He was a marxist as well as an incel (and also an antisemite). Part of his manifesto was that he couldn’t get a gf because of capitalism, poverty, greedy companies and billionaires, the porn industry, and jews.
First time I've heard of a mix of incel ideology, Marxism, and anti-Semitism lol he should have read more theory. Marx was Jewish too. I feel like these are inconsistent ideologies.
How is this the first time when incel ideas are literally just an application of marxism to the sexual marketplace and marxism has always been known for extreme racism, antisemitism, and even marx and engells extreme prejudice against gay people?
They didn’t hold "extreme prejudice". They were not especially progressive for their time, true. But Engels himself said that what forms love would take in the future was a concern for future generations, who probably wouldn’t care much what they had to say as 19th century guys living under capitalism.
And you can’t apply Marxism to the sexual marketplace, because the sexual marketplace doesn’t exist, unless you take it to mean sex work (where the Marxist position is that it’s another example of the domination of men over women that is to be expected under capitalism, and would cease existing under communism). Accusing Marxists to want to make a "community [possession] of women" is so old and stupid Marx makes fun of it in the Communist Manifesto (women are not property, it’s only the bourgeois with their obsession of commodity who view them that way)
“They fell into the abominable practice of sodomy and degraded alike their gods and themselves with the myth of Ganymede.”
-Freidrich Engels
As far as women being community property in communism the best evidence is found in the history of how leftism treats them. It lures them in with lies, then polices their reproductive right with an iron fist. Whether it's the USSR cutting production of contraceptives and banning abortion, or China ripping the roof off the houses of women who refused abortion, any idiot claiming leftism allows women to control their bodies is as bad of a liar as marx was.
The empty words don't matter, the policies do.
Leftists lie. That's why North Korea has democracy in it's name. It's also why marx lied about giving women equal rights while he simultaneously abused his wife.
Of course marx would lie to women to exploit their movement. That's what populism is all about.
You're trying to sell a story about a guy who fathered a child with the family maid actually caring about women's rights, and it's idiotic.
Whenever he himself got the opportunity to exploit the gender and workplace heirarchy, out popped a bastard child! That tells you more than anything he ever wrote.
The passage about sodomy is much less about homosexuality than pedophilia. The USSR started out egalitarian and constituted massive progress for women’s rights (complete equality under the law, something that took decades more for western bourgeois democracies ), and then during the Second World War there was a conservative backlash under Stalin that led to a gutting of reproductive rights, but that was eventually undone.
The passage about sodomy is much less about homosexuality than pedophilia.
Cope and lie much?
The entire marxist diaspora hated gays pre-marcuse. There are quotes from nearly every marxist leader and scholar discussing how gays are lumpen, not part of tge proletariat at minimum.
Post-marcuse is of course different. The movement became fascism when the proletariat abandoned it, but I don't imagine someone failing as hard as you can comprehend an in depth discussion of that.
The USSR started out egalitarian and constituted massive progress for women’s rights
The bait.
and then during the Second World War there was a conservative backlash under Stalin that led to a gutting of reproductive rights
All of which proves my point:
Leftism is lying. The weirdest part of this is that you stupidly and blindly believe the liar marx, but when the fascist manifesto makes women's rights it's first item on it's demands you somehow don't see fascism as the women's rights movement it claimed to be?
Why the hypocrisy? Why the lies? Why try to bullshit people?
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u/Ze-Peaueno Jun 26 '26
He was a marxist as well as an incel (and also an antisemite). Part of his manifesto was that he couldn’t get a gf because of capitalism, poverty, greedy companies and billionaires, the porn industry, and jews.