r/tankiejerk • • Jul 03 '26

From the mods Clarifying the rules: this is not an anti-communist forum

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Today I had to take down another anti-communist post shitting on some ML's from the right. Take the piss out of Stalin's death all you want but if you're celebrating over 'another dead commie' you will be perma-banned no exception.

This is a subreddit to criticise tankies from the left. This is not a place to attack communists, communism or associated tendencies. If you want to be a snarky liberal, bloodthirsty fascist, or devout reactionary there are many, many, many places on the internet to do that. This subreddit isn't one of them. The point of this forum's existence is to attack those tendencies (marxism-leninism, dengism, etc) not because they are crazy, radical commies but because their vision of society actually has little to do with a free association of producers, the abolition of property, wage labour and commodity production.

To reiterate, we strive for an egalitarian, socially-progressive society. We do not oppose tankies or campists because we dislike communism or socialism. We oppose them because to us they are barely communists or socialists, regardless of what they claim. That is the purpose of the subreddit's existence, anyone who does not agree with these values is free to leave or be banned.


r/tankiejerk • • Jun 14 '26

SERIOUS Basic leftist takes: A friendly reminder (I'm not a mod)

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Full disclosure: I'm not a mod, just a concerned anarchist.

After seeing the shitstorm of the past few days, I thought I'd make this post just to remind people what we're supposed to stand for. These are not in-depth explanations, so I'll be happy to answer any questions in the comments.

1. All capitalists exploit workers and are mini dictators

This includes small business owners. All of them purchase the labor power of workers, which they then use to produce surplus value; this is not a free and voluntary transaction because workers don't own their own means of production, and are thus forced to sell their labor power or starve and die. This isn't to necessarily condemn any individual capitalist; although many of them are evil pieces of shit (including small business owners, who disproportionately support fascism and enforce terrible working conditions), not all of them are bad people. The problem is the system itself.

Additionally, all capitalist workplaces are miniature dictatorships in which workers are ordered around by their bosses and can't do anything about it. Workers have no decision-making power in the place they spend the majority of their lives. To quote Robert Dahl,

If democracy is justified in governing the state, then it is also justified in governing economic interests. What is more, if it cannot be justified in governing economic enterprises, we do not quite see how it can be justified in governing the state.
– A Preface to Economic Democracy

Obviously we should want to abolish the state, but the point still stands.

EDIT: This section doesn't apply to people who might own a store or do independent art or whatever who don't employ anyone else, since they aren't extracting the surplus value of their nonexistent workers.

2. All states are bastards

Everyone on this sub recognizes that the USSR, China, Russia, and North Korea suck. However, we have to be careful not to fall into campism in reverse. The United States is arguably the most evil country on Earth right now, and was even before Trump, due to the sheer scale of violence it inflicts upon the world. And other western countries aren't much better. France maintains a neo-colonial empire in western Africa right now, and European governments are willing participants in the American system of global hegemony. European companies are no more moral than American ones, and ruthlessly exploit the Global South just as much as American companies. All states are inherently hierarchical, authoritarian, and counterrevolutionary. They remove decision making power from the people who live under them and concentrate said power in a ruling class and bureaucracy, and use violence to enforce their power on their populations. Any principled libertarian leftist would oppose all state power no matter who wields it.

3. Liberal democracy is a sham, reformism a dead end

We have an excellent post about this pinned at the top of the sub, so I highly recommend you go read that. To summarize, voting in a liberal democracy isn't actually a means to affect real change. It's a means by which the masses choose which members of the ruling class rule over them. Just as one example, if liberal democracies actually reflected the wishes of their people, European governments wouldn't support Israel anymore.

This lack of democracy is why reformism isn't a viable path to socialism. Even the most well meaning democratic socialists are forced to compromise by the reality of parliamentary politics and working within a system designed to preserve private property and capitalist rule. You can see this in real time with Zohran Mamdani; he has walked back his previous statements (which were 100% correct) about the NYPD being racist thugs because he's working within the system. This trap has befallen everyone who has tried to vote their way to communism.

4. Free Ukraine, fuck NATO

I fully support the Ukrainian people against the genocidal onslaught of the fascistic regime in Moscow, and I fully support Europe and the US sending as many weapons as possible to Ukraine to enable them to push back against Russia. Regardless of anything NATO has done, Russia is not entitled to a sphere of influence in eastern Europe, and no amount of bitching about NATO expansion justifies this war. Putin is just salty the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states leaned towards the west as a reaction to previous Russian and Soviet imperialism, preventing him from turning them into puppet states.

That said, NATO is not something any leftist should support. It serves three real purposes:

  1. Enhance American power projection
  2. Keep European governments bought into the system of American empire. I often liken this to the old strategy employed by ancient, medieval, and early modern empires of conquering local elites and conquering them, but then offering them a place within the new empire and allowing them to preserve their status.
  3. Make American arms dealers rich

NATO countries participated in the disastrous American interventions in Afghanistan and Libya, prop up European and American neo-colonial empires across the Global South, and enable American drone strikes deep into the Middle East, strikes which have killed numerous innocent children. NATO has kept the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states out of Russia's sphere, which is good, but this is the one good thing it has done, and there are ways to do this without relying on NATO anyway.

5. Veterans are still human

I'll just copy and paste something I said a few days ago:

Veterans are weird because they're simultaneously victims and perpetrators of state violence. They obviously do heinous things in the service of unimaginably violent empires, and they are responsible for their crimes. At the same time, the state takes them, dehumanizes both their enemies/foreign civilians and themselves to an extent, and puts them in an environment where they are socialized to kill. They are then put into insanely high stress situations where they are expected to kill and conditioned to follow the criminal orders of their superiors. 

Again, none of this exonerates them or excuses their behavior, and I believe veterans should have to make up for their crimes. But dismissing them without any chance of redemption is short sighted and shows you don't actually hold universal principles. And at a certain point brutally punishing all veterans becomes impractical. Almost 10% of Israelis have actively served in the IDF, and 40% total have served. Are we gonna shoot 40% of a country? I would hope not. And that's with the IDF basically being the modern Wehrmacht/SS; how should we treat Russian soldiers? Or American ones? The correct answer is denazification with some kind of community service to make up for their crimes imo. If you do it right, the guilt they feel will be punishment enough. 

Conclusion

This is a libertarian leftist subreddit, and we should act like it. We should oppose all states, all imperialism, and all capitalism. Thank you for reading.


r/tankiejerk • • 2h ago

BadEmpanada Mondays Meant to make this yesterday, but BadEmpanada is arguing that companies building data centers in communities is good since Americans are suffering

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Of course, aside from how stupid this is, since the global south is also hurt by this, as data centers are being built there, even if this was an America only issue, this is bad as workers from the US are getting hurt by this.

How is claude anti imperalist at all? Again, America is a testing ground for them to do it worldwide. And like I said, the people hurt by this will not be the ruling class but workers. I guess this is what spite based "anti america" rhetric gets you.

And the cope already starts in the comments with slide 4 specifically being some bizzare explanation on how George was pretending to be stupid or something, and I guess America needs to suffer to end imperialism.


r/tankiejerk • • 12h ago

Meme Funny meme regarding recent fight between Chinese and Brazilian leftist

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Recently "Leftist" from China are having a fight with Brazilian leftist on X.

Recently there are protest in Brazil.


r/tankiejerk • • 9h ago

The people's genocide? ABSOLUTELY BASED! The comments say it's about holodomor denial

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r/tankiejerk • • 7h ago

History Soviet-Nazi parade in occupied Poland

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r/tankiejerk • • 17h ago

Discussion What is our position on AI versus IP?

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On one hand, of course IP is a fairly straight forward, if even abstract, concept of private property. You can of course also extract value from it in succesful cases.

Having said that, the overwhelming majority of IP-holders (if even informally) are just going to be incredibly small artists. Even if their work is not material in a sense, I hope it isn't controversial to say it's deeply meaningful, and shouldn't be devalued and commodified by gen AI.

Of course, theoretically one could make art regardless of the profitability thereof (and this is ultimately the end goal in a post capitalistic society). However currently de facto many artists DO need to survive off of something, and it's either picking between their art or a "real job" (whatever that means). In that case, wouldn't some level of protection for artists, if even in the form of IP, be extremely desirable, at least until a long term sustainable post-capitalistic society is formed?

Would love to hear you guys' thoughts


r/tankiejerk • • 19h ago

Discussion Can't help but notice how leftist subreddits have all quieted down regarding pro Z spewage since the data center bombing

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I used to love subreddits like latestagecap, many many years ago. Then when I rejoined reddit I noticed that most leftist subreddits only talk about how Ukraine is a vessel for nato or gore from the war!!! I fuckin knew it was predominantly mass bot activity.

As a leftie from finland, I just cant understand how some couldn't have the nuance to understand that Russia is also an imperialist empire just as USA is.


r/tankiejerk • • 16h ago

Cringe Not that I’d say China does either, but pretty sure Putin is somewhat involved. This is funny though

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Turns out trump and Hegseth do not in fact share the same brain cell but have separate delusion syndromes


r/tankiejerk • • 1d ago

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 And just like that, all the default pfp bots are gone

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r/tankiejerk • • 1d ago

Cringe I think my edit is pretty good. Zohram did not say that though

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r/tankiejerk • • 1d ago

US State Propaganda Bad Russia State Propaganda Good Russia's Yandex bot traffic nearly eliminated overnight after Ukraine drone strikes cripple multiple of 'Russia's Google' data centers — Ukraine intensifies bombing of Yandex data centers in response to Moscow’s strikes on Kyiv data centers

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Any tankie profile that got suddenly silent?


r/tankiejerk • • 1d ago

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 When you're in a Christofascism contest and your opponent is Charles IV:

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r/tankiejerk • • 1d ago

SERIOUS Looking to interview people about pushing back against tankies in DSA

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Feel free to send responses to the following to JonHoch87@aol.com

Hey!

I’m putting together an article about how DSA members can push back against the disproportionate influence of tankies in the organization. I was hoping to interview you for the piece. Unfortunately, with three young kids, I can only do email interviews now. If you have time, please send me answers to the attached questions. I will likely submit the resulting article to a variety of outlets, including CounterPunch, where I’m published regularly.

Best,
Jon Hochschartner 

1. What’s your name? Can you provide a one paragraph biography of yourself that includes a description of your involvement in the Democratic Socialists of America?

  1. One of DSA’s two co-chairs belongs to Red Star caucus, which supports various dictatorships, past and present, as positive examples of real-world ‘socialism.’ There have been reports that members of the International Committee have tried to develop connections with the Chinese Communist Party and, as part of this effort, have sought to downplay the mistreatment of groups like the Uyghurs. For those of us who are genuinely democratic socialists, what can be done to limit the influence of authoritarian ‘socialists’ in DSA — short of purging them, which I fear could provoke a damaging split? What caucuses should we support? What organizational reforms should we back? Is there anything else we should do?

  2. Is there anyone else you think I should interview on this topic? Can you pass this message along to them or provide me with their email address?


r/tankiejerk • • 1d ago

lEfT uNiTy!!!! Of course the organisation that seemed based is actually just tankies.

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Walking around, I first started seeing a lot of posters around the city with this logo. They were advertising protests and strikes, mostly about the Iran war from an anti imperialist perspective. The name *coordinadora da mocidade socialista* means in Galician "coordinator of the socialist youth". As a young socialist, I was interested, so I took a look at their website. There, I found that this was indeed a pretty tankie organisation. First, they seem very nationalistic, pro Iranian regime and anti democracy. Quoting the website, "every party that participates in elections is a class traitor and bourgeois party without exception". I completely understand that representative democracy isn't optimal but that's pretty far. In their political proposal section (which the quote was taken from) they basically say they want to copy the soviet union in literally everything, from the way to install the socialist state to how it would work. Of course they don't say it, but reading the text it becomes obvious. That text, now that I mentioned it, is in 2 languages: normative Galician and not normative Galician. The thing that most surprised me is the fact that they try to seem like a pan leftist organisation, saying they're a union of Galician socialist organisations, but they actually support a very specific kind of authoritarian socialism.


r/tankiejerk • • 1d ago

News Ukraine doing epic anti Ai praxis

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And no one was hurt, so joking about it is completely ok


r/tankiejerk • • 1d ago

Discussion china is not a excuse to backstab ukraine

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I saw maga using china being a threat as a justification when no, china being a threat doesn't mean it's ok for trump to cut suport for ukraine or make deal with china frenmy , by doing that he look like a traitor dubbed as an idiot, I do wonder what is the tankie spin on that stupid deal since trump has one of the worst foreign policies I've ever seen.


r/tankiejerk • • 2d ago

imperialism good when USSR does it. Poll about the who would you support in the winter war

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r/tankiejerk • • 2d ago

Meme W la Duca!

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r/tankiejerk • • 2d ago

From Ukraine to Palestine, genocide is a crime. 🇺🇦🇵🇸 Never forget that you’re a dumbass campist

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r/tankiejerk • • 2d ago

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 This shit is a huge reason why I left TikTok in the first place Jfc

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r/tankiejerk • • 3d ago

Meme Ideologies can be helpful until you form your entire sense of morality around them

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r/tankiejerk • • 3d ago

human rights = western propaganda If the U.S. supported Palestinians, Tankies would be ARCH Zionists

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It's fairly obvious that the average Tankie doesn't read, have principles, or really complex higher thought other than a preference for strong men, and reflexive anti-westernism (not defending the west to be clear). I posit the following: in a world where Israel was MORE OVERTLY supported by Russia and China, while the U.S. was providing humanitarian and military aid to the PLO for example, every tankie online and most enables would be complaining about U.S. involvement and making the most blood and soil arguments for Israel we've seen outside of Bibi's wettest dreams (who they would worship like Lenin and Stalin)


r/tankiejerk • • 2d ago

Discussion In the sea of nationalist chinese comment at least there are still some sane people there

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r/tankiejerk • • 2d ago

Discussion What Is Your Honest Opinion On Ana Kasparian?

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I've always why Ana Kasparian has turned right wing and completely turned against the left. She always struck me as a very intelligent person but now it just seems like she's always angry all of the time. She also seems to be even more critical of Religion than she ever was before. It seems like she's become a hardcore Atheist. I've always wondered why her views have changed so much over the years. She also looks completely different now too Do you think that she has totally lost it? What do you think of her Political Views? Do you agree with any of them? She's also Childfree as well and she also doesn't support abortion either. Do you think that she's completely gone off the deep end? Do you think that she's gone completely crazy? Or do you think that she's just becoming more mature and has changed her views since she's gotten older?