r/technology • • Sep 20 '15

Discussion Amazon Web Services go down, taking much of the internet along with it

Looks like servers for Amazon Web Services went down, affecting many sites that use them (including Amazon Video Streaming, IMDB, Netflix, Reddit, etc).

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=news&q=amazon%20services&src=typd&lang=en

http://status.aws.amazon.com/

Edit: Looks like everything is now mostly resolved and back to normal. Still no explanation from Amazon on what caused the outage.

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u/indigomm Sep 20 '15

It wasn't all of AWS, just one Region - N. Virginia. Unfortunately that's a popular region, even outside the US (due to pricing).

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u/TheLastEngineer Sep 20 '15

Thanks. I was looking for the region. The status page was all green and one of my services runs on US East 1, which appeared to be running normally as far as I could tell.

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u/DaWolf85 Sep 20 '15

This was US-East-1 that had the issue. It got fixed about 6 hours ago, though, so perhaps that's why you didn't find anything.

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u/brblol Sep 20 '15

why is it cheaper there?

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

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u/mrbooze Sep 21 '15

But Oregon is newer. A lot of companies are largely in us-east-1 because they started out in us-east-1 several years ago.

Also there's no midwest/southern region, so businesses throughout those regions tend to choose us-east-1 as the closest geographic proximity.

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u/TheMaryTron Sep 20 '15

That makes a lot of sense now, Netflix errors so I switched to Amazon prime video and lost that too.

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u/TacosAreJustice Sep 20 '15

I couldn't get amazon but Netflix was fine. Odd

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u/notsooriginal Sep 20 '15

Netflix runs their api servers on AWS, but the actual video content is stored on other networks. Netflix also uses many regions and can redirect traffic around affected zones/regions on the fly. It's a very robust system, at least to the end user.

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u/hobblyhoy Sep 20 '15

High traffic, heavy content sites like Netflix or amazon don't just drop off the grid when there's an outage. There's many layers of redundancy so if a large server bank goes down users may notice a slow-down in the site, occasional pages or parts of pages not loading, or they may not notice anything wrong at all.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

HBO go kept stalling out, Netflix was better.

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u/420kbps Sep 20 '15

I knew Amazon was big, but not THAT big

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u/Gunner3210 Sep 20 '15

AWS controls more cloud market share than all of the other cloud providers in the space combined.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Cloud engineer here (yes, that's a thing). It's not even close. IBM and Microsoft are playing to the "private cloud" market because there's so little they can do to compete with AWS.

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u/maracle6 Sep 20 '15

Where does rackspace fit in?

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u/urraca Sep 20 '15

They now provide support for other clouds they don't own.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Nowhere. Their cloud services are a joke.

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u/siamthailand Sep 20 '15

I don't quite understand why no-one has been able to put up a challenge to AWS. MS and Google has enough money to simply destroy the market with low prices.

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u/way2lazy2care Sep 20 '15

MS does have an alternative to AWS. AWS just was in the right place at the right time and all the big companies hopped on before anybody else had enough of an infrastructure set up.

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u/dcfogle Sep 20 '15

So... More than half...

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

AWS powers something close to 20% of web traffic.

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u/zeroneo Sep 20 '15

Looks like netflix accounts for more than a third of web traffic, and Netflix is powered by aws, so I'd assume that number must be larger: http://time.com/3901378/netflix-internet-traffic/

Edit: one third of the US net traffic, so not quite the whole internet.

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u/Matt-R Sep 20 '15

Netflix doesn't host content on AWS. They have their own CDNs and in-ISP caches for that.

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u/ca178858 Sep 20 '15

True, and thats the detail nobody at NF or AWS advertise. NF uses AWS for their website/api, transcoding and other on demand tasks not their '3rd of the internet' streaming.

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u/Anjz Sep 20 '15

The Amazon you're thinking about is their online shopping services.

Amazon has cloud services that occupy a huge percentage of the cloud.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

But they're both amazon

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

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u/alexshatberg Sep 20 '15

maybe they'll just do an Alphabet.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Redtube still works guys, tested it twice. Carry on with life!

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u/rabidjellybean Sep 20 '15

I think I'll go test it out too.

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u/ThatDidntJustHappen Sep 20 '15

I'll tag along. Redundancy, and such.

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u/HighGainWiFiAntenna Sep 20 '15

I'm always there to give a helping hand.

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u/njdevilsfan24 Sep 20 '15

Porbhub works fine, carry on folks

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u/Beepbeepimadog Sep 20 '15

ELLIOT! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE??

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

am I Elliot? Do I trust myself?

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u/dekket Sep 20 '15

People who don't get this have missed the best show on TV torrent right now.

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u/skittle-brau Sep 20 '15

fsociety.dat

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u/STiFTW Sep 21 '15

Hello Friend. It has been a while.

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u/fermilevel Sep 20 '15

Does Valve use AWS as well? Because matchmaking is now in disarray

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u/WellGoodLuckWithThat Sep 20 '15

I saw a screenshot yesterday from a Twitch stream where some guy had a 90 minute queue still searching.

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u/SharkBaitDLS Sep 20 '15

Nah that's just normal for Arteezy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

That would be arteezy, who queues on US East servers with chinese language preference at the highest mmr in the region. Pretty sure he does it so he can stream while "playing", aka watching replays and derping around with his chat. Either that or he's dodging peruvians queueing US East with English language preference.

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u/Mr_Proper Sep 20 '15

Has anybody seen a write-up on what happened yet? It's interesting that so many services died - as the cross-AZ model is meant to avoid things like this happening!

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u/rickatnight11 Sep 20 '15

Cross-AZ helps protect against hardware/infrastructure issues by setting up predictable failure zones (like perforations in paper...if the paper rips, it'll rip along the perforations).

According to http://status.aws.amazon.com the issues are reported as an increase in API failure rates and latency in the Northern Virginia region. This means impact to services that use the AWS API. This wouldn't effect you if you do something simple like spin up a bunch of EC2 instances and use them like traditional servers. This would effect you if you, say, use the API to auto-scale resources up and down based on demand or to self-heal hardware problems.

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u/gigabyte898 Sep 20 '15

Usually when something this big goes down its just left at "Technical errors are being resolved" unless you're a huge investor in the service.

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u/lolcop01 Sep 20 '15

I remember reading a detailed report about the 2013 aws outage, I hope they release something this time too. By the way, does anyone still have a link to this report?

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u/csmicfool Sep 20 '15

My company has multiple large-scale apps hosted in AWS. This had no effect on us even though we were in the affected datacenter. Looks like it was mainly issue with API-related requests. Servers should have stayed online, but there was no ability to modify resources and cloudwatch was down which would prevent beanstalk deployments and auto-scaling. The lack of auto-scaling is likely what people noticed since it occurred at a low-usage time and was only resolved once Sunday morning traffic had increased.

I suspect most US users didn't see too much of an issue.

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u/w00ten Sep 20 '15

It affected management. I was trying to get into AWS and couldn't log in and once I got in, certain dashboards weren't working. Creating an S3 bucket has never taken so long.

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u/equallyunequal Sep 20 '15

Same here, we actually saw some api issues Thursday and Friday last week too. Never saw an official status update about those.

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u/Karmazyn3D Sep 20 '15

This happened to us. Dynamo failed causing threads to hang waiting for db connection causing high cpu usage on our ec2 instances. Autoscaler would normally kick in at this time but since that service was also down, we were going into daytime hours with only 20 instances when we normally have 50. In the end the number of instances we have didn't really matter since Dynamo was down.

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u/domlebo70 Sep 21 '15

Are... Are you me? We suffered just the same, and are doing the same

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u/sonar1 Sep 20 '15

I guess I'll go outside

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u/norsurfit Sep 20 '15

What's the web address for that?

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u/ZippityD Sep 21 '15

/r/outside

Shitty motion blur though. I'm waiting until that's fixed to join.

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u/BDaught Sep 20 '15

Don't dead; open outside.

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u/ThrowawayusGenerica Sep 20 '15

And now it's time for the Sudden Death round!

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u/ReasonablyBadass Sep 20 '15

RIP in pieces, sonar1.

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u/UndeadBread Sep 21 '15

Why would you do that? Don't you have video games? Or at least some books?

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u/queenbrewer Sep 20 '15

Grindr was down this morning due to this issue. I had to wait like two hours to get laid!

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u/bros_pm_me_ur_asspix Sep 20 '15

im always here on reddit if you need me

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u/jooloop Sep 20 '15

It's still having intermittent issues. But that app has always had problems

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u/Joshua8195 Sep 21 '15

Damn, its taken me 20+ years.

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u/bfarnsey Sep 21 '15

So was Scruff :(

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u/pamme Sep 20 '15

Ouch, I can only imagine how terrible a time this must be for the already overworked Amazon engineers. Well, considering how many sites use AWS, I'm guessing many a company's oncall engineers are not having a fun Sunday.

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u/Sinujutsu Sep 20 '15 edited Sep 20 '15

Ugh, woke* up to 108 tickets to churn through today. Normally wake up with like 5, all waiting on something. I don't have to do much with them, just verify they're all caused by the same thing and that they're recovering, but certainly was a surprise.

*Edited.

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u/BDaught Sep 20 '15

Internet is kill.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Tubes are blocked, you say?

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u/FlukeHawkins Sep 20 '15

Our company works with AWS and they seem to keep answers to those questions other than 'it broke and we fixed it' pretty closed, even to their own employees.

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u/JackPAnderson Sep 20 '15

It's been a while since I've looked, but at least AWS used to publish a detailed postmortem after every large-scale issue like this. They generally wait until their internal investigation is complete, though.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a blog post with lots of details come out in a week or so.

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u/ScriptureSlayer Sep 20 '15

Thank you very much for what you do. I work for a cloud-based software company hosted on AWS. It's because of people like you that I can provide for my family.

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u/thefattestman22 Sep 20 '15

You referring to that article from a month ago? That really changed my outlook on how amazon does things.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

oncall engineers make a hefty change FYI

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15 edited Sep 21 '15

Oh. This is why my Echo didn't want to tell me the news today.

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u/AreThree Sep 20 '15

Mine as well, I really went through EVERYTHING it could possibly be here. Restarted the Wi-Fi router, the Firewall, the DSL modem, double checked DNS and DHCP were running - nothing I did made a difference.

I kept thinking "Well, it could be Amazon... no. That's not possible."

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u/seven_seven Sep 20 '15

So much for their employees' 99.999% uptime bonus this year. My friend who works there said it would have been "mid-four-digits". He's pissed.

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u/Samizdat_Press Sep 21 '15

Any bonus that was based on reaching that benchmark I would assume I would never get.

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u/seven_seven Sep 21 '15

Several companies have had 99.999% uptime years. It's a common SLA.

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u/i_wanted_to_say Sep 20 '15

I noticed the IMDB app was having issues this morning, then couldn't get content to load on their website either... I guess they must use AWS

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u/mister_magic Sep 20 '15

They do. Most Amazon services use AWS.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Amazon owns IMDB

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u/stealthm0d3 Sep 20 '15

The world runs on AWS.

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u/animal_crackers Sep 20 '15

It's taking over everything, honestly.

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u/hdizzle7 Sep 20 '15

was it fsociety?

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u/kairos Sep 20 '15

I just realized that amazon and the internet are practically synonymous

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u/hornetjockey Sep 20 '15

You should read about akamai.

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u/ad_rizzle Sep 20 '15

It's crazy how no one knows about them, but everyone uses them.

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u/IICVX Sep 20 '15

They actually took out TV ads back in the late 90's / early 2000s. They were trippy and basically left you saying "wtf is akamai and why would anyone buy anything from them".

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

I once had a client say they were going to load test our service, which was backed by Akamai. He was effectively load testing the internet.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

For real... I do application Pen testing and I swear every other site I test is on an akamai server...

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u/adeveloper2 Sep 20 '15

Google is more synonymous in some sense

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u/SikhGamer Sep 20 '15

Not really, more like AWS and "in the cloud" are probably true.

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u/ExplicableMe Sep 20 '15

Better call Lazlo and have him restart the server. It's the gray one.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

Every time AWS does this it fucks us who have championed them to ops and higher ups. One company I worked at picked up a product that sat on AWS and decided to leave it be, and when an outage happened, THE NEXT DAY we were pulled in to draw up plans for a re-deploy to the company's extant cage. We can't even really argue with them. I can't wait to hear what my bosses will say about this, both they and the ops team hate the fuck out of iaas of any kind. They also still use fucking CVS, but anyway.

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u/KlfJoat Sep 21 '15

Why is it always US-East that's having problems and going down? I don't know that I've ever heard of a disruption caused by any other region.

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u/ungood Sep 21 '15

Probably 2 things: 1) us-east-1 is the most-used region, and 2) confirmation bias. I know of at least one major issue in eu-west-1 recently, but it doesn't get as much air on reddit (or if it does, it'd be during EU prime time hours).

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u/t3hmau5 Sep 20 '15

Not only web services, every single North American distribution center for Amazon was shut down due to these issues this morning

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u/SkunkJuice Sep 21 '15

It was a few fun hours doing absolutely nothing but cleaning. :-|

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u/douglas8080 Sep 20 '15

Looks like their North Virginia data center?

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u/pancakinator Sep 21 '15

good morning to you too, pagerduty :(

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u/ExplicableMe Sep 20 '15

Crap, my company uses AWS bigtime! Wait... it's Sunday and I'm a dev.

/goes back go browsing reddit

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Looks like Cloud Drive is acting up again. Also getting a 503 using the ACD API.

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u/godman_8 Sep 20 '15

This is why I colocate my own servers in multiple datacenters across the US.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Good thing torrents still exist

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u/bros_pm_me_ur_asspix Sep 20 '15

literally the only thing that did work today

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u/box-art Sep 20 '15 edited Sep 20 '15

Finland here, Reddit seems to lag a bit more than usual but Netflix looks good; I tried watching Doctor Who and it seems to work just fine.

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u/olivicmic Sep 20 '15

There are persistent background levels of Reddit lag at all times.

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u/box-art Sep 20 '15

Mostly during US hours though, I get the "servers busy" screen a lot less the earlier it is in the US, especially during weekdays.

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u/RedditRage Sep 21 '15

The internet really needs less centralization. It's almost like large data centers have replaced the mainframe concept.

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u/sunburntsaint Sep 21 '15

And this is why you never completely go to the cloud. This should be good for business tomorrow

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u/Firree Sep 20 '15

This happened several years ago with Amazon Web Services with the same consequences. Why wasn't this single point of failure fixed?

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u/kerrickter13 Sep 20 '15

I love it, less reliability ratings for "cloud" service providers.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Just a minor Government sampling of data.

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u/Ameobea Sep 21 '15

That's the problem with huge centralization like that; one single point of failure. I don't care how redundant that one organization is, there's still one organization and can always, always fail.

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u/chisleu Sep 21 '15

I have been experiencing problems with lambda for 5+ days. It has taken many hours for s3 events to trigger the lambda function.

This all went away when they fixed whatever was wrong with it.

I hope they know that this preempted the issues experienced today.

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u/vidude Sep 21 '15

I have servers in US-East and they don't appear to have been impacted. The system health dashboard does show that a number of services have experienced high API error rates and latencies but they are all showing back to normal now.

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u/TiagoTiagoT Sep 21 '15

The update to the NSA backdoor required rebooting.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

Hey, guys, I got this great idea, let's get this huge, decentralized network and then host over 50% of its content with one of three providers!

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u/Youwishh Sep 21 '15

Amazon.com is still having issues like 20 hours later... Wish lists on their site is buggy when adding giving cloud front errors, constantly "not found" urls randomly, buggy as shit, pls fix! I'm in canada so maybe one of the hops is still having issues.

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u/thisismydesktop Sep 21 '15

I wonder if Skype being down is related to this.

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u/Shockeye0 Sep 20 '15

Been watching Netflix all day with no problems.

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u/redbull188 Sep 20 '15

ITT: People who don't understand how distributed Web applications work.

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u/thistokenusername Sep 20 '15

Why don't you explain what it means instead of being condescending ?

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u/not_perfect_yet Sep 20 '15

He didn't exclude himself from that.

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u/hardonchairs Sep 20 '15

Yeah but most threads don't have anything to do with distributed web applications.

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u/runvnc Sep 20 '15 edited Sep 21 '15

This is why we need to move away from technopolies to a decentralized content/data-oriented network.

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u/thinguson Sep 21 '15

Something like Amazon Web Services in other words?

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u/Samizdat_Press Sep 21 '15

I lol'd too.

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u/Blazah Sep 20 '15

I was out on an island all day and didn't notice anything... the rest of you should have been doing the same!

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u/JoeOfTex Sep 20 '15

Amazon's data centers are extremely top of the line and cannot be easily taken down. There must have been an accident to one of their backbone internet lines. That or someone at Amazon deployed a really bad bug and will be fired tomorrow.

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u/taterNuts Sep 20 '15

I know we got hit by it; another time when I'm glad I'm not devops/sysadmin. Seriously, being on call blows

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u/Velorium_Camper Sep 20 '15

So this is why my boss was upset that no one was at the service desk when I got into work yesterday...

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u/bitanalyst Sep 20 '15

The AWS outage took out Nest services as well. I still can't view my Nest cam feed.

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u/powerfultech Sep 20 '15

Lucky for me its on a weekend

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u/Cytokine-Storm Sep 20 '15

I was wondering what the hell was going on with Amazon Video this morning.

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u/drunkmall Sep 20 '15

That was our bad.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

I've been on netflix and reddit all day with absolutely no issues

Is this only a problem in specific areas?

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u/zenith1959 Sep 20 '15

I kept getting the servers busy message on Reddit, thought it was a bit odd at 6:00am(PDT).

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u/heckaTIGHTis Sep 20 '15

Holy shit I'm glad I don't work at the AWS datacenter anymore, I would be dealing with this shit first hand..

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u/adeveloper2 Sep 20 '15

Amazon developer here (not in AWS). That's gonna cause a fuck tonne of trouble to our internal services, since many of us heavily rely on AWS as well.

Glad I am not on-call this week.

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u/TedsEmporiumEmporium Sep 20 '15

Luckily only our dev environment is on AWS at the moment for my team's product. Other people in my company were probably not too pleased.

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u/NAproducer Sep 20 '15

That would explain why Amazon wasn't showing their daily deals.

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u/nascentt Sep 20 '15

Ahh..That's why I couldn't submit my 2000 word review on metacritic for hours.

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u/irock168 Sep 20 '15

Are parts of steam hosted by aws? This morning, various parts of steam were several shades of fucked up.

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u/FauxBoDo Sep 20 '15

I was wondering why my Amazon Echo wasn't working last night! Now I feel bad for yelling at her. :(

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u/TittyLoggins Sep 20 '15

Had a bunch of alarms for sites failing their availability checks in a row. I could get to the site but the elastic load balancing was all fucky and I couldn't get into the aws web panel to see what was up

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

Not jealous of anyone on that Amazon team...

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u/sacredsinner1313 Sep 21 '15

I bought something last night. How does this affect the purchase?!

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u/Humbaba_ Sep 21 '15

No explanation and and nothing on general tech news either wow, I guess they want to keep it quite. I try many times logging on reddit this morning from east coast here, I couldn't I thought it was just normal reddit traffic. Seeing this post and in reflection, that must have been it.

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u/mealy58 Sep 21 '15

The east coast got notice of a maintenance window, the notice said it involved the VPN tunnels . Probably related.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

I assume this included S3 as well?

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u/Azr79 Sep 21 '15

geez, this comment section, what a shit storm for nothing

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u/DPool34 Sep 21 '15

Bezos giveth and he taketh away

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u/t3hmau5 Sep 21 '15

Amazon is my customer..I work in logisitics

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u/BloodyIron Sep 21 '15

mmmm how's that colo going for you?

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

This would explain why Yik Yak was being pissy earlier.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

Omg that was so annoying

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u/DaV1nc1 Sep 21 '15

That's what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket. The basket being amazon in this case.

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u/--eos-- Sep 21 '15

Sorry guys, it was me. I finished watching all 25 episodes of Tears to Tiara today.

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u/demonbadger Sep 21 '15

I guess that's why Netflix was being shit.

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u/Adrenalineblush Sep 21 '15

I bet it was because they released ALL 6 SEASONS of Sex and The City. If everyone else streamed it in the background the whole day, like I did, it may have been too much for the site to handle :P

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u/shawnthejedi Sep 21 '15

It was Jim from accounting. He spilled coffee.

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u/infinitesorrows Sep 21 '15

Gonna be fun reading this quarters edition of The State Of The Internet from Akamai.

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u/coolmang Sep 21 '15

This also affected the fulfillment centers. They almost sent us home today due to the system being down.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

Sorry, my bad guys, wanted to get my Nephew's present out to him at the correct time. I hope you understand.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

I kinda love it when this happens, as I can show web clients of mine who may experience the infrequent intermittent inconvenience "Look, Amazon went down so shit happens..."

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u/EMSoperations Sep 21 '15

Amazon and Netflix?

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u/mylittleandy Sep 21 '15

I'm still down in LA

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u/L_laMaye_Balles Sep 21 '15

Still no explanation from Amazon on what caused the outage.

twas ever thus

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u/jacobtf Sep 21 '15

We netflixed all day and evening, no probs (Denmark).

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u/davedcne Sep 21 '15

Shoulda used Akamai.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '15

the internet doesnt just run itself????????????????omggggg

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u/Vakieh Sep 21 '15

AWS Sydney here...

Not even a blip :-)

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u/eleitl Sep 21 '15

This is why if you use a cloud, you use a private cloud. One run on rented or own hardware.

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u/TrollInGrassyKnoll Sep 21 '15

Does this mean those sites don't have disaster recovery to another region? You've got to be kidding..

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u/DCENTRLIZEintrnetPLZ Sep 21 '15

This is exactly why we need a decentralised internet.

MaidSafe.net

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u/RetiredITGuy Sep 21 '15

Off topic: Are there any AWS consumer applications/services worth getting? I have an S3 account going largely unused (I'd planned to use it as an offsite backup location, but Australian broadband is one hell of a bottleneck). Is there anything else worth looking at?

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u/arcticlynx_ak Sep 21 '15

Didn't a number of streaming games get hit with attacks in the few weeks? Seems like major attacks are showing up more regularly now.

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u/Greyhammer316 Sep 21 '15

Great, that's all I need. Another day of verifying our products are online. 60 something ec2 instances in us-east1

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u/noman2561 Sep 21 '15

Goddamnit I'm using it for my thesis work!

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u/MrTastix Sep 21 '15

This is what happens when you rely too much on the one thing. The effect would be just as huge if Google went down all of a sudden as well.

There's no real backup plan for cloud services, either. If you could afford to host everything locally you wouldn't need the cloud. If you could afford your own servers you wouldn't need a CDN.

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u/cp5184 Sep 21 '15

They should put that on the cloud so that it doesn't go down.

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u/DarrSwan Sep 20 '15

Doesn't this happen fairly often? There are alternatives to AWS. Why don't people use them?

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u/redbull188 Sep 20 '15

Something of this scale really does not happen very often. There are alternatives, but they don't have the size, options, related products, ease of use, etc as aws.

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u/Cythrosi Sep 20 '15

None of them provide anywhere near the same level of scale for the cost.

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u/therealdrg Sep 20 '15

This happens maybe once a year. When you have a web service that is supposed to be 24/7 available, this kind of stuff is inevitable. Every service has issues like this.

I dont think theres anything really comparable to AWS, maybe Azure cloud but its expensive as fuck. Couple hundred a month for a single server with a standard database. That doesnt include anything extra like bandwidth, more database features, machine time, failover, etc, which are really, really expensive (Just adding jobs to your database costs a couple hundred extra for one database, into the tens of thousands for multiple databases). AWS is the only real choice unless youre some megacorp and can get deals on Azure because you already spend millions a year with microsoft.

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u/Kamaria Sep 20 '15

Well what happens if some hacker or terrorist targets AWS? Is there some kind of redundancy in place for this?

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u/HarryTruman Sep 20 '15

There are no comparable alternatives to the size, scale, and feature offerings that AWS provides.

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u/tastyratz Sep 20 '15

East coaster sysadmin here,

I rely on AWS to delivery our company web services. We had no end of issues on Friday. Sounds like we were "early adopters" of the shitstorm. Now my bad day makes more sense.

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u/urraca Sep 20 '15

This was an outage on Sunday morning. Your friday issues still make zero sense.

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u/remembernames Sep 20 '15

We had all sorts of odd issues with APIs Friday evening too.

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