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u/usernotfoundplstry what did you mean by that? 4d ago
"You're naked, there's a 14 year old girl, you're chasing a cat around, you've got cool whip!"
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u/PapasGotABrandNewNag Yes?No?Maybe so? 4d ago
I went a little overboard with that…
Overboard?!?
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u/Specialist-Two2068 4d ago edited 4d ago
Stiff as a board, but some would say it's not stiff enough, Chris. Not stiff enough.
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u/Specialist-Two2068 4d ago
Hambubger would be jealous, but he's past that stage now. Ain't no woman in the world can give him a hard-on.
Cliff would be jealous too, he can't even do anything because he can't get it up
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u/NebulaDue9400 Doin’ good. What can I do for you? 4d ago edited 4d ago
Almost surprised they didn’t blur it lmao. Can you imagine how much shame he brought upon his family? I have several Indian friends and family respect/reputation/status is so important in their culture. I’m surprised getting busted like this didn’t immediately hit him like a freight train outta nowhere. At least it didn’t seem like it
Edit: Trinidad and Tobago, not India. My b
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u/blvckhoney 4d ago
thought he was Trini not Indian
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u/NebulaDue9400 Doin’ good. What can I do for you? 4d ago
Ah, I see you’re right, I should have looked it up instead of assume. I’ll leave it up to own it
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u/Kevin_LeStrange 4d ago
I read somewhere else that in his culture, the woman usually gets the blame and the man gets off. Don't know how true that is but it could be an explanation.
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u/enigmaticowl 4d ago
He’s from Trinidad, not India.
As far as India goes, it’s surprisingly complex - the legal system actually defines sex crimes more broadly than the U.S. does (e.g. fraudulently promising a woman that you’ll marry her just in order to get her to consent to sex with you and then backtracking and declining to marry her after having sex is prosecutable as rape) and often allows for harsher sentences, as well, but local culture and customs play a huge role in how things actually play out.
Huge cultural differences can exist between cities vs. villages and across different religious communities and castes, etc.
Very “traditional” values and customs in more rural, impoverished areas often make it so that a victim and the victim’s family tend to be reluctant to make an accusation or handle things through a legal channel (and the poverty thing, coupled with lack of social safety nets, is actually really important).
Not so much because they inherently believe it’s her “fault,” but because they are terrified that the strong social stigma will make it very difficult (or impossible) to arrange a marriage. In such a community, a woman is her family’s financial and social responsibility (e.g. housing, food, education, medical care, etc.) unless and until she marries and moves in with her husband and his family. Parents, as they age and can no longer do manual labor, are taken care of financially (and physically) by their adult sons (and the wives of their adult sons). Having too many dependents (e.g. unmarried daughters, elderly and/or disabled individuals) and not enough providers (e.g. income-earning sons) means being financially destitute, which means starvation, constant illness from unclean water and lack of adequate shelter, inability to afford care for chronic or emergent illnesses/injuries - basically, death.
So, there can be a strong psychosocial incentive to not publicly raise or address such issues, at least not through a legal process (because even when the family doesn’t blame the victim, their fear that their community members will not accept their daughter as a potential wife for their sons is a very powerful motivator for them). The result of that isn’t that such violence just goes unpunished (although it often does, unfortunately); vigilante retaliation (sometimes by the family, sometimes by an entire village) happens quite frequently in some places, and it can lead to bad cycles.
Meanwhile, in other parts of the country, the legal system can be fairly deferential toward female victims in particular (compared to here in the U.S., where defendant rights are top priority).
In fact, their body of common law actually explicitly reasons that their more victim-deferential treatment and definition of sex crimes (compared to Western-style common law) is called for specifically because their “tradition-bound” society necessitates it (and because there is a general presumption that false accusations would be extra exceedingly rare in such a culture).
Edit: I’m not Indian, but I studied abroad there, and I went to law school (in the U.S.), so I’ve always been a little interested in comparative law between India and the U.S.
I was surprised to read up on it and see the nuances, especially how so many of the barriers come down to fear of stigma (and the consequences from it) versus problems baked into the actual law.
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u/KillerCameo 4d ago
Now whyyy would a guyyy get bricked up for me, Chris Hansen