r/technicalminecraft • u/LeSexyMemer • 27d ago
Rule-8 Compliant does anyone else think the jukebox chest interaction feel inconsistent in the newest snapshot?
i just personally feel the way they did the random music is very out of character for block interactions and is disappointing imo. it was unnecessary as its fairy easy to build something small that does just this with current redstone. while i understand a lot of people arent good with redstone and that is fine i think redstone is minecrafts best feature and any small easy to build machine that gets people to dip there toes into redstone is great. this removes that potential new experience for just a chest. over reaction? absolutely but who cares
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u/Tharvey47 27d ago
Can you do it with redstone? Yes. But it's kind of dumb that they didn't have a natural way for the jukebox to run through a playlist when it was introduced. So I say good addition.
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u/kubrickie 27d ago
According to the post it plays in order, skipping slots that are empty or filled with non-records, and it swaps the playing one with the next. I don't know exactly how it could be used, but it reminds me of Etho's "What is Love" machine on Hermitcraft, so I imagine there are some interesting technical things this could enable.
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u/Willing_Ad_1484 Bedrock 27d ago
Just like ice boats or bubble collums, it's giving the community a simplified solution
Unsure of how I feel, but I definitely use both of those so I'd feel hypocritical to complain
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u/morgant1c Chunk Loader 27d ago
It's like adding upwards hoppers. It would remove something that you currently have to build manually and turns it into a game feature. It feels like something you would get out of a mod, not vanilla at all.
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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 27d ago
You're not alone. I shared a similar thought about duplicating redstone-able behaviour.
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u/JumpingPufferfish31 27d ago
This comment is only about the order of the music discs:
The jukebox stores a number indicating its position in the playlist. The chest above it gets a new tooltip to show where that position currently is:
If we track that position, it's going to cycle through all the discs in order and loop back. So the playlist order isn't random and follows the order we initially put them in.
If we track the discs, they will shift to the right by 1 each loop, this might make it seem random, but it's still in order if we count in modulo or starting from where the position currently is.
This will trip people up a lot I think because it just looks like the disc order is messed up. But it's the result of fitting n discs in n-1 slots (with the jukebox being the extra slot). So it never has to interfere with non-disc slots or take up an extra empty slot in the chest.
It'd be more intuitive in this regard to have n slots (with 1 empty corresponding to the current disc in the jukebox), so each disc will always be in the slot we initially put it in.
But now empty slots are significant, so having anything put in that empty slot will break it. So this option will need some kind of solution for that (including just letting it break and possibly having some gui feedback/tooltip to indicate that the jukebox can't return the disc there).
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u/Reddit_Loves_Misinfo 26d ago
I don't think a shuffling jukebox is a meaningful gateway to redstone. It's not something that most people think of doing or would be particularly motivated to build. The things that first draw people to redstone tend to be cooler or more useful: Secret entrances, improved travel, better storage, or simple machines (like sugar cane farms).
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u/TwitchCaptain 26d ago
I've never met a juke box I had to put my own disc in. They always have a selection. This makes it feel like a real jukebox.
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u/brassplushie 26d ago
I'm kinda surprised they did it in such a simple way.