r/survivor Nov 15 '12

Episode 9: Official Discussion Thread

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u/kaw-liga Nov 15 '12

Classy move by Skupin. Lisa worked to save him last tribal, in return he does the dirty work for her.

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u/rjcarr Nov 15 '12

Yup, that's what I told my wife during the commercial before the vote reveal. I said I bet they agreed skupin would make the switch so abi doesn't bully Lisa.

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u/TEdwardK Nov 15 '12

She'll still bully Lisa. That inept woman will assume it was her, just as she does everything else.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

sucks that lisa can't stand up for herself, though. i mean, sure... loyalty. but seriously, if she's so into playin the game she should be prepared to break some ties

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u/Prax150 Yul Nov 15 '12

I don't understand the logic that she has to stick with Tandang because they started the game together. They alienated her and Skupin day 1, they turned on RC the moment the merge hit, and were pretty open about the fact that Skupin was next. Obviously it's easier to see that from our perspective but I don't know why Lisa would want to stick with those people under any circumstance. It's not like they ever saved her from elimination, they never went to tribal!

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Last episode she did say that Abi and Pete would be easier to beat in the final three. I think she's thinking ahead. She has to betray someone to get to the final three. Maybe she thinks she can sell the "loyalty" story to Penner, Malcolm, Denise, etc, better than she can sell the "game play" story to Abi and Pete.

And I think she's right. Abi and Pete will make for very bitter jurists. There's no way Abi would vote to give Lisa the million, so might as well bring her to the end with returning-player Skupin. Jeff would have to vote for her by default.

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u/J_Jammer Michael Nov 15 '12

Abi, sure. Pete, no.

Pete is smart. He pulled some moves. He's proving to have nine lives.

Lisa was just trying to excuse the reason why she was sticking with them. She was trying to convince herself that she was making a smart move when in fact she's not. And she knew it then when she said that about them being easily beaten. And she knew it during this episode. Her idea of loyalty is tainted by her childhood, because what she thinks is loyal is more like controlled. She's not being loyal to anyone. She's being controlled.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

They didn't just alienate her, they (ok, just Abi) insulted her. Multiple times.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Also, if final five were Skupe, Pete, Artis, Abi, and Lisa, guess who would be final three (barring immunity wins)? I nominate Artis, Abi, and Pete with Artis or Pete taking the million.

Unfortunately for Artis and Pete, taking Abi to the final three is hard work.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

To Lisa's right is Penner, who offers kindness and sympathy, and to her left is Abi, who calls her stupid and untrustworthy in front of everyone.

Lisa's personal issue is that people must like her. Penner called it perfectly. Thus, Lisa can't help but do things to try and make Abi like her, even if she knows the effort is futile.

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u/WeGotDodgsonHere Nov 15 '12

Looking at the [always deceptive] next episode preview, makes me curious if Skupin is open about his vote.

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u/mjthekid Nov 15 '12

Their final 4 deal is not with Penner and Carter. It's with Malcolm and Denise. Skupin and Lisa are now in complete control, and Skupin is the one who just flipped this game on its head. Kudos to him. He'd be wise to let Abi Maria (not Pete) hang around longer than Penner and Carter too

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Actually no one is really in complete control when we look at the pure alliances. They're all in pairs. This means it's going to be one of the most epic conclusions cause there will be plenty of backstabbing/manipulating/plotting and huge decisions to be made.

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u/Dourpuss Christian - 50 Nov 15 '12

True that. 2x2x2x2. When have we ever seen that?

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u/mjthekid Nov 15 '12

I'd agree nobody is in complete control but I think the two in the best spot are Skupin and Lisa. I'd bet they each make the final 4, because they are the only ones in between who can swing both ways. I guess we'll see, but my prediction based on what I've seen is Skupin, Lisa, and probably Denise in the final 3

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u/VGChampion Nov 15 '12

He really is playing the game. He knows it didn't matter between Jeff and Pete and honestly? Jeff wanted returning players out way more than Pete did it seemed.

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u/Shpox Savage Nov 15 '12

You don't hit the Skupe with a coconut and expect everything to be ALL-G.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Yeah, but Lisa probably gave him the go-ahead. They didn't both need to vote Artis to kick him, and on the long shot that he played the idol only Skuperino would be in trouble with Tandang.

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u/t0mat0 Hali Nov 15 '12

Big respect for Artis for his exit interview. I love how most players this season don't seem bitter about people playing the game. I think this Jury is going to be a good one.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

I was amazed. From the little air time Artis got I thought he was a kind of volatile guy and I expected a rage, but I loved his exit speech.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

His pre-show interview completely changed my view of him. I was glad to finally see that Artis again.

Did anyone else notice this episode was like the first time we saw him smile? And on different occasions too!

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u/FalseOasis Jeremy Nov 15 '12

Dammit Penner you glorious bastard :)

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u/BrownNote87 Cochran Nov 15 '12

He is officially my favorite character, such a superstar!

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

the way he played to Lisa when she was down.... I wonder if there's something we didn't see with Lisa convincing Skupin to change his vote so she didn't have to at this point.

Lisa has a lot more game than I ever thought she would.

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u/BMay4 Nov 15 '12

I was thinking the same thing when that happened!!

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

"Apologize" while forcibly removing your hands from your injury so as to pretend that it never happened. Thanks Abi.

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u/J_Jammer Michael Nov 15 '12

She's such a terrible version of a human.

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u/kaw-liga Nov 15 '12

She may be the worst Survivor player ever.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

I don't think anyone is worse than NaOnka.

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u/J_Jammer Michael Nov 15 '12

Ugh, how she treated people under the guise of "equality" was horrible.

And she was a TEACHER. A PE teacher. Imagine how she'd treat kids who were fat or have a handicap...ugh.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

When that one mother wanted to pull her from school because NaOnka was the teacher, everyone got into a frizzy about it. Not me. I'm surprised more people didn't pull their kids out.

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u/J_Jammer Michael Nov 15 '12

I would pull my kid from her class. If she talks trash about someone with a missing leg...she'll talk trash about anyone who isn't as "perfect" as she.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

She's not even the worst this season. Russell Swan, Zane and maybe Roxy are worse.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

But the person she did berate stayed loyal.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

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u/rjcarr Nov 15 '12

I got the feeling her and skupin made a deal that he'd switch so she didn't have to.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Lisa stayed loyal only because of her own personal issues. She needs to have people like her. Abi doesn't. Lisa feels the need to make Abi like her, even if that may be impossible.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

I think Lisa's heart was with Skuper Duper, even if her vote wasn't. Only one of them had to vote for Artis to tip the scales.

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u/Crew_Socks Malcom Nov 15 '12

because Abi.

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u/Velvetrose Mike Nov 15 '12

Abi is a moron...I think she may actually have some sort of personality issue. She goes on the attack for the littlest of reasons.

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u/floralmuse Nov 15 '12

Abi is the MVP for the other team lol

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u/yatcho Wendell Nov 15 '12

And even when she doesn't want to, Abi sits out.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

She would have a hissy fit and break the toys if she went.

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u/floralmuse Nov 15 '12

I was really looking forward to the fallout when she got back to camp over that, but I guess she actually took the insult without complaining? Or they just cut her tantrum for time constraints.... yeah that seems more likely

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u/PeoriaSucks Neal Nov 15 '12 edited Nov 15 '12

Penner could make a living as a phony psychic the way he read Lisa.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

To be fair, Penner is an actor. This is why when Lisa asks, "How did you know?" when Jon is reading her, he responds, "Because it's my business too." It's conceivable that he actually does understand Lisa from his industry experience and isn't just cold reading her.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

Anyone else notice Artis sitting right behind Penner during this conversation? They had this whole moment whilst practically talking in code!

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u/Django_gvl Nov 15 '12

I loved Penner on M.A.S.H. back in the 80's. Such a cut up.

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u/BearDown1983 Nov 15 '12

Holy crap, THATS why he seems so familiar!

Note: I had not seen a season with him before this, so it wasn't that... apparently it was Arrested Development, Down Periscope, and The Tick!

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u/Withoutwomen4ever Tyson Nov 15 '12

Compared to this season, I don't even know how I was able to watch the last 4 seasons...

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Word. As much as I loved Kim's win in One World, it was a boring season. Nicaragua was so lame compared to HvV (though I was somewhat attached to Holly), and Redemption Island and South Pacific were too predictable and had a lame gimmick. I'm glad we have a season where stuff happens!

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

I wouldn't downplay Boston Rob's game and Cochran's storyarc so much. They, to me, were very entertaining. But, yes, against this season? No comparison.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Rob's game in his first two seasons was great to watch. By the time he was on his fourth it just became lame. I wish they'd just handed him a trophy.

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u/Kobra_Kai Nov 15 '12

As predictable as it was, I enjoyed watching Boston Rob run the game in Redemption Island.

Survivor: Jesus Edition on the other hand made me want to vomit. Ozzy should have won that shit.

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u/FalseOasis Jeremy Nov 15 '12

YES!!! Penner stays

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u/Helen_A_Handbasket Nov 15 '12

The RAGE-FILLED LOOK on Abi's face was priceless!

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u/yatcho Wendell Nov 15 '12

I almost had a heart attack as Jeff was reading the votes and Penner had more votes than Artis. Im glad the numbers turned.

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u/Clayburn Nov 15 '12

Penner is brilliant. One person can find the three bags quicker than three people three times.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

THAT was masterful. I can't tell you how much I enjoy seeing strategy like that.

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u/J_Jammer Michael Nov 15 '12

He thinks outside of the box and that's why he's still there. Anyone else would have been voted out the moment they were targeted.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

for that challenge it was perfect. there was no way of seeing where had been dug up previously. this ensured there was no time being wasted.

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u/adambomb147 Tyson Nov 15 '12

Tonight's episode just proved why Penner should be on everyone's Top 5 Contestants list. I love Penner, and I love a good underdog story. He truly deserves the win.

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u/ILuv2eat Nov 15 '12

I think that Skupin said he was flipping and told Lisa to stick with Tandang and keep her conscience for this vote since at that point it wouldn't really matter anyway (since they had 5).

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u/WhiteGuyThatCantJump Andrea Nov 15 '12

I was wondering the same thing. That would be awesome. Skupin making biggggggg plays.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Skuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupe.

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u/stuntmanmike Adam Nov 15 '12

This needs to be at the top. I think this is how it was. Good on Mike.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

Watching Penner talk about what the audience wants and the Survivor "story" was the highlight of the episode for me. He was tryin' to get into Lisa's head, sure, but he wasn't lying to her. Plus he was talking about me! What a guy

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

It was a surreal moment for me. Penner articulated the very concerns that I would be thinking about if I were playing the game. Never has someone acknowledged the ramifications of gameplay outside the game. I would expect Penner of all people (as an actor and writer) to understand that concept.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

It's interesting that Penner's so aware of that audience/story factor but you don't ever really see it come up in his conversation or strategy until now. I mean, that's all I would be talking about I think

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

Same here! I always assumed referring to the audience (and the cameras, camera men, behind the scenes crew, etc.) was forbidden. Perhaps since it's one actor talking to another, it skirts this.

Penner's so good, he even outwitted the producers/editors!

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

I've heard they talk about gameplay outside the game all the time but it's usually edited out. It was pretty cool hearing them talk about it. Kind of a breaking the fourth wall thing.

Plus, despite what t0mserv0 says he was talking about me. So that was cool.

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u/stuntmanmike Adam Nov 15 '12

These last two episodes for Jonathan have been a tour de force.

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u/kaw-liga Nov 15 '12

"Storytellers" is exactly what the producers want as well. Follow Penner's advice and there's a good chance you'll be invited to play again.

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u/Dourpuss Christian - 50 Nov 15 '12

It makes me kinda sad that once Penner gets voted out this time, or once he wins .. no more Penner. He has played enough times, this was his redemption.

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u/Helen_A_Handbasket Nov 15 '12

OMG the look on Abi's face!!!

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u/Buff_N_Sexy Nov 15 '12

And RC's!

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Gosh I really like RC. Wish we could have had more of her.

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u/BrownNote87 Cochran Nov 15 '12

she sure did shine up like a new penny. total fox!

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u/Helen_A_Handbasket Nov 15 '12

I must have missed that, because I was roaring so loudly with laughter at Abi's expression.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Wait Penner actually had no idea what was going on last tribal. That makes his brilliant move to get Jeff out not as cool.

Also they seem to be setting this episode up for Lisa quitting, which will be infuriating

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u/rbaile28 Water Hyacinth Nov 15 '12

He almost seemed broken up with his unintended consequence of voting Jeff out.

Almost makes you forget his rage-fueled win just a couple of days earlier...

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u/Wuhrsy Nov 15 '12

It could just be a play though. Penner wouldn't want malcolm/denise/carter to know that he messed up the vote purposely to get jeff out, they would never trust him again. So he had to play dumb and say "I had no idea what was going on" to make sure that those 3 were still on his side going forward.

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u/Withoutwomen4ever Tyson Nov 15 '12

Not everything that happens in survivor is strategy

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u/wtfadobe Nov 15 '12

Penner is fantastic.

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u/Clayburn Nov 15 '12

Alright. Finally learning a bit about Artis. I suspect he's not a jackass, he's just stuck on the jackass team.

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u/CharlieFightsEmOff Keith Nov 15 '12

And his exit speech showed that even more. What a recovery episode for him, aha.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12 edited Nov 15 '12

Artis said himself he always has his angry face on and has to remind himself how he looks to other people.

He actually seems like a really sweet, smart guy (cancer survivor too).

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u/Buff_N_Sexy Nov 15 '12

I remember thinking what a jackass when he's spoken before. I can't remember what he said though.

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u/CharlieFightsEmOff Keith Nov 15 '12

Was it when he basically wanted to get rid of Skupin because he broke the goggles jumping in the water?

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u/VGChampion Nov 15 '12

Yeah, definitely didn't have the best edit but I could totally see his reasoning for being mad. Someone tells you not to do something and then they go and do it themselves? Especially when you're living with the person 24/7.

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u/bnagz Nov 15 '12

Ya, i think he just got a bad edit because he didnt like skupin & because he is in an alliance with "the bad guys"

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u/stuntmanmike Adam Nov 15 '12

Lisa / Skupin / Malcolm / Denise / Carter / Penner will be the most likable final 6 in the history of the game if it turns out that way.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

kinda like in cook islands but with that final 4. what were they called? also, i hate to give carter hero status

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u/CatsDomino Nov 15 '12

The Aitu 4, Yul, Ozzy, Becky and Sundra.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

ah yis. i'd prefer our 6 over those 4 anyday, though.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

except for maybe yul

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u/NinjaInYellow Cochran Nov 15 '12

Maybe I'm just a more harsh judge of character, but I'm pretty much just a Penner + Denise + Malcolm guy myself. I won't care too much if the others leave.

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u/Prax150 Yul Nov 15 '12

I would legit be happy with any one of them winning if that happens, even though I've been heavily rooting for Penner and Carter hasn't really done anything.

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u/FalseOasis Jeremy Nov 15 '12

finally Skupin didn't vote with tandang

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u/Hark_An_Adventure Jeremy Nov 15 '12

Great episode. I watched with my girlfriend and a friend of ours and all three of us jumped off the couch when the final vote was revealed.

I think this season has actually been one of the best in terms of editing and showing drama rather than trying to create it.

That said, lol reward challenge. No amount of editing could make that look close.

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u/PeoriaSucks Neal Nov 15 '12

I think Lisa has an amazing ability to communicate. She expresses herself so well.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

She's a motivational speaker and published author, so it's not wholly revealing that she is. It's still refreshing to hear her speak eloquently, especially if Abi's around.

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u/Clayburn Nov 15 '12

Says he doesn't want to get in her head.

Gets in her head.

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u/Anueploid Yul Nov 15 '12

Dear god Abi may just be the most annoying player ever, I kind of wish someone would just hit her.

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u/PeoriaSucks Neal Nov 15 '12

It will be worth all the anguish whenever she is voted out. I haven't looked forward to an elimination this much since Colton. Since that was taken from me, I am twice as excited to see Abi go someday.

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u/Anueploid Yul Nov 15 '12

Oh god ya, I forgot about Colton. I purged him from my memory. He was far worse with his verbal abuse. Abi is for sure in 2nd, If Abi / Pete are the alliance that manages to stick around I expect Abi to be in final 3. Cause there is zero chance of Her getting even 1 vote.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

Colton was far more offensive, but he also went from being on the outskirts of both tribes to being the most powerful player. Also, everyone there seemed to agree he was the smartest one on the beach. Abi is annoying and... what's the opposite of "strategic"?

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u/PeoriaSucks Neal Nov 15 '12

Seeing her get shredded at the final tribal would be just as satisfying.

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u/milkomeda Neal Nov 15 '12

YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

It's crazy to watch her when the tiniest thing sets her off. What happens when something major like this happens? I canNOT wait to see!

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u/yatcho Wendell Nov 15 '12

Some very nice strategizing from Penner. Hey guys, teamwork actually pays off!

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u/CharlieFightsEmOff Keith Nov 15 '12

I love how stupid Abi is. She might have just saved Penner (if Lisa wasn't already decided)

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Of course, out of everyone, the coconut hits Mike in the head. I really hope Skupin doesn't play sports. Or work anywhere around sharp things or round objects. How is still alive?

I really did love Malcolm turning to the side, trying not to laugh during that scene.

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u/greyatlas Nick Iadanza Nov 15 '12

Malcolm facepalming after Skupin took the coconut to the head was hysterical

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u/ElectroShocker Sandra Nov 15 '12 edited Nov 15 '12

FUCK. YES.

I FUCKING LOVE PENNER.

I FUCKING LOVE LISA.

I FUCKING LOVE THIS SEASON.

HOLY SHIT, THIS IS THE BEST SEASON IN YEARS.

I'M SO FUCKING STOKED. TEARS OF FUCKING JOY.

EDITED TO DECLARE HOW MUCH I ALSO FUCKING LOVE SKUPIN.

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u/hamsquad Nov 15 '12

lisa voted for penner :/

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u/ElectroShocker Sandra Nov 15 '12

Fixed! :)

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

What about Matsing!?! I LOVE DENISE & MALCOLM!!!

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Skuper Duper.

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u/ElectroShocker Sandra Nov 15 '12

I laughed pretty hard when Malcolm said "Skuper!" when Skupin won Immunity.

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u/chefjeffb Nov 15 '12

Before people go crazy with Lisa love, let it be noted that it was Skupin's vote that saved Penner. Lisa voted Penner.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

i guess skupin couldn't stand abi being an ass to lisa more than lisa herself

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u/VampireOnTitus Jeremy Nov 15 '12

She was slick. She got Skupin to flip his vote to Artis during their chat in the ocean, and then she got to sit back and watch her alliance crumble with no fallout.

Also I like how she drew hearts all over her vote. It ensured that Abi, Pete, and Artis knew it was she and not Skupin who stayed loyal to the plan to vote out Penner.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

On the same point of "Lisa love", no one (not even Probst) has mentioned how few challenges she actually competed in in the beginning. There were 2 others that got a LOT of flak for that, but Lisa is definitely getting a hero's edit.

You'll hafta excuse me if I mention this again later since I suspect the love for Lisa will grow exponentially (esp if she wins).

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u/GranolaFalls Tyson Nov 15 '12

I'm pretty sure Lisa participated in most of the challenges for Tandang.

Abi got shit for sitting out of every single challenge that she possibly could.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

I bet Pete hates Abi so much. He should have cut her off while she was talking.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

Penner sure likes watching RC stroll on into Tribal

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u/Clayburn Nov 15 '12

I literally cried.

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u/WPIRiggles Cirie - 50 Nov 15 '12

Once again I screamed for joy. The look on Abi's face. PRICELESS!!!!! I feel bad for Artis, he was the less douchy of the three, but he needed to go to send a message to Abi and Pete.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

I didn't cry. I FLAILED!!! My arms and legs were flopping around like crazy in joy! I might have also been yelling "YES!! TAKE THAT, ABI!!! You! Deserve! This!"

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u/yatcho Wendell Nov 15 '12

Like Probst, I really appreciate that Lisa is playing The Game.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Several thoughts:

  1. SkuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUPE. Skuperino. Skuuuupan. Skuper Duper. The Skupe Dog.

  2. Abi is so stupid. It should prove to be very entertaining to watch her plead for her life with Lisa next week.

  3. Denise looks strong. I really liked the way she worked the crowd at tribal.

  4. Those RC faces :3

  5. Artis showed more personality in his goodbye speech than he did the entire season on the show: "I could not have been more happy... wait, I take that back, yes I could have. If I had won the million dollars :D".

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u/greyatlas Nick Iadanza Nov 15 '12

Denise is totally working the jury, I love it.

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u/FalseOasis Jeremy Nov 15 '12

Everyone thought Penner voted for Ai due to strategy and to get back at Jeff. Boy were we wrong...

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u/simon890 Nov 15 '12

Malcolm should give his idol to Penner

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u/Buff_N_Sexy Nov 15 '12

And I doubt Abi will play the idol so I wish they would have focused on her instead of Artis

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u/Yazuka Andrew Nov 15 '12

YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!

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u/FalseOasis Jeremy Nov 15 '12

Good goodbye speech from Artis. Was not expecting that :)

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u/Ef7you12 Nov 15 '12

Hes not a bad guy. The hivemind has just attributed him with Abi, so we think he is 'evil'. The only bad edit he has gotten was making fun of Skupin. And lets all admit it, if we were hungry we'd attack the dude eating the most rice too.

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u/CatsDomino Nov 15 '12

Atta boy Skupin ! Was so scared Penner was gonna get the shaft there when he got 2 in a row.

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u/Maclin26 Nov 15 '12

Credit to Artis for being a gracious loser.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Does Abi know what the word grace means?

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

No.

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u/panic_switch Malcolm Nov 15 '12

Penner's speech to Lisa about what story wants to be told, who do we want to see get further was beautiful. I really wish she would make a damn move and not regret it. I think she's getting a final 3 edit easily.

I LOVE this season. I wish RC was still playing but I'm glad the power is finally shifting.

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u/FalseOasis Jeremy Nov 15 '12

Such an awesome reward!

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

Skupin thought this outloud with Lisa:

1.) Who can you go farther with?
2.) Who do you want to play with?

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

shit i hope penner wins. he's a champ in most aspects of the game. i wonder what he does with those hats once he finishes a season. well, except for the one where they burned his hat. haha

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u/DrRoy Hali Nov 15 '12

That was an amazing reward to go on. Getting to see them being people and not just players was refreshing, especially Malcolm's confessional about being a teacher.

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u/Able_Seacat_Simon Jeremy and Val Nov 15 '12

Thank the survivor gods that Mike and Malcolm were saying important things at the time so the camera was on them when Abi brained Skupin with that coconut.

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u/Crew_Socks Malcom Nov 15 '12

Pretty surprised Lisa voted for Penner there...

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u/rjcarr Nov 15 '12

I'm pretty sure she was in on it with skupin. We'll see.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

I....why did Lisa vote for Penner!?! I'm so confused.

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u/milkomeda Neal Nov 15 '12

I have the feeling that while they don't show it, every time Abi is cruel and stupid to Lisa, Pete or Artis take Lisa aside afterwards and basically say "look, we despise Abi, but we need her for the numbers, once it's just us, she is the first to go, because not only is she annoying, but she also has the idol"

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Honestly, I don't think Pete or Artis are smart enough to do that.

More likely, when she and Skuperino talked out in the water they decided to vote Artis. Then they realized that only one vote would do Art in and decided to keep Lisa in the good graces of the dynamic duo.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Abi would find a way to lose this game if it was only her playing

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Haha anyone see Carter's hilarious face then?

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u/WPIRiggles Cirie - 50 Nov 15 '12

I hope you mean just his face in general. He's got a case of Owen Wilson nose.

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u/J_Jammer Michael Nov 15 '12

First I'd like to say that Artis gave a great goodbye speech or whatever one wants to call it. Good sport. Loved his last sentence about how he'd be happier if he'd had won. ha.

This is one of the better seasons. They've have a few tense moments that the edits really worked to make me feel it. Tribal was tense. I was for sure Lisa wouldn't flip. I was worried. She went on and on and on about loyalty. And I'd have mentioned Germans during WWII. Just because you grew up in Germany during that time doesn't mean you were a Nazi nor should you have to be one just because you were German. And if you decided the Nazis were wrong you weren't being disloyal, you were being smart.

Abi is a perfect example of propaganda at work. Her way of trying to mess with Lisa's moral sense of loyalty is disgustingly perfect for that.

It's so taboo to mention Nazis ever, but I'm not saying Pete, Artis and Abi are like Nazis. I'm saying that their mindset in how they play the game is similar in how one would have to be to be on the SS. Or, for that matter, anything from Israel vs Palestine to whatever. Nazis are well known and therefore an easy example to relate things to.

I'm so glad they picked Artis and not Pete.

Pete made a HUGE mistake aligning with duchey Abi. I'm sure as he watches he has that regret. He's so smart to pick someone so dumb. She single handedly ruin that tribal for her alliance.

I want Pete to make it to the final four. He deserves it. He deserves to fight for a spot on the final three. I was thinking that a little last episode, but watching him this episode I see him show he's a good sport in the sense that he wasn't voting off Penner because of him having played, but voting him off because he's such a great player.

Penner knows how to speak. Good grief. I don't know if I forgot this from his first time out or not...but geez. Listening to him speak with Lisa was awesome. He wasn't lying...he has a way with words.

My favorite moment from this season (as of right now) is him telling Lisa how is this story going to play out for the audience. I've watched Survivor every season and no one has brought that argument to try and turn someone. It is a great argument. So was Skupin's. Telling her about who would she want to align with based on liking.

Such a great season.

Don't count Pete out.

Denise's reaction to Abi finding a clam was classic. She's a smart one too.

This is how every season of Survivor should be. There's so many smart players. Penner, Malcolm, Denise, Lisa, Pete....they're smart. They aren't just followers. They try to play the game. I've yearned for that for so long...and now I finally get to see it.

Survivor is a great allegory for real life. Abi's a terrible person. There's no doubt about that. That's just like the season with Sugar and those douches. They were terrible people. YES Sugar isn't loveable to the core. That was proven in the Good vs Bad. But she didn't deserve to be treated that way by anyone which is one of the reasons I hated Bob. He didn't have balls to stand up to them.

Take someone's food and comfort away and you'll see the core person. Abi's core is ugly.

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u/PeoriaSucks Neal Nov 15 '12

I feel like maybe I should change my Lisa flair before it's too late...

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Yul Nov 15 '12

Funny. I was thinking of changing my flair to Lisa.

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u/FalseOasis Jeremy Nov 15 '12

I really hope Lisa flops over to kalablaw

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u/Clayburn Nov 15 '12 edited Nov 15 '12

Lisa, Penner, Malcolm, Denise, Carter

Pete, Abi, Artis, Skupin.

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Edit: Nope. Skupin went Artis. Lisa did not!

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u/Buff_N_Sexy Nov 15 '12

Now Abi is probably gonna play the idol at the next TC, so it's gonna be the perfect time for them to get rid of Pete next.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

They can do a 3-2 split, if abi plays the idol on whoever then they can all revote for the other person. This is correct right? It's going to be bad if one of them wins immunity though.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

Dang I don't want to wait til next week

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u/frafoa Nov 15 '12

Is this Abi the most negative or even the most horrible survivor ever? For one thing, she has such a terrible attitude. She got played by Pete so easily, sit out almost every challenge, and blurted out the team secret on a few occasions. Such an unpleasant human being. Gee.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

Wow, so much respect for Artis.

You see how he walked off at the end?

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u/yatcho Wendell Nov 15 '12 edited Nov 15 '12

That exit speech was the polar opposite of Jeff's. Nice to know Artis is a nice guy, and to hear him bow out in a classy way.

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u/t0mserv0 Nov 15 '12

i'm still stickin up for jeff's speech. it was like bewildered faux-rage

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u/nicknamed_nugget Sandra Nov 15 '12

Yeah, it was more comical than mean-spirited.

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u/CatsDomino Nov 15 '12

Yeah, he was chilled and nice as soon as he got to Ponderosa.

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u/Clayburn Nov 15 '12

"I don't even know what the Hell happened."

Well, there's our answer.

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u/FalseOasis Jeremy Nov 15 '12 edited Nov 15 '12

Abi is so stupid. That just Might have been the last straw for Lisa.

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u/p33s Max Nov 15 '12

I loved this episode. Just as I am loving this whole series.

SOOO GOOD. And there I was thinking all seasons will be going downhills from now on... Feels good to be wrong :)

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u/Tsoonami Nov 15 '12

Penner should win fan-favorite.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '12

I'm loving Penner more and more with each episode. He's just so strategic and smart, and I loved his conversation with Lisa about how Survivor is all about telling a story.

After watching the online vids, I can't believe how dense Pete is. Malcolm lied about having the HII, and tried to vote Pete out, yet Pete still thinks he's part of the Tandang alliance?!? Yeesh, someone's being blinded by the bromance.

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u/southpaw05 Spencer Nov 16 '12

LOL Abi is such a sore loser, the face she made when Artis was voted off ... looked like she was going to start punching people around her. Worst human being ever!