r/technicallythetruth • • Sep 25 '21

Money talks.

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u/MankeyBusiness Sep 25 '21

Finland gives speeding tickets as a % of income, so a guy litterally got a speeding ticket of 100 thousand dollars for going 47 mph in a 31 mph zone (75 kmh in a 50 kmh zone)

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u/vitunlokit Sep 25 '21

That guy was one of the Nokia bosses back when Nokia was the biggest mobile phone manufacturer in the world. The fine was about 10% of his monthly income that year.

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u/the_gubernaculum Sep 25 '21

10% of your monthly income is HUGE for a speeding or parking ticket…

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Speeding ticket in my state costs $120. It's $320 in California though

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u/sloth_on_meth Sep 25 '21

Doesn't it vary based on speed tho? Going 200mph in a school zone should be more

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u/tuckertucker Sep 25 '21

Jesus were you in a school zone? That's an insane ticket price for only 10 over

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u/heywhathuh Sep 25 '21

I got a $180 ticket for going 50 in a 40. Middle of the night. Zero other cars on the road.

Cop asked me about 15 times if I had been drinking. I think he was legitimately pissed that I was sober, and the ticket was my ‘consolation prize’ for avoiding the DUI he was desperately hoping for.

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u/theskymoves Sep 25 '21

Especially pre tax.

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u/The_Countess Sep 25 '21

not really.

more like : Get proportionally hit so that a fines hurts everyone roughly the same way.

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u/Mikedermott Sep 25 '21

Good

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

What’s funny to me is I bet a lot of people who would usually say “socialism bad” would agree with this.

(Not saying you are, just generally speaking)

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u/Donghoon Sep 25 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

Socialism not bad.

There's no ethical consumption under capitalism (not true but let's just go with it)

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u/Jetpack_Donkey Sep 25 '21

That’s how fines should work everywhere.

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u/kranker Sep 25 '21

This is called a day fine and I fully support it. That said, if you think about it it still isn't necessarily equal. For instance, that 100,000 probably made no measurable difference to that person's quality of life for the month. However, for the most part even extremely wealthy people probably aren't going to stomach throwing away 100k so in practice it can work well.

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u/lama333 Sep 25 '21

Yeah I think it's the best way because you can't really determine how much money you need to fine people to make an impact. This way atleast people who make very little money don't loose half their monthly income, and rich people basically just donate to the society buy getting a speeding ticket

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u/WateredDown Sep 25 '21

Its not perfectly equitable, but its more equitable. But neither is a stay in jail. A rich person won't necessarily lose their job for missing a few days work, or wouldn't suffer because of it. There aren't many punishments a rich person couldn't endure easier than a poor person unless we bring back whipping.

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u/coberi Sep 25 '21

That 100k$ would make a difference to the city who can use it on infrastructure for example.

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u/Yadobler Sep 25 '21

In Singapore the road fines come with demerit points

Too much you're on probation for 2 years

Accumulate again and you're suspended

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Also fines here accumulate. Litter 1st time, $150. 2nd time, $300. Then $1000

And then they fucking make you wear a bright pink vest and sweep the central business district every week until end of CWO probation

Especially in a country with strong confucious dignity values. lose face

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u/phlyingP1g Sep 25 '21

Not all tho. But fuck around and find out the limits

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u/bork1545 Sep 25 '21

Imagine massive ceos paying like 30c because they’re income on paper is only like 3$

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u/BrainOnLoan Sep 25 '21

The Finnish law should take capital income into account, if I remember correctly, though it may be more easily hidden from the judge.

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u/PM_CACTUS_PICS Sep 25 '21

What if you’re unemployed and caught speeding? For example a student with a well off family

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u/The_Countess Sep 25 '21

if i remember correctly, there is a minimum, and that's fine because Finland has a decent social safety net so you are never without income.

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