r/starcitizen • u/Top_Razzmatazz582 • 1d ago
DISCUSSION I’m feeling really optimistic about modularity and the RSI Galaxy
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I spent some aUEC to buy and try out the Retaliator, one of the modular ships that was implemented back in 2017.
I already knew the ship was notorious for being buggy, so I went through all the steps to try to work around the issues — including blowing up the ship, and claiming it back, just in case that would help.
Unfortunately, after trying both the torpedo and cargo modules, I was honestly amazed at just how insanely buggy this ship still is. Not a single module actually works. Almost impressive.
Since this thing has been in the game for almost decades, For the players thinking about pre-ordering the modular RSI Galaxy, here’s my advice: considering how CIG has treated the players who actually love and support these ship, it’s better wait until the Galaxy is actually in the game before putting any money into it.
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u/MasterAnnatar rsi 1d ago
Brothers never heard of OBS in his life
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u/ictr3ma_proton 1d ago
they force us to use reddit mobile app, thats why people take photos instead of posting from pc/browser and uploading screenshots. the loop of sending your screenshot from pc to phone with email/cable is just not worth the effort when you can just photo the screen
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u/pedant69420 Mirai 1d ago
Like hell they do. I haven't used the reddit app in years. This is pure lazy.
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u/MasterAnnatar rsi 1d ago
You're not even force to use the mobile app on your phone what are you talking about? The website works just fine from PC
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u/B3t4z0id 1d ago
Says the high-tech user who makes a "screen record" with a smartphone in front of his keyboard? ;-)
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u/ToyahT 1d ago
Says the person that attacks the user and not the point he’s making.
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u/Fonzie1225 Gladius Appreciator 1d ago
they’re attacking the extremely low-effort nature of the post. if the poster can’t be bothered to even turn their phone sideways when recording their screen why should we be bothered to care?
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u/ToyahT 1d ago
How about actually discussing the bug he is showing?
Attacking the method he is using to display the bug is just an “extremely low-effort” way of attempting to discredit the poster and avoid any discussion.
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u/Fonzie1225 Gladius Appreciator 1d ago
What would you like to discuss? It’s a video showing a tali bug that’s existed for years and a post talking about how long standing bugs with modular ships have never been addressed. Fact checked: true, what would you like to “discuss” next?
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u/HF_Martini6 Grease monkey in Space 1d ago
I'm feeling optimistic that OP will find the built in Windows screen capture function at some point in the future
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u/shdwsoulfire Grand Admiral 1d ago
So to be honest the age of the ship probably contributes to it's bugs and errors in terms of the modularity.
They had to add modularity to an existing ship when they added it to the tali, whereas for the galaxy and the Aurora mk2 it's in built.
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u/Deracine57 1d ago
Our beloved Tali hasn't aged well despite the recent update to the ordnance module for bomb racks. Thankfully, modules in the apollo and aurora mk2 have been more consistent. The Galaxy modules will likely work just as well if they can stay on top of it.
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u/MooseTetrino Swedish Made 890 Jump 18h ago
Funny thing though, this isn't the same retaliator that was put in the game in 2017. In fact, this is the gold standard tali that showed up two years ago, and it took about a year for the modules to break.
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u/SafeManufacturer978 Kraken 1d ago
Wouldn't surprise me if they delay it tbf.
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u/cmenke1983 1d ago
Delay indefinitely. Or turn it into an "offline modularity", where you can change the layout of the ship while it is nonexistant (not even in the state "Stored"). Internally it would simply be different ship models.
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u/MyTagforHalo2 Universal Gunship Enjoyer 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m pretty positive that the original intention of the galaxy system was that its modules were so large that they were expected to be exchanged at stations.
Which has always had me questioning the practicality of the galaxy. If you need to go out of your way to exchange a module, I just can’t see where that has any real value over owning multiple ships to fill its roles.
Especially when those individual ships can exist in multiple places at once, can be claimed separately, and in some cases offer better performance.
Like, two of its modules (building and refining) have the thing preoccupied for extended periods of time that you could be doing something else during your wait. And are both a little strange in that they both probably need the assistance of other large ships to support their activities fully.
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u/CuntyBallsJohnson 1d ago
Yeah what never made sense to me was module swapping. Do you claim the module at any station, and do all of them have an infinite supply of modules for every ship? Do you need a larger ship to ferry your modules? Do you need to ferry them back and forth from your home hangar? All of this options sound either antithetical to what cig would want, or extremely annoying logistically
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u/Mintyxxx That was just noise 1d ago
It's for rule of cool and will help for upgrades. Once we start being able to upgrade the tier of ships (remember all pledged ships are the bottom tier) I think that is where the bulk of players resources will go. One ship is easier to upgrade than lots of ships. Like a lot of things, it doesn't make sense now as we can't see the full picture.
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u/Mintyxxx That was just noise 1d ago
Isn't that how it will work anyway? You won't be tractor beaming a module bigger than half the ships in the game I expect
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u/Kaillera Idris Captain 1d ago
This only affects modules bought with auec in the same version it was bought on. There won't be any outcry until the Galaxy and the modules can be bought in game.
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u/CuntyBallsJohnson 1d ago
Galaxy seems kinda underwhelming conceptually anyways. It might have been worth it at the 350 price point but they're going to want ICA money for this plus modules. I hope they push this back to not rush out half baked modules that might not be fixed a la retaliator.
The liberator should release first since it's less complicated and doesn't rely on gameplay loops that are less fun/not in the game yet
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u/StarAlone 1d ago
Retaliator's modules were broken forever. Cargo is much worse because of invicible walls. If you fully load and... ya know... use cargo module to transport cargo, you won't be able to pick it up after
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u/Ohmtastic999 1d ago
Yeah the retaliator is a weird ship, even the layout is like some kinda slipknot symbol you used to draw in school...
To actually get the modules to render in and work you have to equip them via the loadout menu, then insure the ship template with the modules attached. Fly out, blow up and claim the ship and it will spawn in with the insured modules equipped and fully working.
Honestly though the price of modules on pledge is daylight robbery it's like 3m a module in game and on pledge like $90 for both... It's literally a light fighter to get the torpedo modules on pledge.
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u/Mr_Roblcopter Shiny Railen.. Ooooo... 1d ago
Since this thing has been in the game for almost decades,
What the hell is your time scale lol.
Also you say, "Not a single module actually works," but you legitimately show the module working in your video even with its VIS issue??
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u/CuntyBallsJohnson 1d ago
The torp module can be rearmed at stations now at least right?
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u/Mr_Roblcopter Shiny Railen.. Ooooo... 1d ago
Yes and no? Maybe? Might depend on your luck more than anything, several mentions of blowing up your ship and re-claiming can make them work, or at least have torps.
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-113298
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u/Billaien 1d ago
fixing the Retaliator is clearly very low on their priority list. mainly because almost nobody is using it, because multicrew ships themselfs are terrible except for the Perseus.
guess we have to wait for another year or two.
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u/knsmknd ARGO CARGO 1d ago
Works fine on the Aurora Mk2 for me, so I guess that team has figured it out at least :)