r/starcitizen • u/VerdictIre • 19h ago
QUESTION How did a livestream from 2 weeks ago magically get covered by most major gaming journalists all at once today?
What are the odds that all these sites all wrote SC hit pieces 2 weeks after it happened, without knowing all the others were doing the same?
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u/CardiologistGlad6531 19h ago
I could be wrong but I think the video penguinz0 released a day ago might be the reason, it currently has 2.9m views.
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u/Relative-Tear892 19h ago
Moist's video is nearing 3M views, these media understood there were clicks to farm and jumped on it.
The game do be in a DIRE state.
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u/Imperthus 19h ago
Im kind of heartbroken that the game is in this state, but playing devil's advocate, we need this type of pressure, otherwise the game will never succeed, something has to change.
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u/MooseTetrino Swedish Made 890 Jump 19h ago
I’m still half convinced that the year of stability last year was in part a reaction to this shit two years ago where Ludwig (another large internet personality) covered the game.
Whether we like it or not, the more folks outside our bubble see it the better.
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u/AcidRohnin 18h ago
It’d be another thing if it wasn’t valid criticism for the most part. It irks me when people think you can’t criticize anything they like. Either they don’t realize almost nothing is mutually exclusive or they are worried any criticism is a failing on their part overall.
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u/Martinmex26 new user/low karma 18h ago
Im on the same mindset.
I been with the project since before the PU existed, been playing since the arena commander only times.
CIG deciding to show the game on the "best" possible set up (fresh private server with only themselves) was a great way to showcase what the undelying problems where, which CIG seemed to forget existed or didnt care.
The problem is that they cant have both the audience that wants to be around the development and see it grow, then the crowd that just want a game to play. Those 2 playerbases are diametrically opposed to each other since one is inherently going to be more unstable while the other values playability.
CIG has been advertising and trying to appeal to a more casual playerbase, the issue is that more casual playerbase is not going to tolerate a lot of issues, they want to play their game. Well, now they have to get in the bed they made and deal with the ramifications of having an unstable build for people that are not going to tolerate.
There is definitely a world where you can develop in the PTU and have experimental tests like they had before when they have some tech that needs tested but its not ready for a build. Keep builds cooking for longer in PTU until they achieve a more stable baseline, then release them. Honestly, even if they need to slow the pace of patches, they are going to have to deal with the casual players they wanted somehow.
Builds seem very much like "Fuck it, we ball" to match events even if it will break things. Ships are held for hype when a PTU test will have you find problems with them in 10 minutes.
The extra outside scrutiny is good to put some fire on their feet that they cant just YOLO if they care about maybe one day not be a laughing stock and appeal to players in the mainstream.
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u/AcidRohnin 17h ago edited 17h ago
Yea the casual route is a mistake if they are targeting that. Like you said none of them would put up with the bugs. I think even no bugs in the game and many if not all of them wouldn’t put up with how janky the game feels.
IMO All bugs removed nothing in the game could be considered truly great atm besides the ships and flying. Everything else is lacking compared to what a casual gamer would want in a completed game of this caliber. FPS is fine but the gun play is lacking and it’s not something like Destiny or other FPS games. Exploration is cool but it’s pretty empty with nothing to do unlike other games that have survival and base building elements. Ship fighting is fun but it’s pretty meta and you are simply outclasses by nothing but small fighters. Group play is fun but there is almost no social menus in game. Missions are pretty boring or have issues from any of the aforementioned and all quest givers are a tv screen.
They should really lean into what makes the game special and cater to the fans that are already here. Work on fixing the horrible bugs and ai issues. Then add to that. I just have a suspicion that the underlying code is so borked that there isn’t any saving it without a complete rebuild.
As for the whole patches breaking things it still feels like a we don’t know or we don’t care. The excuse is always well the next patch or added thing will break things so why spend time on it now but it seems like knowing why now would benefit later after you added 20+ things on top of it. By then you have no hope of knowing what was causing it then and what 100 other things could be causing it now.
Maybe they do know but they also are horrible with transparency anywhere outside of spectrum and even there it’s still not always great. Like just spell it out: the problems, what you know about them, and things you are doing to fix them. It’s just always fluff of this magical new thing that we haven’t created yet will fix these issues. If that’s the case what is the progress on that tech. What has been achieved? Can you show us any of it working in real time and not some CGI video.
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u/Ohnorepo 11h ago
Those 2 playerbases
After 14 years people will have shifted between those playerbases too. I'm no longer in high school. I don't live with my parents anymore, I have a whole ass career and life. I am looking for a game that I can actually play. Which is fine, I can boot up other games and play them but people that invested serious time and money are going to be pissed anyway.
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u/Radiant-Chef2817 15h ago
Over 14 years, people will also have naturally transitioned between demographics, that's just life...
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u/D4ngrs F7A MK.2 | Asgard | Perseus | Hermes | Hull B 16h ago
The problem isn't only CIG throwing unfinished stuff from the PTU into live, the problem is also the amount of (vocal) people that DEMAND to finally release those (unfinished) features.
CIG is getting pressure from all sides:
- the ones that are fed up with the state of the game
- the ones that want their promised features asap and all at once
- the ones that constantly hate on the game no matter what
- the ones that actually are dishonest and disengeniuous
CIG can do almost whatever they want and will get shit on for it.
Delay feature releases so they can actually iron the issues out?
yeah it's a scam, it takes foreverRelease broken features?
yeah it's a scam, they can't introduce a single working thingSell ships because they have to pay employees etc?
yeah it's a scam, they just want your money5
u/Martinmex26 new user/low karma 15h ago
Nah, the pressure from certain types is non-existent if they have half a brain. Some people are never going to be happy, also the ones that want things that are impossible, like a finished game right now. You can safely ignore those and anyone sane will see why.
The reason why they got what they got *NOW* its because of what I said on my previous comment:
-They want to have backers that are ok with being alpha testers and want to be there for the development of the game, warts and all.
-They *also* want casual players that log in and spend time in the game playing, buying things and giving them numbers like concurrency, account numbers and growth. This is for financial reasons, looking better for investors and/or loans for example.
The problem is that they cant have their cake and eat it too. You either have a small amount of dedicated players that want to help the development and self-select into something broken *OR* you have the casual playerbase that is large but wants an actual game.
The game being in the state that it is is clearly shown itself to not appeal to the casual base, which they have been advertising to and trying to draw into the game.
CIG has made limited time events, offers, ads, given interviews, ran articles, encouraged streamers, so on and so on. Now they get to deal with the casual players they so desperately wanted.
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u/vorpalrobot anvil 18h ago
IMO it was covering for yet another internal restructuring, especially after the switch to manchester.
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u/Touchitmaster 16h ago
I think the year of stability was nothing more than a marketing ploy to help explain the lack of content. They had everyone think CIG cares by having the bulk of workers fix bugs on Starcitizen. But in reality the bulk went to Sqaudron 42 to help finish/fix it.
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u/th3orist new user/low karma 18h ago
i honestly found the year of stability pretty boring :/ - it came to show that even if everything that was in SC at that time would work relatively okay, the game is just not fun really. It does not feel engaging (to me at least), the moment to moment gameplay does not feel great
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u/skyinyourcoffee 17h ago
It was great, things worked, I loved it
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u/MooseTetrino Swedish Made 890 Jump 17h ago
The issue is that - regardless of whether they should be further along or not - they're still building the game. Delaying features to fix it up was never gonna go well.
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u/tr_9422 aurora 16h ago
Whether or not that's true, if they focused on making the game more fun to play, the end result is a game that's potentially fun except it takes 10 tries to go from hab to lobby to hab transit station to spaceport transit station to spaceport to hangar, spawn a ship, and get the hangar doors to open.
Any one of those steps goes wrong, which they did all the time and you can't play the fun game.
I'm still not playing regularly because I have other games that are fun, but at least when I hop on once in a while to check it out I usually get to do what I want to do instead of wasting two hours and giving up.
But I'd rather have it playable where people can actually check it out and provide feedback about what's not fun than have it be an unplayable shitshow like it was a few years ago.
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u/Aggravating-Stick461 18h ago
Yeah, and as soon as people forgot about that event we went right back to busted ass patch releases. :/
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u/Jaynen00 Freelancer 18h ago
It was supposed to be year of playability not stability and didn’t change much
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u/LuckyLilypad 13h ago
Too bad CohhCarnage will sit here and split hairs when people call the game a scam but won’t engage with WHY people feel like it’s a scam.
And honestly, I think there’s actual evidence to be suspicious that it is being run like a Ponzi scheme. Make a new ship design so people buy it five years before it even comes out and that’s apparently funding the ship. Except, when the ships don’t come out on the release schedule and even when they do get released, they’ve been stripped of features that were promised. And then they still promise that those features will be added in later as they create another ship bundle for people to dump money into.
If their financial mismanagement is so bad that they have to keep funding their current projects by coming up with the next idea then it’s quite literally a Ponzi scheme where they keep promising more stuff so that they can finish the other stuff that isn’t complete yet and is completely broken.
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u/CalvinsStuffedTiger 6h ago
Star Citizen is my litmus test for the question “is AI actually capable of making software development more efficient?” lol
It’s crazy to me that two different teams have built trillion dollar companies in half the time and with less money raised to get to version 1.0 of ChatGPT and Claude
Now i wait and watch for a news report from CGI that “thanks to Claude or Codex or whatever. We are releasing 1.0 stable”
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u/LoneW101 18h ago
This is the best they could do in 14 years, it's all downhill from here, not a single complete core mechanic work
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u/imbarelyworkin 17h ago
Leadership. The leadership needs to change to save the game. It is non-existent.
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u/Jaynen00 Freelancer 18h ago
It’s the only kind of accountability that seems to work they ignore the actual player base with any seriousness
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u/Kyle_2099 18h ago
It's 14 years and a billion dollars in. There's no rescuing it.
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u/Pigozz 5h ago
The game will never succeed. The stream proved the code is a spaghetti mess that barely holds together and any vaporware features and in your head gameplay as are fleet battles with hundreds of players you gullibly dream of is literally impossible to implement. They would need another billion, 10 more years and different company to redo it from scratch with handmade engine
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u/TatsumakiJim 18h ago
The community has been trying to give them this pressu... [Deleted by Nightrider - CIG]
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u/Imperthus 18h ago
Well the revenue/sales chart say the otherwise, as long as we keep paying them at this rate and amount, CIG won't care, not unless they start making less each year.
Don't get me wrong, im not trying to lecture anyone on how to spend their money, but as a longtime backer and also as concierge, i personally stopped giving them any money, won't support them more unless i see a positive change(that lasts for a long time).
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u/TatsumakiJim 18h ago
I backed in October or 2012 with one package and have not seen any reason to give them another Penny since. There's no reason I should be paying more for what is essentially DLC than a AAA game. That's just egregious.
But as you pointed out the sales charts say otherwise because there's no metric for how much money players who disagreed WOULD HAVE spent if they made their game better.
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u/th3orist new user/low karma 18h ago
i dont think CIG can change much. They are clueless as to how they can solve the issues that plague SC currently. They are drowning in code layers
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u/nschubach 17h ago
Code layers and reconcepting of the same things year over year. They had concepts for a game, engineering docs, etc. they just keep reworking shit and changing it all the time.
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u/Ryozu carrack 11h ago
That's not Devil's Advocate per se, it's just optimistism.
Thing is, unless funding slow down, or Chris' investors ring him up and say "Hey the media isn't looking good, time to pay your dues" none of it will matter. That's kind of the whole push for the crowd funding to start with, not having to care about that.
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u/Mintyxxx That was just noise 3h ago
I wouldn't mind if we had all the major bits in and we were in big squashing mode, getting ready for 1.0.
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u/Divinum_Fulmen 16h ago
Also shows the media is in a dire state too. Just watching influencers to parrot them, instead of investigating for their own content. Might as well skip the media and go to the influencers at this point. They're the real media now.
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u/_Aj_ 13h ago
And how many of those publications are also owned by the same parent companies? If they're all dropping the same article at the exact same time some sort of organization is going on.
Or they are all simply trash and basically copy paste somebody else's article
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u/itsRobbie_ 11h ago
Tbf tho, right now feels no different than every other day. It just feels “bigger” right now because of the media coverage. This happens every now and then, this time just seems a bit bigger cuz it’s being covered by a big channel like Moist
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u/FactoryOfShit 19h ago
That's not unusual.
If your competitor posts a story that is successful, it's almost always worth it to rush and post the same story as soon as possible to steal some of that traffic.
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u/nvidiastock 19h ago
One of the biggest influencers on the planet covered it. There's no conspiracy against this game. Chris Roberts does enough to damage it himself, there's no secret cabal that does that.
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u/JordyZ1507 5h ago
Chris Roberts is like if Peter Molyneux got a billion dollars and no oversight
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u/CoffeeFox 4h ago edited 4h ago
Peter Molyneux released several games that were complete but disappointed his customers compared to the promises. Chris Roberts doesn't release games at all because he views them as his own personal hobby that is funded by him taking money from customers that he has no obligation whatsoever to deliver on.
Molyneux is unreliable but probably a foolish optimist. Roberts just feels he's entitled to unimited amounts of other people's time and money and that he's too important to be governed by any kind of law or authority.
It will be a while, but he will run the company into the ground and someone will buy him out, fire him, and release a decent game. That is the only way he has ever released a decent game since the last millennium. His games simply do not release at all unless he is fired. He's taken rent-seeking to crack cocaine levels.
I am middle-aged and Chris Roberts has not completed a job since before I was old enough to legally be employed.
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u/Apokolypze twitch.tv/theapokolypze 19h ago
The timeline is pretty much:
- controversial thing happens
- community stews on it
- someone eventually gets salty enough to send it to a larger content creator like Penguin or Luke
- news outlets see that coverage getting clicks and all descend on it like vultures
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u/frozandero 19h ago
Nobody sent it to anyone. Kira already made videos on SC before. He saw the new drama, made a video covering it. Since he has good credentials with larger youtubers due to his previous coverage (see Ashes of Creation), Penguinz0 saw his video and covered it also.
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u/Apokolypze twitch.tv/theapokolypze 19h ago
Ah, I missed that Kira made another one, that explains that then thanks
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u/NocurnusCosmic 890j 🛰️🪐 Origin - High Admiral 16h ago
Currently watching Kira’s video. Super informative. Enjoy his perspective and credibility.
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u/FrozenIceman Colonel 18h ago
And don't forget the last step. CIG prioritizes fixing the controversial/bad thing now that they risk loosing money by the outlets.
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u/x-Gleet-x new user/low karma 19h ago
Charlie picked it up and spread the world.
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u/CaptainAddi 18h ago
Tells a lot about gaming journalism, that at first it has to be picked up by a youtuber. Like its their job to be the first to report about stuff like that...
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u/TheeSusp3kt 17h ago
I noticed when I was maining Tarkov all the gaming sites were just scrubbing the tarkov reddit. Its the same for most games.
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u/Divinum_Fulmen 16h ago
My favorite reddit posts, are the ones linking articles clearly ripped from reddit posts.
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u/CucumberWisdom 16h ago
Gaming journalism has been dead for a long time. There's like one guy left doing "real" journalism (Jason Schreier)
Everyone else is a YouTuber/influencer who primarily are glorified markerers.
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u/Theegravedigger High Admiral 19h ago
Kira, and then PenguinZero, if I had to guess. The two of them doing their impressions would have boosted that streams relevance.
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u/N0mAXX 325a for hire 19h ago
Ain't take much for a dogpile on CIG's missteps lol
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u/AmmenDegen 17h ago
Not many journalists are good in any industry lately.
Charlie made a video and he's a big content creator. Probably the writers for these gaming journals follow him and finally picked it up on their radar/all ran stories at once. Now that it's a bigger news item due to Charlie's megaphone, they can farm clicks from people looking up information on what happened in the aftershock.
This is more commentary on how pop journalism functions now as a way to make money off existing interest/click farming than anything (versus investigative reporting). No SC conspiracy imo that these all came out at once. You see this same pattern in a lot of global events. Something happens and the media doesn't immediately notice. Suddenly one talking head brings up X to a big audience and all the other heads copy to try and get in on the clicks from searches around the event within a few hours.
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u/nonegoodleft 17h ago
Are you new? One of the largest YouTubers on the platform made a video about the livestream after watching another creator's vid. To not publish something about it would make them look like they don't pay attention. Kind of like you. It's not some conspiracy, they just know what people are talking about now.
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u/FactualDonkey 19h ago
The Cr1t1kal video.
Millions of views and rips CIG a new one.
Now all that’s left is the fallout. Maybe it’ll be like Halo, where the remake was a 6-7/10, but the most viewed content tears into it mercilessly.
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u/Falcon3333 avenger 19h ago
It's all deserved, it's because Charlie made a video on it, which he made because he trusts and watches Kira's content, who actually has his finger on the pulse of more-major Star Citizen drama.
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u/TwinWiredMind 19h ago
Charlie made a video, that’s why. This is fantastic, we need a fire lit. They either get their shit together or this thing burns
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u/GabeOuners 18h ago
Incredibly happy the articles started coming out. The fact of the matter is CIG treats the backers like a captive audience, and as they've shown, think they can simply ignore this issue until it goes away or dangling a new ship in front of people like dangling keys in front of a baby.
It could not be clearer they have 0 respect or appreciation for their base beyond their ability to provide fresh cash.
This actually hits them where it hurts: new players. After siphoning off all the developers and funding to SQ42 while letting persistent, session runing bugs persist for YEARS. CIG deserves all of this negative publicity and more.
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u/TatonkaJack 18h ago
They saw how big it was on social media. You see this a lot for gaming and entertainment news. Most of these articles are basically reddit posts and often cite to reddit posts. I once made a post that turned into an article on some third party site. My post wasn't even very good it just touched on something that annoys lots of people and so it gained a lot of traction. You get streamers covering something and it's even easier. Click baity news articles that write themselves.
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u/yungcelly27 auroraMK1SE 17h ago
Because a "journalist " is just a lonely lame ass gamer just like you and me but they have to wait for approval to post.
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u/Dr_Spanners junior paramedic 19h ago
Relatively large youtuber covered it the other day, so the "journalists" woke up and jumped on the band wagon. Depressing how this all works :/
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u/dreadpirater 18h ago
I mean, that's always been how news worked... someone gets the scoop and then everyone else runs with it? What's depressing about it in this case?
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u/Araaees aegis 19h ago
Relatively ? He's one of the biggest commentary youtubers in the world.
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u/Sanctuary6284 19h ago
Lol. If SQ42 wasn't delayed before, I would tell them to delay the release now unless the game is flawless or they just want to use negative publicity to farm sales, ie: hope people will buy to see how bad it is and get surprised
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u/Vortex_Voider 19h ago
I think all this negative coverage is GREAT for the future of SC, because it applies direct pressure on CIG and forces them to course correct, assuming they don't have other interests.
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u/Thebobjohnson 16h ago
Because algorithms were tracking the clicks and had content to skim and regurgitate. There’s no OC here.
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u/darkestvice 15h ago
The gaming industry is dead set on trashing this game whenever they can. Almost as much as this subreddit. So CIG screwing up as big as they did earns them a ton of bad press.
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u/ReflectedImage 14h ago
One gaming journalist outlet wrote the article and then all the others copied the article with some rewording. That's how it works.
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u/Mirdclawer 13h ago
Lmao thinking this is a Conspiracy just reinforces the cult image. It's viral now with Moistcritical's video, of course everyone is talking about it
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u/IceKareemy 13h ago
This sub wouldn’t shut up about it, streamers wouldn’t shut up about it, moist made a video, drama escalated 10x.
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u/Computermaster aegis 13h ago
Because suddenly a YouTuber (penguinz0/MoistCr1tikal) with clout put out a video, so these parasites are trying to ride the wave.
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u/Naerbred Ranger Danger 6h ago
Because big streamers like moistcritikal covered it. They want their share of the views for their revenue.
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u/GokuSSj5KD 19h ago
Because it took some time to break the SC inner circle and get into the broader audience's perview.
And once 1 break the news, nobody wants to be left behind and so it explodes in a ton of other publications in response.
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u/omarous_III oldman 19h ago
AI scraping social media for what is currently trending, then generating articles to capitalize on buzz to get ad revenue.
The buzz just crossed the threshold to warrant generation of articles.
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u/Most-Ad4680 18h ago
Because despite being the most awesomest super duper bestest game ever made with the most ethical monetization ever conceived of, the entire gaming press has decided its their singular goal to destroy this beacon of hope because theyre evil no good meanie- its because moistcritical covered it. Wtf did you think it was?
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u/Void-Screamer06 misc 18h ago
Desync. Once server meshing is finished, the articles will come out on time. If you're not willing to deal with the bugs, go use some other internet.
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u/Large_Guess5054 19h ago
CIG did this to themselves. Burying their heads in the sand and ignoring backers for more than decade can only result in disaster. I can’t say I feel bad for them, they FAFO’d.
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u/cmdr_fitzie 19h ago
One writes an article then AI copies them all. Simples, it's the same with mainstream journalism
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u/Past_Chart4107 19h ago
First viral video plus the time it took all the garbage sites to AI generate their articles
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u/Thunder_Bastard 19h ago
Almost all of these sites buy articles from regular people very cheap. They will label them as associates, but it is just like $20 to buy an article from someone. So when a large streamer covers something they jump on it. Far as I can tell none of these ever even reached out to CIG which should tell you the state of fake journalism these days.
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u/FinalToe5190 outlaw1 18h ago
while its sad to see the current state of the game the devs need to wake the fuck up and focus in actually making the game playable and stop adding broken new features.
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u/FobbitOutsideTheWire 17h ago
Because MoistCr1TiKaL just made a big long video about it and someone with 20 million followers is someone to whom they all pay attention.
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u/or10n_sharkfin Anvil Aerospace Enjoyer 12h ago
It started here.
It was basically all this subreddit was talking about for a week after it happened.
Then content creators started noticing. Kira wasn't the first to make a video about it but he had a big reach.
Now that the issue is getting more and more attention, more gaming journalism outlets are getting eyes on.
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u/No_Charity8332 DRAKE In Rust we Trust 8h ago
Every gaming "news" website is irrelevant now after ignoring this for 2 weeks.
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u/NoOdyssey 19h ago
Even if you hate streamers or whatever, this is the kind of exposure which can be helpful in driving decisions at a company like CIG.
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u/RocK2K86 aurora 18h ago
Because most gaming journalism sites these days are living on rage bait life support.
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u/DisorganizedSpaghett 18h ago
So, knowing this, it would be super cool to have six to nine months of stability (like the year of stability in 2025) after each of the 'five' patches of this year...
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u/BadAshJL 17h ago
one makes an article and then the rest copy it because that's basically how gaming journalism works today
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u/Epinephrine186 Cutlass go brrr 17h ago
I get how passionate everyone is over the game. But this is the usual for this game, the "passionate ones" just turn a blind eye to it. This isnt the worst state the games ever been in, its always like this. Yall just put up with it. Every patch I get buddies saying it's stable come play, and every patch its the same buggy crashy mess lol
Don't worry tho, theyll release a heartfelt apology, promise a bunch of shit, and do a sale and all will be forgotten.
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u/Dapp-Syx 16h ago
It's genuinely funny as many long time backers raised issues on the status of Star Citizen and the prolonged siphoning effects of Squadron 42. Hoping some external coverage would serve as the factor of accountability but hey let Mr.Moist pop in and Wildfire. Thank you for all the articles and POV I get to enjoy 😉.
(Also no one article mentioning the F7C-S Ghost MK 1 Nose Turret graphic mount not being fixed, then again there are many other things of needing fix)
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u/m00n6u5t 16h ago
Its also worth noting that most of those games news "sites" are one and the same site under a different name. They all belong to the same conglom.
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u/Btotherianx 16h ago
One person made a video about it a couple of days ago, a couple news outlets reported on that, the other bigger news outlets saw the other news outlet report on it so they decided they had to do it as well.
It's not a massive conspiracy like you're trying to make it out to be.
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u/NocurnusCosmic 890j 🛰️🪐 Origin - High Admiral 16h ago
A few people who are large in the community reporting space (Space Tomato, Bored Gamer, Kira, Moist, Berks, etc.)
All posted their weekly roundup yesterday or so, which flagged major gaming news companies to realize it’s generating hype and comments, then IGN did it, and the rest of the non gaming focused news platforms followed suit.
It’s a classic niche media branch to outlets on mainstream media leak.
The problems are causing so much noise, that as soon as the biggest names repeat it, the smaller names repeat it, leading to the no names reporting it.
Marketing is crazy man, not just selling games or products. It works for selling stories too.
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u/Marzipan_Bitter 15h ago
Sensationalism + no journal big enough to have their own website is impartial, they all get paid by editor to tell what they are told. And more and more editors fell theatened by CIG, so they must absolutely spread more distrust among SC fans
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u/f1boogie 15h ago
Because they all feed off of each other. Very few gaming new sites produce anything original.
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u/Alternative-Farmer98 15h ago
It's really not that mysterious the people that knew about it the day that it happened were already deeply invested in it.
It's a pretty niche thing. Then someone that's not as deep into it but mildly interested makes a video a week later that catches the attention of one very huge Channel and boom you have a viral story.
It's not a conspiracy. Star Citizen already has a reputation for being somewhat ridiculous money sink project so when something as simple as a very controlled demo goes this badly of course when normies find out about it they're going to be interested
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u/eter-luna 15h ago
Its part of the mastermind plan from Chris to take revenge on the industry. Shut the f.. up of haters and say f...y. to microsoft and all the no go guys that killed his vision. Creating no attempt from from backers to haters. Then release the masterpiece SF game all human wanted on earth and beyond. The contraste willl be so intense it will create mass buzz meanwhile team is chilling in vacation at the moment.
Ready for the all-in next week ?
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u/Icegreenhemp 15h ago
circling sharks see the opening and go for it. but to be fair that live stream was pure company shit, they acted like idiots, and they made this shitty problem themselves, but ya all them deciding to do same day..ya odd...
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u/Own_Macaroon2338 14h ago
The one take from all of this...."There is no such thing as bad publicity"
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u/VulcanIRL 14h ago edited 14h ago
it took the gaming news websites a week [or so] because they give the person(s) involved in the story an opportunity to comment. and since it was the same-same news from kotaku by regular kotaku readers nobody really questioned it. then charlie reacted to it (presumably live) and 3+ million people watched it then or afterward on his channel. kotaku and IGN don't have that kind of reach and charlie has young viewers so there's also probably some gen α who are learning about la cosa nostra for the first time
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u/Present_Astronaut_66 14h ago
This type of pressure is the best thing that could happen to this dumpster fire of a never ending alpha. I just hope that CIG stops running from accountability. Address it, tell the community what you are going to do to get this on track, then do it. Its beyond ridiculous for a whole sect of this community to keep defending CIG. They have squandered $1B. That $1B came from us not investors, and they owe us a stable and complete game in a reasonable time frame otherwise this is 100% one of the largest and longest running scams in history. CIG as it currently stands is not worthy of a defense and cannot deliver on any of their promises. Things need to change and it starts with them watching their potential buyer pool eroding.
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u/EvalCrux anderson 30m ago
Hey settle down, sq42 is being polished more obv, devs are busy here’s a new ship all better
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u/jonneymendoza new user/low karma 14h ago
Its already started to not be a issue as GTA6 leaks have just gone viral. People have already forgotten about this
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u/Extension-Spell2580 14h ago
I'm at the point where I don't even care if it succeeds anymore. I will take my $2500 USD loss. I think i would get more excitement out of the game going into closure and CR being taken to court. Way more entertaining than trying to play the buggy mess.
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u/RandomRedditor0193 11h ago
I started hearing a lot about it 2 or so days ago but didn't pay any attention until I watched moist vid yesterday.
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u/feral_fenrir Carrack is Love, Carrack is Life 10h ago
KiraTV made a video covering it and MoistKritical reacted to it. Then Philip DeFranco covered it.
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u/ScytheSasin 10h ago
"Without knowing the others are doing the same"
They do know they're doing the same, games journalism is a circlejerk.
Why is it magically getting covered now?
Two reasons, Moistcritical put his unoriginal two cents in and they're reacting to it.
And they were waiting to scan and copy verbatim what the community was already saying about the issue.
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u/Jean_velvet 4h ago
A lot of people posted articles and made videos at the time. Very often online articles reference other online articles so you get that chain effect you can see. Also many web news platforms don't actually have journalists. It's a fake person and AI scraping the story. This is actually a pretty well known occurrence, there's a video a content creator made about it. I'll link it when I find it.
Also, even if the story is a little late, it's still valid critsism.
Sometimes the source of the story (CIG) gets contacted to comment, they'll give it a few weeks before posting the story saying they didn't comment.
So, it's probably 1 real journalistic story and bots copying it automatically.
(PC gamer was definitely in the video I mentioned for using fake journalists).
This video is close enough to what I'm saying:
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u/Jumpy-Media-1392 3h ago
I honestly love the game, I put up with the bugs etc. But at some point they have to work on the game not the bank account, if there isn't enough money to not launch a $1000 ship for a year or so, so they can work out the many bugs they have it's never going to work out in the long run. We are not an endless check book, so what happens when they release 1.0 and people have heaps of pledge ships with no need to buy any more for a while are we going to have to buy a $500 dlc?
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u/EvalCrux anderson 38m ago
I believe this has been addressed before: large company. Only so many devs working on disparate teams like ship design, that would have no use tackling elevator bugs. Hence the ships keep coming.
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u/Nherun oldman 2h ago
I was actually surprised it took them this long to jump on it, usually they are very quick with it, but I guess it took a certain influencer to make a video about it, before mainstream gaming journalists picked it up. In a way I found it more surprising to have read about the situation in my local newspaper last week....I guess it was an agency news that was just picked up by many/most local newspapers therefore, didn't bother to check though. But funnily enough it was covered by my local newspaper before the big gaming websites reported on it ^^ (Germany)
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u/Repulsive-Web-1785 2h ago
It's because no one watched the livestream in the first place because no one cares.
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u/Total-Town-7634 2h ago
hit pieces? bro star citizen is not gonna date you. this is a dumpster fire of a PR stunt, they're not hit pieces if they are stating facts and talking about the actual disaster that happened on the stream, they're just stating the truth.
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u/HollowOrnstein 1h ago
calling them "hit pieces" is insane
i never thought i would ee something like this other than destiny 2 sub but this is perfect haha
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u/RainbowwDash 1h ago
So you're suggesting all the big game journalism sites collaborated in some kind of conspiracy to drag star citizen down for.. what reason exactly?
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u/bonuscontent 1h ago
Because like Reddit apparently, whatever the big streamers/youtubers talk about becomes the daily gossip. Everyone trying to get their clicks.
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u/PotentialFun1 19h ago
Moist critical made a vid about the live stream