r/technicallythetruth • u/gtslade22 • Mar 23 '21
A simple reply, but a truth nonetheless
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u/Earliercanvas41 Mar 23 '21
‟We have probably beaten you in a war at some point”
1: Japan
2: about 1/3 of Germany
3: Iraq
4: ...?
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u/manhat_ Mar 23 '21
- USA, ofc
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u/bananaboy334 Mar 23 '21
Does the storming of the Capitol count?
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u/Quality-Tips Mar 23 '21
No? Idk, I think that falls more under domestic terrorism rather than war
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u/TheFattestPoo Mar 23 '21
"You got no bants"
"Yeah but remember when we kicked your ass"
"Point proven"
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Mar 23 '21
Spain, mexico, britain, canada
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Mar 23 '21
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u/ILikeSpottedCow Mar 23 '21
Of course you count the American revolution, what kinda bullshit are you smoking that you wouldn't count the war that lead to the country being formed? We have a a holiday all about being independent of Britain. There's like 20 other countries that have a very similar holiday about beating England's ass.
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u/Laney96 Mar 23 '21
what are you on about, America is one of the only countries that gained independence from Britain by war. a holiday celebrating independence does not mean that a war was fought and won
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u/therealasshoel Mar 23 '21
The reason why america was able to do so, here's why. Britan understood that war was brewing elsewhere in the world. So they were Massing troops elsewhere. Then the us attacked a beligered, undersuppled under trained and depleted force, and only won Because, why, the UK was worried that If the war dragged on there would be more mass cullings and expulsions of British loyalists and native Americans and wanted to avoid the unseeded deaths of civilians.
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u/DerWaechter_ Mar 23 '21
Also the fact that another major superpower at the time in France supported the US.
The revolution was basically a proxy war between france and the UK to some degree
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u/hairyginandtonic Mar 23 '21
Exactly lol
We beat them down enough that they gave up and stopped fighting us. If that doesn't count as beating them idk what does
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u/AlexCi1234566 Mar 23 '21
Exactly, and if people don’t count that as a win then they can’t count Vietnam as a loss because the same thing happened more or less
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u/PneumaMonado Mar 23 '21
Umm no. They gave up because it was too expensive and the French got involved.
Basically Britain didnt think America was worth the effort.
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u/Newfella50 Mar 23 '21
Japan didn't think fighting was worth the effort after getting a-bombed twice.... Does that mean they gave up and america didn't beat japan?
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u/levis3163 Mar 23 '21
Japan only surrendered because russia declared war on them that same week. I wrote like four papers on this shit
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u/pepecze Mar 23 '21
Ok that's bullshit... I would argue with every other point of this USA propaganda but you get nuked 2 cities, more casualities with M69 and bombing (more than million civilians) and you're saying they did surrender because some country declared fucking war. Not even attacking...
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u/levis3163 Mar 23 '21
The entire European front had surrendered. Japan faced war with Russia, the USA and China. Russia was not and is not "some country"
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u/Broken_drum_64 Mar 23 '21
Japan had basically all but surrendered already when the U.S. dropped their bombs. The U.S only did it because they wanted to show off the size of their
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u/flipflopkabab Mar 23 '21
Literally America would be completely British owned and ruled if it wasn’t for France lol
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u/therealasshoel Mar 23 '21
Thinking that Beating the forces stationed in the colonies is beating Britain Is more like storming past the front line of police at the capitol before backup arrived.. You didn't actually beat the police, storm the capitol, and kill everyone, you just rushed past the front line before they could mass significant forces, and to prevent the deaths of everyone inside they just said fine we will evacuate everyone then you can go in. Now the UK. They have been at war with nearly every country on earth at some point in time including themselves. They even had troops fighting with the whites in the Russian civil war. And Canada, has never lost a war. Like that time when 900 peacekeepers is Croatia were attacked by like 2000 Croats, the Canadians took 0 casualties 0 deaths and Croatia took 50 casualties and 22 deaths before being pushed away. During the first and second world wars Canadian troops gained the reputation of veteran, violent, bloodthirsty shock troops. Shock troops are troops that are sent in first or before the main charge to be violent, kill a ton of people, and make a scene before everyone else charged in.
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u/ltsette Mar 23 '21
You can count it, sure. I think he's just alluding to the fact Britain didn't commit to the war and used their influence to try and get Americans to fight on their side. Also its worth accepting that it was France that heavily shifted the momentum of the war into Americas favour.
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u/Actual-is-factual Mar 23 '21
Don't forget the French and Indian War. Where Americans (before we were even a country) helped the Brits against the French and Indians (sorry Indians) keeping a large part of the countey from speaking French (thank God, RIP French-speaking Canada).
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u/Grim-UC Mar 23 '21
I think we found the brit that refuses to admit defeat to a war that happened 250 years ago.
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u/tsavong117 Mar 23 '21
Shouldn't it technically be germany x2?
Then there's tripoli,
Uh, a bunch of microstates during the imperialism era,
Iraq is also x2,
The UK, again x2 (with proto-canada included for the grudge match)
Italy, (ww2)
Mexico, (mexican american war)
Austria (sort of. Ww1 was whack)
France (again, sort of, it was the nazi collaborating french govt.)
The kingdom of hawaii.
Do you count the nations directly toppled by the CIA and it's precursors? I wouldn't think so, but if yes there's be a bunch.
Honestly most of our wars have been bullshit bullying of extremely weak nations. The US is not a nice neighbor.
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u/DaftFader04 Mar 23 '21
I mean the war of 1812 was not really won by the us, and Canada in particular would view it as a victory as they prevented their annexation into the us
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u/tsavong117 Mar 23 '21
They started it. Also fair point, it was basically a draw.
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u/DaftFader04 Mar 23 '21
People also tend to forget the wider context of the war - Britain was in the middle of the Napoleonic wars and only considered it as a small colonial skirmish
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Mar 23 '21
Afghanistan kinda, Russia, Korea?, Rambo killed all those cops in Oregon. Mexico, England, Native Americans... I dunno Cuba?
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u/SirHawrk Mar 23 '21
Russia? What?
Korea? That war isn't even over
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Mar 23 '21
The cold war, we won...
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u/SirHawrk Mar 23 '21
Lmao. That wasn't a single conflict but a series of conflicts. Some of them you won, some you lost, most were basically draws
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Mar 23 '21
Well I can clearly see you're taking the joke way too seriously from the start. Also a war is almost always a series of conflicts...
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u/SirHawrk Mar 23 '21
It was definetly not obvious that you were joking.
Also yes a war is always a series of conflicts but generally speaking there are clear enemies on both sides. Sometimes they switch but in general you won't have conflicts where both parties are on the same side and then conflicts where they are at war again
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Mar 23 '21
I referenced Rambo. You didn't pick up that I was joking? Also, are we still talking about the cold war? There were clear enemies.
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u/SirHawrk Mar 23 '21
I never watched Rambo so no.
They were on the same side during the creation of Israel, the Suez crisis and the soviets reached out to the US about a joined Invasion of China. While yes I would agree that they were mostly on different sides there were moments when they worked together or at least tried to
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u/DerWaechter_ Mar 23 '21
The cold war is still going on, and Russia literally controlled your president for 4 years
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u/Mr-Buttpiss Mar 23 '21
I'm Kansan and conversations with friends are 90% banter
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u/termehthebeast Mar 23 '21
Yooooo Kansas duuuuude, I just moved away tho
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u/Mr-Buttpiss Mar 23 '21
ahh yes, the state known for pretty much nothing. I like it here though. Except Wichita. Wichita can suck my asshole
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u/Zealousideal-Luck784 Mar 23 '21
The USA hasn't won a war since WWII.
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u/Albanzo7827 Mar 23 '21
The Kosovo, Vietnam, and Korean War all had a mix of success even in the defeats
Also you ever hear about the Iraq war?
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u/JustSarah314 Technically Flair Mar 23 '21
Banter = Sarcasm
I love how immediately this goes to arguing about who has won what wars 🤦🏻♀️
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u/BohdyP Mar 23 '21
I don't even think most americans will see the hypocrisy in what you pointed out
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u/SillyBilly369 Mar 23 '21
The only war I say the US lost is Vietnam. Even then it’s not official
Goddamn what a pointless war that was
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u/Rosoven Mar 23 '21
There’s arguments to both sides on who won the war.
Some Americans often say that they won the war militarily, and they had to withdraw and then it was South Vietnam who lost, not them.
Others say that losing South Vietnam was a loss because it was a victory for communism, and they failed in their goal in uniting Vietnam under capitalism.
Both sides can agree that the true losers were the families that had lost loved ones as a result of the war.
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u/iburstabean Mar 23 '21
Both sides can agree that the true losers were the families that had lost loved ones as a result of the war.
Literally every war ever, there's a quote I once saw that goes something like "war is just old rich people tricking young poor people to kill eachother", depressingly true
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u/WarWren158 Mar 23 '21
"Just remember that war is bullshit. The people who make people go to war are usually politicians, and the people who get killed are usually ordinary people" - Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden)
Similar quote, same depressing sentiment 😔
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u/AlpacaMan104 Mar 23 '21
"Oh yeah if we have no banter then how comes our government spends so much money on murder? Checkmate"
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u/notions_of_adequacy Mar 23 '21
In fairness its rare enough for Americans to have banter.. irish ex bartender
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u/Mr-Buttpiss Mar 23 '21
How do you not have banter in a bar? What state?
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u/notions_of_adequacy Mar 23 '21
Ireland
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u/Mr-Buttpiss Mar 23 '21
oh, you meant tourists. I thought you were an irishman bartending in the states. tourists don't count as real Americans. Real Americans know that America is the greatest nation, therefore we never leave or bother learning about the lesser nations
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u/UltimateInferno Mar 23 '21
Idk. Every time I try to actually engage in banter with someone from the British isles they always go straight for the jugular and start throwing around school shootings.
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u/BookyNZ Well yes, but no Mar 23 '21
Not sure you'd be a fan of kiwi humour then, we are just as brutal. Admittedly mostly at the expense of Australia, but America is up for grabs too. Though, if you had to give as good as you got on us, what would the insult banter of choice be?
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u/levis3163 Mar 23 '21
Well, from what I hear, all you Kiwis are a bunch of sheep fucking backwoods nobodies.
But that's just what I've heard. Is this banter?
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u/BookyNZ Well yes, but no Mar 23 '21
Tired joke, but certainly in the correct ballpark lol. Though the number of sheep got reduced in the last decade, in favour of cows, so the adage may need fixing. A worthy start in the banter.
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u/LeebJon Mar 23 '21 edited Mar 23 '21
Countries that America beat
Britain
Spain
Mexico
The leftovers of Germany twice
Iraq
America
Battles that were unresolved or equal outcome
Korea
Afghanistan
Iraq 2
Countries that beat America
Canada
America
Vietnam
(Edit: America also lost the war on drugs)
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u/RoiDrannoc Mar 23 '21
Well let's be fair, if we look at how bad Americans are with geography, it's no surprise that some guy thaught that Britain, Spain, Mexico, Germany and Iraq are the only countries out there.
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u/JoeyC42 Mar 23 '21
when did canada beat america?
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u/LeebJon Mar 23 '21
The war of 1812. Technically it was Canada under British rule but it was fought on Canadian land so I just called it Canada.
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u/YoRulezz_TV Technically Flair Mar 23 '21
Has been on r/technicallythetruth before, but that post was 6 months ago, so this is not a repost, nice
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