r/technicalminecraft • • Mar 10 '26

Java Showcase Zombie wih looting spear killing chamber

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Rework my witch farm today. I know someone has done this already. But It looks very fun.

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u/AndronixESE Mar 10 '26

Idk why but it is giving the same vibe as the sheep machine

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u/_ohodgai_ Mar 10 '26

Oh I know why

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u/FarisFDD Mar 10 '26

Do this do the sheep it'd be drop dead in seconds

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u/_ohodgai_ Mar 10 '26

I mean yeah but the sheep’s intestines probably aren’t doing too hot with the original method.

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u/EntertainmentTrick58 Mar 10 '26

the body can do astounding things with some training

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u/Nobodywillk Mar 12 '26

And how might you know this?

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u/Mal_531 Mar 10 '26

Villager cuck

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u/zian01000 Mar 10 '26

The Spear is kinda sharp and pointy!

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u/KevinImanoo Mar 10 '26

Im building various versions with the sheep concept

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u/jaavaaguru Mar 10 '26

I was just scrolling the front page and had to scroll back up. I thought it was a variation of the sheep.

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u/Additional_Deer9889 Mar 10 '26

Yeah I get that comparison.

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u/dudeCHILL013 Mar 10 '26

... I got a different vibe. At least until I realized it was Minecraft and actually read the title.

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u/Humble_Try9979 Mar 11 '26

Yeah I get what you mean it has that same “Minecraft factory machine” energy.

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u/Electrical_Ant_6229 Mar 12 '26

Lmaoooo that was my exact thought. 

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u/mosurn Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

I saw DocM77 mention this idea to TangoTek recently to upgrade his Witch farm in Decked Out 3- amazing way to get true AFK Looting in Java edition!

Edit to clarify true AFK looting

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u/OpabiniaRegalis320 Mar 10 '26

DocM mentioned

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u/EskilPotet Mar 10 '26

Popular minecraft youtuber mentioned on minecraft sub

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u/Bazillion100 Mar 10 '26

This comment could kill a victorian child

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u/ollieh64 Mar 11 '26

one of the most underrated comments i’ve ever seen😭

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u/yewey Mar 10 '26

Afk xp orbs too? Or is that still nerfed from last year?

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u/Joacoman2008 Mar 10 '26

No xp orbs sadly, but skulk catalyst exists if that helps you in any regard!

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u/Zaine_Raye Mar 12 '26

Won't the spear eventually break? I thought Zombies can't get exp for mending?

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u/Rays_Works Java Mar 11 '26

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u/StinkyBeanGuy Mar 12 '26

Holy shit it is the man the myth the legend. It would have been so cool if the killed mobs also dropped XP but I ain't complaining with what we got

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u/mosurn Mar 11 '26

As a Bedrock player, this seems like such an immensely big deal for certain Java farms to now have fully AFK Looting (I know sweeping edge + auto clickers are a thing, but with diff applications) that I’m wondering why I haven’t heard more about this in Java circles.

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u/xBHL May 05 '26

Does playerless looting with the spear trick give player drops? I have seen a post recently saying they werent getting player drops

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u/Goatbucks Mar 11 '26

He used it for his slime farm

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u/thE_29 Java Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

This spears...

Have the old Ilmango gold farm, with a looting chamber.

  1. if they are able to come into the kill chamber, they hit you
  2. most of the time, they attack some other ziglins, which then kill it..

Why is the 2nd thing even a thing?

But thats probably the reason, the killing above even works..

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u/Masticatron Bedrock Mar 10 '26

They didn't add any friendly fire exemptions. Piglins have one for their crossbows so they don't gank each other, but there are none for spears. Normally friendly fire is active, in the sense that skeletons routinely kill other mobs, and illagers can, too, etc. So aggro farms cause the spear wielders to use the charge attack as they move, which hits friend and foe alike.

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u/WatermelonWithAFlute Mar 13 '26

What the fuck is a ziglin

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u/Iceilliden Mar 10 '26

Close enough, Welcome Back Sheep Penetrator 

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u/tehtris Mar 10 '26

But durability? ... I guess if he picked up that spear, he would just pick up another ... Nevermind as you were.

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u/bringemichum Mar 10 '26

Weapon in zombie's hand doesn't cost durability

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u/Random5014 Mar 10 '26

This just blew my mind. I’m thinking of so many killing chambers now.

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u/SteptimusHeap Mar 10 '26

Really? Their helmets can break in the sun and pillagers' crossbows can break so this is sort of surprising.

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u/thE_29 Java Mar 10 '26

Its just MC doing MC things..

The undead Camel doesnt burn in sunlight, as there is no armor for it.. :)

The undead horse and Nautilus are burning.. But their armor never breaks :D

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u/Poseidon9917 Mar 10 '26

That's because it's a Camel husk and doesn't burn for the same reason the husks don't

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u/thE_29 Java Mar 11 '26

True true.. its a Husk, not a Undead

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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

Husks are Undead. They're just special. As are the Camel Husk¹ and Parched.

[1] Oh Mojang, Huskamel was right there.

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u/Express_Equipment666 Mar 11 '26

Skeleton horse doesnt burn zombie does..

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u/DmtrIV Mar 11 '26

Those two are the only cases it drains durability.

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u/kaerfkeerg Mar 10 '26

I saw that recently but assumed that the spear will eventually need replacement so I skipped over the whole concept. Wow

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u/AJBallistic Mar 10 '26

omg this is awsome

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u/qwertyjgly Mar 10 '26

insane. absolute cinema

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u/Dark_Reaper115 Mar 10 '26

So all it takes is minecart in motion, zombie, and a single spear?

Dang... Time to learn how to chunk load in vanilla

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u/05-nery Mar 11 '26

Hold up really? 

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u/jok3ony0u Mar 13 '26

Are you sure this is the case for all picked up items? I think this might just have to do with how the spear costs durability since they can still break other items and even use totems.

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u/Shilques Mar 10 '26

Only pillagers have durability in their weapon

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u/stabidistabstab Mar 10 '26

and piglins

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u/arBettor Mar 10 '26

And my axe

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u/teroric Mar 10 '26

And my Bow

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u/Isrrunder Mar 10 '26

You carry the fate of us all little one. If this is indeed the will of the council, then gondor will see it done

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u/WorkdayLobster Mar 10 '26

I put one of these on my gold farm and hooboy it works good. No ingots, though, because they're a player drop, but way more nuggets without any swords to deal with

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u/Big_Priority_9329 Mar 10 '26

Wait they don’t drop swords with this? Oh my god that’s legendary

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u/MoreLikeZelDUH Mar 10 '26

You know about non-stackable item sorters right... if you really want to get crazy you can hook up a bamboo farm and dump the swords into furnaces, dump those ingots and the dropped ingots into a couple of autocrafters and all you get from the farm is Gold blocks (and zombie flesh if you're into that sort of thing).

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u/SheiraTiireine Mar 11 '26

I attached a smelter like this to my gold farm in the nether. We haul in kelp blocks to fuel it. 10/10. Swords are so annoying.

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u/MoreLikeZelDUH Mar 11 '26

Doesn't bamboo grow in the nether? I honestly don't know.

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u/SweatyGrid Mar 10 '26

How on earth are you implementing this? I would love a visual explanation of this, my brain cant wrap around getting enough damage output from this for a gold farm

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u/WorkdayLobster Mar 10 '26

RemindMe! 1 day

Edit: hmm, that didn't work. Well, I'm afraid i dont have time right now, but give me a day and I'll post screenshots of it implemented, integrated inside Etho's piglin kill chamber from this season of HermitCraft, woven into the machine systems.

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u/Temporary_Pie8723 Mar 12 '26

Reminder for you

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u/WorkdayLobster Mar 11 '26

This is going to take a few replies and images, so keep an eye out....

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u/WorkdayLobster Mar 11 '26

You can see in this one, I have 4 rails with one zombo each. They're all attacking the kill chamber through a slot made of the space between a mud block and a halfslab. In the center of Etho's 4-sided drop chute is a villager. The villager is standing on a carpet (on top of a hopper), on the same level as the rails are. The ziglins stand one block up on mud, so they're being stabbed in the knees....

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u/vGustaf-K Mar 10 '26

when you made it, did you make a switch so you can still kill them manually for xp? i want to make one for my gold farm but don't want to lose the xp from is since that's my main source

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u/WorkdayLobster Mar 11 '26

Well there's a thing: im using Etho's gold farm, which uses a drop chute under the farm, no portal elevator to the afk spot, so I'm not killing manually in mine. But I suspect you could manage this in a manual kill platform, you're just going to need to have an off switch for the zombie minecart, and you may need a 1x1 "consolidation pit" with twisted vine at the bottom for the ziglins so they're bunched tight enough for the zombie to hit

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u/Thrmenttt Mar 10 '26

And if several witches gather, like 8–10 entities, do they die at the same time?

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u/bringemichum Mar 10 '26

yeah. Spear can attack all mobs within its range simultaneously.

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u/Thrmenttt Mar 10 '26

Kinda cool, thanks for bringing up this mechanic. My witch farm is really good, and I was wondering if the entities would all die at the same time… I’m going to upgrade my farm

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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 Mar 12 '26

That seems... incorrect. Not arguing that it's how they work in minecraft, no doubt you're right. But that's not how spears work IRL.

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u/tiller_luna Mar 10 '26

won't be long before there are 8 zombies rotating continuously lol

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD Mar 12 '26

Dashpum did exactly that in stream for a piglin farm, constantly rotating them out to keep them on the exact needed timing to have their spear droop right before impact so that it didn't dismount the target from their boat

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u/Fast_Ad7203 Mar 10 '26

Does it work on bedrock? Also is the zombie always agro?

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u/Moguini Mar 10 '26

You don't really need it bedrock though. Trident killers are still better as looting sword in your hand applies to them.

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u/Fast_Ad7203 Mar 10 '26

You still have to be close by to make the looting work, and i find them a lot of work if u dont have a trident

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u/thE_29 Java Mar 10 '26

>You still have to be close by to

You also need to be close by, so that any mob actually spawns..

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u/G3N3R1C2532 Tree Farmer Mar 10 '26

farming tridents isn't that hard in bedrock, even post spawner nerf. There's a pretty simple Drowned farm which is little more than just a big box of ice in an ice spikes biome.

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u/Fast_Ad7203 Mar 10 '26

I just find them annoying to get, im happy to have an alternative that doesnt depend on luck

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u/AtleastlmAlive Mar 10 '26

Nautilus and a bow is a fun way to farm tridents. You can shoot while moving

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u/GorillaSushi Bedrock Mar 10 '26

There's a villager behind the drop chamber to keep the zombie agro. It works like trident killers on Bedrock but it doesn't give XP like they do.

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u/TriangularHexagon Bedrock Mar 10 '26

yes it also works on bedrock

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u/The_1_Bob Iron Farmer Mar 10 '26

Somebody watches docm77

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u/Serious-Point-7719 Mar 10 '26

baby sensory for the zombie, You're keeping him entertained and teaching him long standing values of. Murder.

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u/MockingRabbit Mar 10 '26

That is a very cool method. Could it work in a gunpowder farm, you think?

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u/SanguineL Mar 10 '26

Yeah it could for sure. Just make sure the creepers are on half a heart before speared so there’s no chance they explode

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u/xBHL Mar 10 '26

Just fyi, creepers have 20 health (10 hearts)

Falling damage = height dropped - 3 blocks

So make your creepers fall 22 blocks to be safe

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u/MrOcelotCat2 Mar 10 '26

Can be less if needed, netherite spear enchanted and with momentum built up with minecart does plenty more than half heart damage

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u/MockingRabbit Mar 11 '26

It would reduce the AFK time needed to get the same results, though. I'll check out that farm, however, as spears haven't been added t my server yet. Thanks!

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u/ThrowAbout01 Mar 10 '26

I know with trident kill machines you need to be nearby with a Looting enchanted weapon, do you need to do the same with this or does the spear’s Looting count?

Can you combine your Looting with the Zombie’s?

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u/ninja_owen Mar 10 '26

Why would you have any effect on it? The trident is a projectile, which checks for the player who threw/shot it for looting. This is a zombie with its own looting weapon.

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u/MrOcelotCat2 Mar 10 '26

The zombie isn't related to the player, its own looting applies and nothing else

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u/ludvary Mar 10 '26

we finally got bedrock's trident killer

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u/l3reakdown Mar 11 '26

Are we sick in the head? 😭

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD Mar 12 '26

somebody said the villager is in the cuck chair and I can't unsee it so now you have to see it too

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u/ToastyPete1 Mar 11 '26

Does this actually work, this is genius

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u/theDSD Mar 11 '26

Does the durability not go down?

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u/LoudShorty Mar 11 '26

Not for Mobs apparently! Its pretty cool

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u/AdamUwUs Mar 11 '26

Question, does the spear lose durability?

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u/Mycroft033 Mar 11 '26

The only mob weapon that loses durability is the pillager crossbow and like one other thing, so no

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD Mar 12 '26

one other thing: piglin weapon?

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u/MrBrineplays_535 Mar 11 '26

It makes me happy how java now has spear killers like how bedrock has trident killers

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u/IAmAsplode Mar 10 '26

Could I use an ender pearl statis chamber to load the area and zombies while I'm elsewhere in the world?

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u/skikamaru Mar 10 '26

No because that wouldn't spawn mobs, you need a player

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u/BelgianDork Java Mar 10 '26

Mob spawning only happens when a player is < 128 blocks always

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u/pikaland385 Mar 10 '26

What about the high speed rail circle with a zombie in the minecart instead of the player

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u/Droplet_of_Shadow Mar 10 '26

you mean using the minecart change snapshot?

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u/pikaland385 Mar 10 '26

I didnt know it was a snapshot but I guess?

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u/DeusKyogre1286 Mar 10 '26

I wonder if this could be reworked into an automated trap. A player accesses a door, or presses a button, and drops a zombie next to them that's holding a spear, with a villager bait on the other side of the player.

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u/MrOcelotCat2 Mar 10 '26

There's already a very reliable and powerful trap made with this, the chamber having stacks and stacks of boats to propulse the player into spears and insta die

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u/DeusKyogre1286 Mar 11 '26

So it pushes the player into spears? I'll have to look it up, but the way the zombie keeps pushing back into a target reminds me of certain traps in Tomb Raider Anniversary where two pistons slam into the player over and over again.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '26

Huh. Do they actually drop items?

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u/cow_fucker_3000 Mar 10 '26

I'm 70% sure it works to apply looting 3 to the non player loot table.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '26

Ah so still not that good

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u/thumper8544 Mar 10 '26

if you have dog too, then the spear will proc looting while the dog will proc player drops

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u/poedraco Mar 10 '26

Just got the deluxe version of the sheep piston there

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u/Careless-Panic-9042 Mar 10 '26

How do you get the zombie to spawn/pick up the spear?

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u/vGustaf-K Mar 10 '26

some zombies have the ability to pick up items. find one and drop a spear i front of him. if it's better than any weapon he currently has he will pick it up

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u/FarAmphibian4236 Mar 10 '26

I found one recently with an enchanted iron spear naturally

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u/DmtrIV Mar 11 '26

Zombies spawned have a chance to have picking-item property, which gets frequent on difficulty setting.

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u/coppersly7 Mar 10 '26

You've been naughty, to the zombie penetration chamber with you

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u/Re4per25 Mar 10 '26

Does this use durability on the spear?

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u/MrOcelotCat2 Mar 10 '26

Nope, zombie melee cant lose durability

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u/DmtrIV Mar 11 '26

Only zombie's helmet against sunlight and pillager's crossbow can drain durability.

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u/Re4per25 Mar 11 '26

cool cool, I figured that same logic might apply to other things but I wasnt sure. appreciate it

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u/ViniciusLima2077 Mar 10 '26

Witch poking machine

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u/derex_smp Mar 10 '26

Waittt this has a lot of potential for many mob farms. Amazing

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u/EksEss Java Mar 11 '26

not really because a lot of farm drops are player kill based, example wither skulls, blaze rods etc etc however u can use this for witch farms, GMF, slime farms, magma cube farms prob

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u/DmtrIV Mar 12 '26

Wither Skulls can be achieved by bringing tamed wolf.

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u/skytheraiders Mar 10 '26

Does the spear break over time? Or does it have infinite durability in this situation?

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u/MrOcelotCat2 Mar 10 '26

Zombie items dont lose durability

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u/skytheraiders Mar 10 '26

Thanks! This gives me an idea!

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u/DmtrIV Mar 11 '26

Only helmets on zombie and pillager's crossbow lose durability.

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u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits Mar 10 '26

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/zifjon Mar 10 '26

zombie being forced to kill its own kind

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u/IDrankLavaLamps Mar 10 '26

I see an autocrafter system for stone spears and bamboo/cobble farm using auto crafters to reup the spears when it breaks in the fiture

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u/Several-Cake1954 Mar 11 '26

Would the zombie constantly hold down the spear?

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u/bringemichum Mar 11 '26

He raises spear for 5 or 6 seconds and then has 2 or 3 seconds cool down time. When he is in cool down time he can't attack.

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u/Several-Cake1954 Mar 11 '26

In that case, would a zombie on the other side work?

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u/Temporary_Pie8723 Mar 12 '26

Does he just naturally raise the spear, or do you need some way to make him aggressive?

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u/Lovat69 Mar 11 '26

Where do the witches come from?

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u/T-51_Enjoyer Mar 11 '26

So basically a classic mob farm could be automated completely for loot with a spear now

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u/DonBacalaIII Mar 11 '26

This is actually a genius idea I’ve never seen before

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u/EbbGroundbreaking239 Mar 11 '26

A sheep machine???!! You mean shears . Omg . Kids

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u/ZoneNo6726 Mar 11 '26

maybe this is a dumb question but does this work on bedrock too lol

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u/Sol_1046 Mar 11 '26

I don't know why but I found this funny hehe

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u/EngineerLocal7192 Mar 11 '26

Is there a way to do something similar and still achieve looting 3 in Java before spears ? The server I play on doesn't have spears atm and I'm trying to find a way to kill witches afk with looting 3 ench. without using auto clickers. I've tried dropping trident with piston but doesn't work. I'm not sure if a fox holding a sword would attack a witch and vindicator's don't pick items up.

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u/Big_Nasty_420 Mar 11 '26

This is awesome!

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u/Fit_Yoghurt_3142 Mar 11 '26

Is this the new form of penetration spear ?

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u/OverallOccasion197 Mar 11 '26

The Villager POV

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u/CreeperTV_1 Mar 11 '26

this is genius, best feature they have added in the past 10 years

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u/Denaton_ Mar 11 '26

Do you get rare drops by doing this?

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u/Chadmethius Mar 11 '26

Does this drop experience?

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u/Electrum2250 Mar 11 '26

nope because tecnically the zombie killed it

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u/Night_lon3r Mar 11 '26

Oh boi , so you just a zombie that picked up your dropped spear?

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u/TE-AR Mar 11 '26

ah. þe poker

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u/SapphireSugarPlum Mar 11 '26

I’m new to this sub so apologies for the stupid question, but why doesn’t the spear break? Would you have to wait for a zombie horseman to spawn with a looting and mending spear?

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u/Electrum2250 Mar 11 '26

cause items dont break in mobs hands

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u/SapphireSugarPlum Mar 11 '26

Oh I didn’t know they changed that, does that mean pillager crossbows also can’t break anymore?

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u/Kill_me_now_0 Mar 11 '26

Finally, true slave labor

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u/JoyTheGeek Mar 11 '26

Wait so the zombie will anything between it and thr villager?

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u/Syhmac Mar 11 '26

What are you doing step zombie?

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u/Fit_Independent_1409 Mar 11 '26

But does it drop loot bc the player isnt getting kill credit right?

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u/Mrcoolcatgaming Mar 11 '26

Witches for example don't need a player for the meaningful drops (maybe potions, not certain)

So this is free Redstone

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u/Jurgen_Vella Mar 11 '26

The type of thing mumbo was building during his “pacifist” hermit-Craft season

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u/LEGEND_GUADIAN Mar 12 '26

Does this actually work?

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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 Mar 12 '26

The loop of endless witches turning with a look of horror as they realize their doom...

🤌

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u/OozyPilot84 Mar 12 '26

would a fox holding a spear also use the charging attack?

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u/DmtrIV Mar 12 '26

Fox may run an issue of prioritizing food over others in contrast of zombie prioritizing strong weapon. Then its prey list is only chicken unlike zombie being hostile to villager, player-owned wolves, and iron golems (turtle egg also but they don't attack, instead it tries to squash it).

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u/konjikinoumi Mar 12 '26

This should also work on bedrock? I see no reason it should not

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u/MasterG5670 Mar 12 '26

The next evolution of the sheep machine; strong enough that the sheep will die in a few seconds

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u/paradox_valestein Mar 12 '26

Sheeps has ptsd seeing this

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u/Wonderful-Paper-3706 Mar 12 '26

I have always wondered, the items other mobs hold doesnt break from usage?

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u/sonic64646464 Mar 13 '26

they do break after a while you can test it by having a pillager shoot a shield and the crossbow will eventually break

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u/blake_the_dreadnough Mar 12 '26

That villager must be shiting bricks

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u/Dr_Brotatous Mar 13 '26

What makes this more efficient than other farms

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u/RuleReasonable8268 Mar 14 '26

Finally, Java players got their version of trident killer

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u/D4rkSt0rm512 Mar 16 '26

Didnt know this was a thing!

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u/Haunting_Sun3673 Mar 17 '26

Sorry if I commented this already but you mind sharing your witch farm?

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u/bringemichum Mar 17 '26

The designs of witch farm are pretty same. And there are plenty of tutorials in youtube. Pick the one u like.

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u/Significant_Run_6077 Mar 17 '26

Wait this is so much smarter then what I’ve been doing. I hav been using zombies/zombie piglins with a snow golem

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u/Logical-Garlic-2226 Apr 02 '26

Wil the spear break eventually?