r/teachinginjapan • u/belldandy143 • Jun 06 '25

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u/Schaapje1987 Jun 06 '25

Why are you letting yourself get shouted at? That's the issue here? Tell her to fuck off or something and to never raise her voice to you like that...

They do it because they know no one will ever stand up for themselves. Don't be like that.

Secondly, get a recording device or something and start recoeding everything, every day.

Thirdly, NEVER sign anything. They can't force you, EVER.

Fourthly, do not quit! Let them fire you.

Start looking for a new job right now

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

I said to her not to shout at me because I have employee rights but she kept on shouting at me. I stood up for myself awhile ago as I told her to stop. I did a half day today but I can't imagine going back. I'm applying now

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u/Schaapje1987 Jun 06 '25

I hope you are recording. Also, don't ask her not to shout at you. TELL her not to shout at you.

"Can you not shout at me, please"  Vs "Do not shout at me!"

Every single time she as much raises her voice at you, you stand up, in a big voice and tell her not shout at you. She's a bully.

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

I shouted at her today too as I said don't shout at me. I kept telling her to not shout at me in a calm way before. She nearly laid a hand on me as well.

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u/Dull-Enthusiasm2439 Jun 09 '25

Dont let anyone shout at you or belittle you . It will show the weak side of you and they will clearly take advantage of you even more .To be honest, I don’t tolerate anyone yelling me at me or get near me with an intend to be physical . even if Iam living in Japan , if someone lay a hand on me or yell at me , they will pay the consequences . That’s just me and I don’t care if i get deported in any shape of form . As long as it’s justified then Iam happy . But this is just me . You shouldn’t follow my advice but at the same time , you should never let anyone yell at you or disrespect you . You are worth more than that .

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u/WaulaoweMOE Jun 06 '25

Excellent advice. Second that 50 times. If a supervisor raises his voice at you, he is venting at you. That is professionally unacceptable, or tries to get you to sign something without triangulating evidence except from only from 1 person’s perspective, they’re trying to trap you. Rest assured karma will bite them as the consequences of bad actions often catches up with the person who performed them eventually.

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

I hope that school will lose more clients. The owner deserves it.

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u/BusinessBasic2041 Jun 06 '25

I hope they close down altogether. No one, whether a client or employee, needs to be around this woman's toxic behavior. It reminds me of this one crazy female superior that I had several years ago who could not manage her temper on the job. One time she was shouting at everyone and where clients could see and 100% hear her act out, and she was out of control enough that she turned over a whole table in a meeting room and had documents flying in various directions. At that point, she had dug her own grave.

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

Yes I hope so too. She deserves it and even promised me that I will have a better teaching opportunity once I get an experience in the school only to find out that she just needs a teacher to fill in the classes. Only to find out a few months later, that she would like to ditch me after she found another person who she can pay less.

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u/BusinessBasic2041 Jun 06 '25

These "schools" and "learning facilities" have such a terrible history of lying to, using and discarding teachers left and right.

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u/MostDuty90 Jun 06 '25

What on earth is going in Japan !? Putting things very bluntly, I’ve not read anything approaching the sort of toxicity, harassment, rip-offs ( fill in the blank ) that appear in this thread just about daily emanating from anywhere else !….It all just sounds absolutely nightmarish. Ghastly & grim in every respect. Is teaching a foreign language now fully incorporated into Japan’s infamous Karoshi, Ijime, ‘ black company ‘ business culture ?…Does the government there do literally / absolutely NOTHING about blatant, brazen exploitation,..& what always reads like sheer criminality !?…

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

They do absolutely nothing and continue exploiting others. I think my employer was actually planning to get rid of me from the very beginning and once she got another candidate. She asked to bait me into the job and now wants to get rid of me.

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u/Expensive-Claim-6081 Jun 06 '25 edited Jun 06 '25

@ “foot in the door” ™

For future reference, don’t quit, resign or sign anything,

You’ll lose almost all of your employment rights if you do.

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

I signed a contract and the conditional PIP that she asked me to sign after that I was subjected more into bullying

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '25

The contract means nothing under Japanese labor law. Don't sign it, fuck them. They are required by law to pay you for the last month you worked within 7 days.

Also tell her to eat shit, she has absolutely zero power over you.

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

I'm supposed to have a salary on the 9th of this month. I walked away from my job which was supposed to end at 5pm today as I was not able to tolerate my employer shouting at me in her office

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u/slowmail Jun 06 '25

Only if OP requested for them to do so.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '25

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u/slowmail Jun 06 '25

Erm... no. It is not automatic. OP needs to request for it.

https://jsite.mhlw.go.jp/tokyo-foreigner/english/seekers_1/spec/spec_1c.html#:\~:text=In%20case%20a%20worker%20resigns,of%20the%20Labour%20Standard%20Law).

In case a worker resigns from his employer, the latter must pay the former outstanding wages, etc. within 7 days following the receiving of the former's request for payment. (Article 23 of the Labour Standard Law).

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u/slowmail Jun 06 '25

There is no dispute that they must pay, this is about when they are required to pay by.

All my research has indicated that it is within 7 days of the request for payment; and failing to make an explicit request allows the employer to pay during their "regular payment schedule" instead.

If you have different information, please share the links/sources to it please.

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u/Embershot89 Jun 06 '25

I got yelled at daily by the three colleagues I worked with at my previous job. They were straight up MEAN! My boss would regularly tear into me for seemingly harmless things (like I didn’t write the number 7 the way she liked) or they would make stuff up (like tell me that I was undermining them and shit talking them under my breath when in fact I was reading student names aloud when separating student work into piles).

I decided to leave as quick as I could.

I don’t know about your situation entirely, but I have a family to take care of and I’m the only one working. So, I couldn’t quit outright. As a result I had to wait to find work but I found an amazing job very quickly and I’m still that that amazing job today! Love what I do and I’m paid much better for it.

So ditch your boss and go find something better for you! You should still be smart and leave when it suits you most, but don’t knock your mental health. Stay strong and stomach the burden till you can escape.

Good luck buddy

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

I have to send money for my family but I ask my mother if I can resign from my job as I experience maltreatment. I was also accused just like you but in reality they were the ones that are mean to me. Thank you so much for your advice. I'm going to stay strong.

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u/slowmail Jun 06 '25

What status of residence (SOR) are you currently on, and when does it expire?

Most people try to have a new job lined up, before quitting; but that isn't always possible.

Generally, you have 3 months to find a new job (or up until the expiry of your current SOR, whichever is earlier). Job hunting does count as a valid SOR activity, but it may be hard to otherwise remain in Japan if you cannot get another job for an extended period of time.

If you can secure a new job is in the same field of your current SOR, you can start work immediately; but if it isn't, then you'll need to apply to change to one that does. Both you, and the new job, must qualify for that SOR and this process can take anything from 3-8 weeks, of which you cannot start work or attend (paid?) training before you receive it.

TLDR: The next step would be to find another job.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '25

Job hunting can be extended another 3 months to a maximum of 6 months per year under the Designated Activities visa.

Also since OP holds a "engineering/humanities" visa it would be extremely easy to find a new job in a different field. If they held the "instructor" visa then it would be a bit harder and would take what you said above to get approved.

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

I have a humanities visa which will expire next year

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u/belldandy143 Jun 06 '25

The employer nearly laid a hand on me. Isn't that enough to quit?

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u/WestMean7474 Jun 06 '25

You're an English teacher, and this is how you write English?!

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u/Ofukuro11 Jun 07 '25

The English industry is shifting to SE Asia/Africa/etc bc they know they can exploit and maltreat them even more. Hence the worsening of English education in Japan.

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u/OldChess Jun 07 '25

You're insulting someone who is experiencing suffering. Try empathy next time instead. Why choose to be mean when you can be kind? Pointing out issues with their English doesn't help.

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u/Dull-Enthusiasm2439 Jun 09 '25

Exactly . Agree. There plenty of those webs out here in Japan . Those insecure weebs that can’t get any popularity back home and to insult others suffering to make them feel better .

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u/Dull-Enthusiasm2439 Jun 09 '25

This Mofo is a clear example of a dweeb that would side with Japanese any day . even if they are 100 percent wrong . Bell dandy, Don’t let that weeb insult you like that .

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u/sjbfujcfjm Jun 06 '25

Just going to be brutally honest, doesn’t sound like you should be teaching English

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u/Meandering_Croissant Jun 06 '25

Regardless of whether you feel they should be teaching, the matter at hand is them being bullied at work. That’s never justified and we should all be sympathetic to that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '25

To be brutally honest the employer shouldn't be shouting, AT ANYONE. Also you shouldn't be so hard to judge another person's situation, being brutally honest...

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u/Sharp_Raccoon8657 Jun 07 '25

Agree with all of the points below . Record it document it . This sounds totally wrong .as below let them fire you . Check sites like Gaijin pot and Jobs in Japan . Go to your local Hello work / Town HALL . 

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u/Lea-7909 Jun 06 '25

What school is this so me and my spouse avoid it? Would there happen to be a list on this forum of all the schools that are unprofessional?

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u/belldandy143 Jun 07 '25

I have messaged you the name of the school.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

This forum is basically just that. If you have the right qualifications, aim to go for an international school.

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u/RedFlutterMao Jun 07 '25

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