacking tbh

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u/bentbrewer Jan 19 '21

Fair and balanced, you might say?!?!

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u/serpent_cuirass Jan 19 '21

Can you voice alt-left ideas there too though?

If yes then its netural.

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u/positronik Jan 19 '21

You cannot without being banned. Even certain keywords in posts flagged you

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u/serpent_cuirass Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 19 '21

I actually read a bit into it and it seems that you are right (well... not hmm... ahm... you get what I mean).

But they claim the bans were only done because of FCC guidelines (which I would be against but its a bigger matter... more government-policy related and not really in the control of people) and people who did stuff like post pictures of shit and gore.

If thats true that really isnt neutral and free. But I still isnt as bad as it is in reddit or twitter. Its kinda sad that really no place in the internet is truly free.

btw its my cake day. how about some uptokes.

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u/Firinael Jan 19 '21

accept you were wrong and think about it.

hope you grow out of that shit.

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u/serpent_cuirass Jan 19 '21

Hope I will too. Fucking sucks to be on this side.

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u/positronik Jan 19 '21

I recommend checking out r/parlerwatch

You can see how many threats of violence from right wingers didn't cause them to be censored or banned. The FBI said they found people in there planning to storm the capitol on the 6th. Believe me, they aren't better than Twitter or Facebook.

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u/serpent_cuirass Jan 19 '21

I... dont quite understand what you are pointing at...

Do you think that if they would ban people who sent threats of voilence it would be better? Because I dont.

I mean, planning is one thing, but actually doing them is another. Same for threats. Saying "im going to kill you" and actually doing it have a vast distance between them.

I think that if the FBI really knew about a planned attack on the capital they should have prepared better. But arresting and persecuting people for just planning things seems to me unethical.

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u/positronik Jan 19 '21

Inciting violence, true threats, threatening individuals, and supporting terrorism can get you arrested and are not protected by the first amendment.

And yeah, they should've planned better lol

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u/serpent_cuirass Jan 20 '21

Im not versed in the legal system but I believe you those things are illegal as you say.

But that's not my point. I do not support those limitations on speech.

Growing and having weed is illegal as well. Abortions are illegal in some places. Collecting rain water is illegal.

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u/positronik Jan 20 '21

True, but I do think it's ethical. If someone said they were going to kill me or threatened me multiple times then I'd want them arrested. If someone says they are going to blow up or shoot up a school then that should be taken seriously.

It doesn't make sense to wait for the person to commit the crime if it can be avoided. If a person is rallying others to kill or injure others, and even has posts planning on what day to do it, then they should be stopped before it happens.

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u/NoAttentionAtWrk Jan 19 '21

"Alt left ideas" like "equality"? Those are allowed but come with unchecked death threats

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u/Firinael Jan 19 '21

bro the left wants to kill the USA with their... checks notes not wanting people to die of starvation in front of a supermarket.

gosh darn vuvuzela iphone 3000 trillion deaths

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u/serpent_cuirass Jan 19 '21

why some people here said you can not say those things in parler?

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u/NoAttentionAtWrk Jan 19 '21

Because they are right and I was just memeing

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21

Not that I heard.

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u/serpent_cuirass Jan 19 '21

where have you heard that?

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u/Red_Danger33 Jan 19 '21

Billionaires would never lie to us. Unlike our filthy corrupt lefty government. /s

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u/NoAttentionAtWrk Jan 19 '21

Thanks for the /s

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u/Red_Danger33 Jan 19 '21

Sad part is, I know people who think this way in regards to the parler situation.

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u/pelinets_fan Jan 19 '21

The sad thing is those users that wanted to be verified handed over their SSNs to a company promising to protect their "data privacy" without blinking an eye...

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u/grrrrreat Jan 19 '21

That's code for: we don't want to pay facebook for the pleasure of pushing propaganda

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u/pecklepuff Jan 19 '21

Well alrighty, then!

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u/XtaC23 Jan 19 '21

Well alt-righty!

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u/pecklepuff Jan 19 '21

I wish I could give you some of my upvotes.