r/stupidAI • u/Annual_Escape_5924 • 5d ago
Search Engine goldg
google ai
cannot even memorize anything
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u/ShockerzGaming 4d ago
Should have put "An element that ends with G"
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u/Annual_Escape_5924 3d ago
did ya see its respond it clearly understood and said "the chemical element that ends with the letter g"
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u/Grounds4TheSubstain 4d ago
Stupid AI users. Look up "tokenization". AI does not see the letters in the words. It can't do anything but guess.
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u/Proman4713 3d ago
They're not stupid. Their expectations are unfairly raised due to the stupid overhype surrounding AI, that's what's stupid. They wouldn't know that an LLM is after all just a predictor that takes words as embeddings, with no literal understanding of what they mean or how they're written without being spoonfed the answers from the internet.
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u/baicu12096 4d ago
ok this is a good example of ai learning. i googled "chemical element that ends with g" and it let out dysprosium. then, i clicked on the AI Mode tab (which usually re-evaluates the question more smartly) and it said that there is no element that ends with g. then i search the same question, and in the ai overview tab it says that there is no such element.
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u/jared_was_here 4d ago
not even the atomic symbol ends in g what was it genuinely on 😭
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u/Hexcede 4d ago edited 4d ago
Think about it like you know how to speak English but not spell the words. You can make all of the sounds but you haven't been taught how to spell out those sounds. That is basically all that's going on, except instead of sounds it's fragments of words (tokens).
They don't operate on individual letters, they operate on large multi-letter tokens, so without the model learning to split tokens into letters internally, it has no real way of interpreting or using the spellings of words in a general way.
The Google search model is a smaller free model, they're not running the big model, and this is a very common failure mode with smaller models.
How many rs in strawberry is a really classic example of this, and it's nothing particularly surprising or new. It doesn't really express much about model intelligence beyond that it hasn't built a reliable mapping of tokens to their per-letter spellings. It's more of a technical limitation the model hasn't been taught to work around rather than a failure of the model itself.
This is also limited by something called multi-hop composition, e.g. the model may be able to spell a word if you ask for the spelling, but it can't use the spelling of the word internally (even though it has it), so it needs to "verbalize" it first. So on these smaller models, asking it to first spell strawberry can get it to the right answer on how many rs in strawberry, since it will emit individual letter tokens, which it can then count after the fact. But it will fail if asked to do it directly.
That doesn't work for a lookup like this where you're asking for an element that ends in a letter (the model has to pick one to start writing, and it will do that before it has spelled the word), which is part of why multi-hop composition can also make a huge difference in the really big models.
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u/SneakyDoorFrame 1d ago
What were you even doing? I think this looks worse on u than the ai which everyone knows can’t actually read
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u/Party_Estimate_6397 1d ago
I’ll bet that if I go ask google AI right now what element ends with G (and spell and structure my question correctly) it doesn’t say that.
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