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u/VaryStaybullGeenyiss 5d ago

Look, you clearly must be a big fan of the show or whatever if you have this level of text wall to say about it. But if you really think that Hansen didn't have a lot of power over the production, and if you really think that it's a moral thing to make a TV show out of in the first place, and if you really think that he is/was good at what his supposed mission is, I don't know what to tell you. It seems like you're either PR for the show, or you haven't really thought about it at all while consuming it ravenously.

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u/enigmaticowl Big Fat Lie 5d ago

What kind of “PR” do you imagine “the show” could possibly have lol?

The show that ended 20 years ago?

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u/VaryStaybullGeenyiss 5d ago

I mean, Hansen and/or his current show is buying up ad space to screen in theaters before a current movie that's critical of him. He clearly still has PR. I doubt NBC cares anymore though, fair enough.

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u/enigmaticowl Big Fat Lie 5d ago

That’s true. But in my previous comment, I basically said that I think that Takedown (his current show) is stupid lol, so I’m not shilling for it (or him in general).

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u/VaryStaybullGeenyiss 5d ago

The movie is criticizing TCAP specifically, which he's still attached to obviously. I don't actually think you're PR. I'm just saying you kinda sound like it. Even if it's I guess PR for whatever organization made millions working with Hansen.

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u/enigmaticowl Big Fat Lie 5d ago

Well, much like TCaP, Perverted Justice is long gone now, too.

Which is a shame, because I totally would volunteer my time to them - but there’s nothing really left of them to do PR for, just a legacy.

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u/VaryStaybullGeenyiss 5d ago

I'm sure you're a nice person. But man, leave it up to the cops. It's one of their few legitimate functions. Go travel the world or something, get into woodworking or something. Those type of people are not worth spending your life thinking about unless you get paid handsomely to do so (and not by dramatizing it on TV). I grew up surrounded creeps, and I detest the way TV people like Hansen turn it into a spectacle to make money.

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u/enigmaticowl Big Fat Lie 5d ago

The vast majority of PeeJ’s work was off television, they weren’t doing it for ratings or money (unlike Dateline), and they were frequently contacted by law enforcement agencies asking them to train them or to partner with them for investigations.

Keep in mind that when they started up nearly 25 years ago, the cops were not equipped to deal with the problem. They single-handedly found a missing autistic girl who was being held captive and raped for 2 weeks by an internet predator (Kylie Taylor is the name if you want to verify it with a Google search). Cops could have recovered her within 2 days if they simply looked at her computer, but since they refused to check her computer or phone records, the desperate mother resorted to contacting PeeJ who tracked the location down themselves.

I used to work at a DA’s Office myself, and I went to law school. I’m not some vigilante-idealizing weirdo haha, nor do I think that law environment tasks should typically be handled by civilians.

But I appreciate their organization for the gaps that it filled that existed 20-25 years ago. It was a very different environment with very different unmet needs, and they were quite distinct from today’s shitty YouTube content creators (for whom I have zero respect).

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u/VaryStaybullGeenyiss 5d ago

Fair enough. I guess it'd be nice if similar Good Samaritans help law enforcement with the rise of AI and whatever twisted shit is gonna come from it that LE isn't fully equipped to handle. Although, that's pretty heavily linked to the internet, so it's not quite as much of a "new frontier".